A bug killer that stops everything !

horribleherk

home grown
I've got as near as I can tell some sort of mites in one of my tents they leave webs & eggs similar to spider mites but after going over the plant cant find a living bug one what would stop this that is available at the local hydro shop I'm wanting something that kills a variety of stuff here is pics of the damage I want to kill whatever it is before it gets in my other tent the plant has been lagging for awhile but these just popped up in the last few days 20210130_130918.jpg20210130_130840.jpg20210130_130534.jpg20210130_130041.jpg20210130_130045.jpg20210130_130201.jpg
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
first of all, do you have a scope? Figure out what specific species that mite could be. my guess it’s two spot

Not bashing on you, Im only writing cause I want to help you!what's your humidity in your room , for example two spot don’t like higher humidity , two spot loves dry and hotter the better Inless extreme heat .thing about mites if you see that thick and big ol webs, it means prolly is all over ur tent . i would suggest being clean as much as u can and use a three-5 stage prevention and knockout . dont ever rely on one product or think there is such. That’s hyped bs and no wonder why it shows even the most toxic products for pest arent showing their efficient rwtio every year farmers can freely spray and not follow IPM rotaton.

usb scopes are cheap and a great IPM tool and harvest Analysis for knowing when to be ready:
Example :
Amazon product

you have a fairly big population and you need to act fast, my solution once you know what family or what mite it is it’s for example broad mites or russets vs regular mites/two spot or a completely differnet family . You prolly can go down the “general mites/two spots” region of applying and what kind of plan you should do. If you can get a usb scope that can look at it 1x-1000x than you can take a picture of a infected leaf and if you can’t verify yourself. Ask a bug wholesaler , I bet they can telll ya if you can’t or us. They won’t lie to you and if it’s a bug company they def know and can explain you the general tip to win the battle with the mites.

best bug company + IPM , they are great at what they do and supply, I’ve asked what pest I had many times and they are on top of their stuff. They don’t care about emails cause im sure they want your business if you got issues.

3 day hatch mites /general based mites or two spot , you need to apply a knockout than spray a rotation at least 3-5 times. if past 2-4th week of bloom you are limited vs oil based snd sulphur , i wouldn’t suggest certain things but bioco trolls do work and cleaninless of prevention and cleaning of grow room. What I suggest is wear gloves, pinch off all the mites web and place the webs or leafs in a tout or w/e ur willing to wash throughly To guratee your mites are out of your room , at least by lowering their main mass.and after every grbabing of the webs, inbetween hen you grab a Webb spray your hands with iso or hand sanitizer .
before u have any normal products here’s a quick knockout but it def won’t solve ur issue 100% if you have h202 and have concentration, make it 5% h202 and that will def piss the spider mites snd many pest off. If you can go to a hydro store cause you need a knockout ,

if it was me for IPM plan in the future and to reduce and make your harvest work. Biocontrols at least some hydro stores may have what I listed ( cannabis labeled at hydro stores cost more to, so that’s why I get veggies version, same connection and way cheaper ) a lot don’t and that’s so sad. I suggest getting all these products listed below online and get on it. Good thing is i do finally see biocontrols like the ones listed at many hydro stores vs none. if your going that route you could even call em before traveling .

trying to get this as most successful but also the most easy method snd safe . with all these good companies now no reason to apply dangerous miticides

i suggest buying for your knockout green cleaner or loast coast plant therapy (apply that first time and every 4th rotate of IPM spray ) (apply at highest rate and 3 hours+ hours before lights or right after lights on for all foliar s ) than every 3 days ( or adjust date of applications based on pest) to a impossible resistant biocontrol and it’s cheaper per gallon so no reason to apply only knockout :for biocontrol I would do Grandevo and pfr-97 ( if you can only afford one get Grandevo ) than every 3 days apply venerate xc ( biocontrols best benefit is they can’t become resistant vs traditional IPM/pesticides , reason why you switch your biocontrols is because just like everything, it’s attracted to terps aka the fungi (Grandevo /pfr-97/ venerate xc) and like everything sometimes get bored and wants other things if available . trick em and they never can conquer or become bored And that fungi will kill em, make em not reproduce as quickly and a zombie or the knockout it dies them to death and kills the eggs.

the other benefit of all products will be effective towards broad, russets and general spider mites like two spot . Key is knowing their egg hatch cycle ;)

knockout:

biocontrols :


key with foliars is you must have 100% coverage on the leafs and underneath and I suggest a setting agent like yucca Inless the products does not list a built in one (like plant therapy and greencleaner both do)

too many people look at prices as mass or the bottle size, it’s better to do math of the benefit + shelf life + broad range prevention + cost per gallon + any cons of application on plant or stress & dangers to the end result of plants and safety to growers and consumer . Many quarts or gallons of pesticides are cheap but per gallon they suck and what they do isn’t efficient or a stress . I’m all game for safe and being big ag applications vs overpriced unicorn piss that claims it can kill everything.

Key to having a succeed in the future is to always clean your room every 7-14 days, never track in your room. when you go to grow shops , always bag your clothes you wore or put in the washer ASAP and dont let what other people at a store or misc get you contaminated. Next a good policy is having “grow room dedicated “ meaning have those clothes for every 1-3 days of grow room use . take a quick water only wash down so you aren’t bring in anything. and Then have dedicated shoes and coveralls ( once u start wearing cover all’s you won’t go back my guess cause when u start seeing slll the grossness from working snd mixing frets. Not worth perm damaging your clothes and asking for cross contamination)

best cleaning tool is physan 20, it works great for Rez, tools, walls, floood tables , floors ( preety much anything u don’t wanna kill your bennnies , so if I’m Rez just rinse after 15 minutes of letting it sit on the surfaces to 100% clean) to protect anything you don’t have bennies just spray and don’t walk on it for 15 min minimum so you can get a 14 day protection from many virus and mold based. Cheap and do,paradigm to bleach it kicks it ass cause bleach can’t defend besides 25 minutes max vs physan 20 it can do it better for 14 days if not removed with water .
just apply to anything you want sterilized and when you do weekly cleaning and inbetween harvest as a good IPM and fungi/virusicide




 
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Evergreen

Showmethelowers
I've got as near as I can tell some sort of mites in one of my tents they leave webs & eggs similar to spider mites but after going over the plant cant find a living bug one what would stop this that is available at the local hydro shop I'm wanting something that kills a variety of stuff here is pics of the damage I want to kill whatever it is before it gets in my other tent the plant has been lagging for awhile but these just popped up in the last few days View attachment 50869View attachment 50870View attachment 50871View attachment 50872View attachment 50873View attachment 50874
Do you see all the dots on the webs? Those are living mites. There is no way that happened over a few days they have been there. I would toss everything. Bleach everything. Clean like hell and throw some bug bombs in every 2 days for a week. And just start over.

follow the above advice as a preventive. They came from somewhere though, they could live in your back yard naturally or you brought them in on a houseplant or clone.
 

Frimpong

🔥Freak.genetics🔥
first of all, do you have a scope? Figure out what specific species that mite could be. my guess it’s two spot

Not bashing on you, Im only writing cause I want to help you!what's your humidity in your room , for example two spot don’t like higher humidity , two spot loves dry and hotter the better Inless extreme heat .thing about mites if you see that thick and big ol webs, it means prolly is all over ur tent . i would suggest being clean as much as u can and use a three-5 stage prevention and knockout . dont ever rely on one product or think there is such. That’s hyped bs and no wonder why it shows even the most toxic products for pest arent showing their efficient rwtio every year farmers can freely spray and not follow IPM rotaton.

usb scopes are cheap and a great IPM tool and harvest Analysis for knowing when to be ready:
Example :
Amazon product

you have a fairly big population and you need to act fast, my solution once you know what family or what mite it is it’s for example broad mites or russets vs regular mites/two spot or a completely differnet family . You prolly can go down the “general mites/two spots” region of applying and what kind of plan you should do. If you can get a usb scope that can look at it 1x-1000x than you can take a picture of a infected leaf and if you can’t verify yourself. Ask a bug wholesaler , I bet they can telll ya if you can’t or us. They won’t lie to you and if it’s a bug company they def know and can explain you the general tip to win the battle with the mites.

best bug company + IPM , they are great at what they do and supply, I’ve asked what pest I had many times and they are on top of their stuff. They don’t care about emails cause im sure they want your business if you got issues.

3 day hatch mites /general based mites or two spot , you need to apply a knockout than spray a rotation at least 3-5 times. if past 2-4th week of bloom you are limited vs oil based snd sulphur , i wouldn’t suggest certain things but bioco trolls do work and cleaninless of prevention and cleaning of grow room. What I suggest is wear gloves, pinch off all the mites web and place the webs or leafs in a tout or w/e ur willing to wash throughly To guratee your mites are out of your room , at least by lowering their main mass.and after every grbabing of the webs, inbetween hen you grab a Webb spray your hands with iso or hand sanitizer .
before u have any normal products here’s a quick knockout but it def won’t solve ur issue 100% if you have h202 and have concentration, make it 5% h202 and that will def piss the spider mites snd many pest off. If you can go to a hydro store cause you need a knockout ,

if it was me for IPM plan in the future and to reduce and make your harvest work. Biocontrols at least some hydro stores may have what I listed ( cannabis labeled at hydro stores cost more to, so that’s why I get veggies version, same connection and way cheaper ) a lot don’t and that’s so sad. I suggest getting all these products listed below online and get on it. Good thing is i do finally see biocontrols like the ones listed at many hydro stores vs none. if your going that route you could even call em before traveling .

trying to get this as most successful but also the most easy method snd safe . with all these good companies now no reason to apply dangerous miticides

i suggest buying for your knockout green cleaner or loast coast plant therapy (apply that first time and every 4th rotate of IPM spray ) (apply at highest rate and 3 hours+ hours before lights or right after lights on for all foliar s ) than every 3 days ( or adjust date of applications based on pest) to a impossible resistant biocontrol and it’s cheaper per gallon so no reason to apply only knockout :for biocontrol I would do Grandevo and pfr-97 ( if you can only afford one get Grandevo ) than every 3 days apply venerate xc ( biocontrols best benefit is they can’t become resistant vs traditional IPM/pesticides , reason why you switch your biocontrols is because just like everything, it’s attracted to terps aka the fungi (Grandevo /pfr-97/ venerate xc) and like everything sometimes get bored and wants other things if available . trick em and they never can conquer or become bored And that fungi will kill em, make em not reproduce as quickly and a zombie or the knockout it dies them to death and kills the eggs.

the other benefit of all products will be effective towards broad, russets and general spider mites like two spot . Key is knowing their egg hatch cycle ;)

knockout:

biocontrols :


key with foliars is you must have 100% coverage on the leafs and underneath and I suggest a setting agent like yucca Inless the products does not list a built in one (like plant therapy and greencleaner both do)

too many people look at prices as mass or the bottle size, it’s better to do math of the benefit + shelf life + broad range prevention + cost per gallon + any cons of application on plant or stress & dangers to the end result of plants and safety to growers and consumer . Many quarts or gallons of pesticides are cheap but per gallon they suck and what they do isn’t efficient or a stress . I’m all game for safe and being big ag applications vs overpriced unicorn piss that claims it can kill everything.

Key to having a succeed in the future is to always clean your room every 7-14 days, never track in your room. when you go to grow shops , always bag your clothes you wore or put in the washer ASAP and dont let what other people at a store or misc get you contaminated. Next a good policy is having “grow room dedicated “ meaning have those clothes for every 1-3 days of grow room use . take a quick water only wash down so you aren’t bring in anything. and Then have dedicated shoes and coveralls ( once u start wearing cover all’s you won’t go back my guess cause when u start seeing slll the grossness from working snd mixing frets. Not worth perm damaging your clothes and asking for cross contamination)

best cleaning tool is physan 20, it works great for Rez, tools, walls, floood tables , floors ( preety much anything u don’t wanna kill your bennnies , so if I’m Rez just rinse after 15 minutes of letting it sit on the surfaces to 100% clean) to protect anything you don’t have bennies just spray and don’t walk on it for 15 min minimum so you can get a 14 day protection from many virus and mold based. Cheap and do,paradigm to bleach it kicks it ass cause bleach can’t defend besides 25 minutes max vs physan 20 it can do it better for 14 days if not removed with water .
just apply to anything you want sterilized and when you do weekly cleaning and inbetween harvest as a good IPM and fungi/virusicide




I've had experience with both the physan 2o and green cleaner . Great products 👍
 

horribleherk

home grown
Do you see all the dots on the webs? Those are living mites. There is no way that happened over a few days they have been there. I would toss everything. Bleach everything. Clean like hell and throw some bug bombs in every 2 days for a week. And just start over.

follow the above advice as a preventive. They came from somewhere though, they could live in your back yard naturally or you brought them in on a houseplant or clone.
I've ran nothing but seeds for 2 years they had to of came from outside when I lived in the San Joaquin valley I used to get spider mites often but have been here 5 yrs & this is the first time & this is a different variety I've not seen before I've gotta kill them , no way around it
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
Those orange little things are the mites , some mites move quicker and intill killed they will have a orgy and such your leaves to death

I gave ya good tips on how to achieve your harvest . Take it or leave it , it’s all on you now
 
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horribleherk

home grown
My thanks for all you people & taking the time to give me some input upon following up on the videos on the matter I made the mistake of misdiagnosis confusing the yellow leaves as N deficiency all the while they're gaining momentum well it came around full circle & bit me in the ass but if shit dong go wrong I don't seem to learn tomorrow I'm picking up blondie sulphur as this IS in both tents the videos I've watched & their narrators shed a whole different perspective on things
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
so ur example is trying to explain I suggested dangerous pesticides? I went up and beyond and explained some of the safest and effective biocontrol and safest pesticides out there , that works in broad range of pests.

why be a ass and add fake comedy and it’s like the govt making policies of no pesticides ? No logical reason to fear what I suggested or act like there’s the only way is to not spray , what exactly are u fearful ? Prevention and clean ipm is only key cause I get my meds lab tested and I haven’t failed one in years ( ones I did was outdoors and it didn’t have to do with what I sprayed , just pm)


Example of fear of nothing and making it sound like a no go like the organic growers (I do a lot of that but I still understand logic) that even thou it’s Organic approved , many are deadly to breath in or have high levels of deadly metals. Example do you know what’s in azomite ;)
 

horribleherk

home grown
so ur example is trying to explain I suggested dangerous pesticides? I went up and beyond and explained some of the safest and effective biocontrol and safest pesticides out there , that works in broad range of pests.

why be a ass and add fake comedy and it’s like the govt making policies of no pesticides ? No logical reason to fear what I suggested or act like there’s the only way is to not spray , what exactly are u fearful ? Prevention and clean ipm is only key cause I get my meds lab tested and I haven’t failed one in years ( ones I did was outdoors and it didn’t have to do with what I sprayed , just pm)


Example of fear of nothing and making it sound like a no go like the organic growers (I do a lot of that but I still understand logic) that even thou it’s Organic approved , many are deadly to breath in or have high levels of deadly metals. Example do you know what’s in azomite ;)
I've never had anything tested my op is small & until now I've had no need to spray but what has happened is changing all of that toxins can be man made or natural like mold I'm definitely coming out of this with a better understanding of mites other than the spider mites I used to get when I lived in an agricultural area these mites are different , harder to see z& more destructive I've read the labels on organic stuff that says safe up until day of harvest but often what kind of compound burning it would generate oddly enough azomite is one of the things I was seriously considering
 

Kind024

In Bloom
@Burned Haze laid it out for you. Use that information to save your other tent. If an infestation like that is already in the house/tent those mites are in your other tent too.

I haven't read everything that's been posted here so please forgive my redundancy if its been said. There isnt anything you can spray at this point to safe that plant or plants. You could kill the mites on it. But not with anything you want to combust. You may not want to hear that. I know it's hard to kill flowers so close to finish...I have. I understand it may be difficult and I mean nothing derogatory or insulting by this.

I've had all sorts of pests in my rooms and it takes a while for mites to throw down on a plant like that.

That plant is weakened and calling for natures cleanup crew at this point... more bugs, mites and or mold.

My two cents is take all the infected biomass spray it with bleach, put it in a paper bag, take it outside and burn it. Then I'd go with @Evergreen on this one....but I'm not into chemical bombs. However mite eggs can lay dormant 4 weeks. If you miss one they will hatch and find their way to other plants.

Cleanliness it key. Clean everything top to bottom in the tent and the room the tent is in...same with the other tent. Keep up with weekly cleaning sessions and stay up on the IPM programs mentioned in @Burned Haze posts...Nice posts by the way!
 
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