Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
Those sound mighty inticing
"The pHenohunter Community Preservation Project"
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Thanks for the clarification! I totally read that wrong ! I blame the dab. Anyways I will reach out to you shortly @woodhippy !
Keif Lint
In Bloom
Sweet I'll have a look at what's there and get back to you.
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
Ok boys and gals, i have some questions.
My beans im fixin to start in the Skunk #1 preservation thread are from what ive gathered are a 3rd generation open pollinated group.
Original to Todd from Sam.
Todd open pollinated in 80's.
Todd open pollinated in the 2000's.
Todd open pollinated last year.
Would these be f3 as they stand?
F3 IBL?
Or how does that correlate to generations from original cross?
My beans im fixin to start in the Skunk #1 preservation thread are from what ive gathered are a 3rd generation open pollinated group.
Original to Todd from Sam.
Todd open pollinated in 80's.
Todd open pollinated in the 2000's.
Todd open pollinated last year.
Would these be f3 as they stand?
F3 IBL?
Or how does that correlate to generations from original cross?
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Capt's Farm
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No you didn't.
I got the same thing/impressing from the read..
I'll take a few.. I'll get my azz back up and running for this..
I have some 70 and 80 beans form Romona Ca. In house that I'm haven't talked about.. I'll be running late this yr...
All this talk about this really has me wanting to get going again..
Capt's Farm
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That would be a f3 if he took the beans form the cross and recross them..
Being a plant from 80 was crossed then those beans were used on the next cross..
If he is running the beans form the 80 again in 2000 then that would only be a f2's
Does that make sense to you sir
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I guess we will see when they grow!
See below is an example that an IBL is a strain classified by producing stabile, consistent offspring with a dominate phenotype.
Just something I read at Maximum Yield when wondering:
www.maximumyield.com
Breeders also frequently use the term true breed to denote certain strains that will produce single specific traits over and over again through the generations.
Usually, breeders will focus on dominant traits in the parent plants that produce in a stable fashion. In order to obtain a true breed strain, the parent plants cannot have unpredictable traits. Parent plants with predictable traits will produce offspring that feature those traits and will pass them on to future generations.
Through the manipulation of genes via selective breeding, a true breed strain can be created and maintained.
With a true breed strain, the desirable genes will repeat themselves generation after generation to achieve ultimate predictability so that a grower or user does not have to guess or wonder at what traits the cannabis plant strain will have or not have.
With a true breed strain, each generation of the plant will retain the exact same dominant genes to produce a wonderfully predictable offspring.
This definition was written in the context of Cannabis
See below is an example that an IBL is a strain classified by producing stabile, consistent offspring with a dominate phenotype.
Just something I read at Maximum Yield when wondering:
Goodbye from Maximum Yield
In print and online, Maximum Yield is your source for cannabis and cultivation knowledge, with informative grow articles and tips to enhance your life with mmj.
www.maximumyield.com
Definition - What does True Breed (IBL) mean?
A true breed strain (also known as IBL) of cannabis will produce stable, consistent offspring off a single dominant phenotype. Normally, true breed strains are found among landraces and some traditional cultivars.Breeders also frequently use the term true breed to denote certain strains that will produce single specific traits over and over again through the generations.
Usually, breeders will focus on dominant traits in the parent plants that produce in a stable fashion. In order to obtain a true breed strain, the parent plants cannot have unpredictable traits. Parent plants with predictable traits will produce offspring that feature those traits and will pass them on to future generations.
MaximumYield explains True Breed (IBL)
Ultimately, the goal to create a true breed strain is achieved through selective parental and offspring breeding over numerous generations until the dominate traits stabilize. With a true breed strain, the plants will predictably reproduce the same desirable traits generation after generation with very little variance.Through the manipulation of genes via selective breeding, a true breed strain can be created and maintained.
With a true breed strain, the desirable genes will repeat themselves generation after generation to achieve ultimate predictability so that a grower or user does not have to guess or wonder at what traits the cannabis plant strain will have or not have.
With a true breed strain, each generation of the plant will retain the exact same dominant genes to produce a wonderfully predictable offspring.
This definition was written in the context of Cannabis
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
And they were crossed an additional time last year.
Capt's Farm
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By the way I'm taking it Sd
I would say yes to a f3's
I read and take it that he took beans form the 80's
Made f2's in the 2000
Then took those beans and made a f3's last yr...
Buck5050
Underground Chucker
I think the above image shows a decent representation of the Filial Generations (F1, F2, F3, etc.)
An interesting tidbit that it shows, as well, is how an F2 male pollinated two different females and created two separate lines, worked a couple of generations, and then were recombined. My assumption is that this would be a way to eliminate unwanted traits.
An interesting tidbit that it shows, as well, is how an F2 male pollinated two different females and created two separate lines, worked a couple of generations, and then were recombined. My assumption is that this would be a way to eliminate unwanted traits.
Capt's Farm
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Thanks for putting that up
Someone with some pull around here should start a tread about crossing and drop that chart in there...
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
Ok, and these are a "stable hybid".
Where does that play in?
Where does that play in?
GthaEnigma
Canna-Arborist
This is the same methodology tony green used to make his GG#4 recombinate inbred line.
Buck5050
Underground Chucker
I'm familiar with TonyG's line. I hold a pack of his Gorilla Bubble Bx4 in my vault. The 2 lines combining back into one are similar, no doubt.
I think Tony used a 6th generation GorillaBubble and GG4 IBL from Mycos (9 generations). Very cool project.
I feel like origin stories are often written by lawyers. Not neccesarily gg4 but ones like the AITR backstory? Wasn't it like 90 when med came legal in california? CO was soon after iirc.
Edit - no lawyer but seems like lits of statutes of limitation are on the decade and 15 year marks....
Why the big gap in the story line? They sat in cold storage for a decade +? Was there a flaw expresses somewhere on another surpressed timeline?
Anyway - its not anyones fault I have an unhealthy suspicion on people in general, I try to only pass jugment on those I interact directly with and even there I am working to be a better more trusting person. Or that legal jagon basically dictates I can't publicy to claim to do an open pollenation with 137 plants (within logisitcal reason) because legally I am limited to 6.
Edit - no lawyer but seems like lits of statutes of limitation are on the decade and 15 year marks....
Why the big gap in the story line? They sat in cold storage for a decade +? Was there a flaw expresses somewhere on another surpressed timeline?
Anyway - its not anyones fault I have an unhealthy suspicion on people in general, I try to only pass jugment on those I interact directly with and even there I am working to be a better more trusting person. Or that legal jagon basically dictates I can't publicy to claim to do an open pollenation with 137 plants (within logisitcal reason) because legally I am limited to 6.
J. James
In Bloom
American Big Bud (F6) is Afghani X Skunk #1
This line was given to my father in 86' from a buddie of his that was living & growing in Jacksonville, FL.
I was told that it was the Dutch who mixed it with Northern Lights and the result was a sweeter more humidity tolerant strain but overall a less resinous plant and that happened in the early 90's.
For this plant to give you the legendary colas its known for you need to drop your humidity below 40% by the second week of flower. Tie or double scrog the plant to support the weight and super crop the bottom half of the plant so you can get airflow up threw the canopy. Even though she is a huge yielding plant and sensitive to humidity, she is not demanding of nutrients and easy to overfeed. If you loose your lower fan leaves early in flower your yield will suffer. This is one strain I recommend minimal defoliation and really your goal should be to keep as many fan leaves as you can as they will be used as backup storage when the plant bulks up the last 3 weeks of flower. She flowers in 7 - 9 weeks and is easy to clone.
I grew this strain exclusively for 6 years, There are a number of phenotypes to be found from dank skunk to sweet candy. The smoke is thick and deep yet rich and smooth.
This line was given to my father in 86' from a buddie of his that was living & growing in Jacksonville, FL.
I was told that it was the Dutch who mixed it with Northern Lights and the result was a sweeter more humidity tolerant strain but overall a less resinous plant and that happened in the early 90's.
For this plant to give you the legendary colas its known for you need to drop your humidity below 40% by the second week of flower. Tie or double scrog the plant to support the weight and super crop the bottom half of the plant so you can get airflow up threw the canopy. Even though she is a huge yielding plant and sensitive to humidity, she is not demanding of nutrients and easy to overfeed. If you loose your lower fan leaves early in flower your yield will suffer. This is one strain I recommend minimal defoliation and really your goal should be to keep as many fan leaves as you can as they will be used as backup storage when the plant bulks up the last 3 weeks of flower. She flowers in 7 - 9 weeks and is easy to clone.
I grew this strain exclusively for 6 years, There are a number of phenotypes to be found from dank skunk to sweet candy. The smoke is thick and deep yet rich and smooth.
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
That sure sounds alot like a skunk #1 growth pattern for sure, ive grown for many years. Yes defoliation does hurt yields.
This actualy sounds like something ide enjoy growing.
