Insurance to ensure males

Jewels

Tilts at Tables
How many seeds would I need to germinate in order to ensure a male?
50/50
( it is a boy, or it is a girl. I understand there are other factors, but if I ignore them: they will go away)
It is straight math.
You think I would know this, off the cuff.
However, here is a handy chart.
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Shows only three times in a hundred, would all six plants be female.

Generalizing, you would need a couple of dozen sprouts to guarantee that you have a few males to look at.

I am planning a seed run and I just convinced myself to plant the whole pack.
 

Sugar Pops420

Poppin’ Beans
How many seeds would I need to germinate in order to ensure a male?
50/50
( it is a boy, or it is a girl. I understand there are other factors, but if I ignore them: they will go away)
It is straight math.
You think I would know this, off the cuff.
However, here is a handy chart.
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Shows only three times in a hundred, would all six plants be female.

Generalizing, you would need a couple of dozen sprouts to guarantee that you have a few males to look at.

I am planning a seed run and I just convinced myself to plant the whole pack.
Maybe it’s just “bro science” but the old guys used to claim colder temps would produce more female to male seeds.
Of course you’d still get both sexes, just different percentiles due to environment.
Who knows, maybe there is something to it. I never paid it any attention until now really, but it might be worth looking into!

As for the seeds you have, make like they’re panties and drop them!??
 

Skunky Dunk Farms

Cannabinoid Receptor
How many seeds would I need to germinate in order to ensure a male?
50/50
( it is a boy, or it is a girl. I understand there are other factors, but if I ignore them: they will go away)
It is straight math.
You think I would know this, off the cuff.
However, here is a handy chart.
View attachment 144032

Shows only three times in a hundred, would all six plants be female.

Generalizing, you would need a couple of dozen sprouts to guarantee that you have a few males to look at.

I am planning a seed run and I just convinced myself to plant the whole pack.
Jewels, just act like ya don't want any seeds and you'll end up with 75% males.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
Maybe it’s just “bro science” but the old guys used to claim colder temps would produce more female to male seeds.
Of course you’d still get both sexes, just different percentiles due to environment.
Who knows, maybe there is something to it. I never paid it any attention until now really, but it might be worth looking into!

As for the seeds you have, make like they’re panties and drop them!??
My bro told me high temps, restrict the tap root and use blue light.

I was like 4/17 or something under a more blue light and 8/15 under a more red light this run.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
Staff member
Moderator
I've been working under the assumption that the more ideal conditions are, the more likely you are to get females.

Here's my logic: the better the conditions, the greater chance of growing to completion. If conditions are less ideal, the plant's response is to lean toward a male expression since a male has a chance to finish more quickly and still do its job, IE release pollen.
I haven't done any experimentation to identify specific trigger conditions, but as I've gotten better at growing I definitely see a smaller proportion of males.
 
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OldG

Elite Hobbyist
Seeds are the sex they are. Cannabis can intersex itself to produce offspring so there is no reason to be like an alligator egg.

I am also of the opinion it would be incredibly difficult to be sure a particular strain is more likely male or female.

Odds can go crazy all the time... but if 2 people ran 3 packs each and they were all male....pretty rare.

13 out of 13 is a .001 % chance :D

I am like a gambler with an addiction...I only count the winners....

For the record my most EXTREME was 10 out of 11 godbud F3s.

Worst male to fems was 8 male 2 fems from a pack. Then i just counted fems after that really.

I think if you want to really be sure you are getting a stud do 20 seeds.....pick the best and flower the rest.
 
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OldG

Elite Hobbyist
I can make a male out of a female and vice versa by blocking certain pathway, to me that shows it isn't strictly genetic.
When it is a plant you are playing with what is genetically normal anyway. Cannabis can naturally reproduce itself.
If the conditions are bad...stressful...hot...dry...whatever.... Chances of our survival are poor, we will exist if we do not KICK UP THE POLLEN on this female (says the natural trigger within the plant...i talk to dogs too).

That is not related to the seed.

The seed is the seed. Male or Female within that seed...not subject to change

Great question for Dr Buckabee though aint it :D
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
After this early black friday doobie.... Do light meters work different in space?
Maybe, Which space?

Nah, they don't change their operating principles just like the genetics of the plant won't change without external influence.

Hope you don't take my opinion on Dr. B to hart, has no reflection on you.
 

OldG

Elite Hobbyist
Maybe, Which space?

Nah, they don't change their operating principles just like the genetics of the plant won't change without external influence.

Hope you don't take my opinion on Dr. B to hart, has no reflection on you.
never ever amigo.. i thought it was rather funny.

perhaps a botanist that is not a light schill would work better :D lol

Oh this is phenos man... :D water off ducks daily.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
Something happens to the plant at differentiation of that I am convinced. Perhaps these old stoner myths are only lightly based in reality.

The bias of male/female in a positive or negative sense seems to proliferate in our hobby, I am trying to keep an open mind, cis or trans does it really matter?
 

OldG

Elite Hobbyist
Something happens to the plant at differentiation of that I am convinced. Perhaps these old stoner myths are only lightly based in reality.

The bias of male/female in a positive or negative sense seems to proliferate in our hobby, I am trying to keep an open mind, cis or trans does it really matter?
seriously we need bill nye or something....2 more doobs and i will search...or forget where my marker is to write down wtf that plant is....

I am not bitching...best retirement EVER...freedom 52 baby
 
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