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MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
Wish I could offer you more help Herk but I've never had to take on this particular battle personally. Have you given any thought on taking some cuttings? If you really wanna keep these genetics alive I think it'd be worth a shot to take some, if possible, treat those, and use as a backup plan just incase you can't get a grip on the mother plant. Good luck buddy!
 

horribleherk

home grown
Wish I could offer you more help Herk but I've never had to take on this particular battle personally. Have you given any thought on taking some cuttings? If you really wanna keep these genetics alive I think it'd be worth a shot to take some, if possible, treat those, and use as a backup plan just incase you can't get a grip on the mother plant. Good luck buddy!
Some of this new growth should offer up some cuttings I have arcata trainwreck cuttings on standby in case things go south pull up a chair & we will see how this all plays out lol
 

Capt's Farm

CHOOSE YOUR TITLE
This is something I say 1 in a 100 times..but it's the 2 nd time I have said this in The last month or so..

Cut you're losses now...
Get a few cuts if possible..Bugs and all..spray the shit out of them..

Pull everything out and clean, bleach,clean.

Spray down everything and I mean everything..and start dropping beans..

Your never going to get it right trying to keep this going.. the end product is going to be Shit.....anyways...
 

MacGydro

Gum Wrapper Grows
Those last couple pics were rough, and I feel for ya man! With some diligence, you can probably clean it up, and salvage some, but I know that's gotta be a kick in the dick, especially considering how nice your garden usually is!
I only know because I've battled just about everything you could think of. Good experience, I guess, but it hurts while you're going through it.
So, here's another 2 cents from me, to add to your knowledge bank...
For any pests, or diseases, I try to be as safe as possible, and try to have things under control by or before week 4 of flower, so as to hopefully not have anything sprayed on formed buds...
Like I said, diligence will be your number one ingredient. Whatever you do, do it at least twice a week, for 2 weeks. Things should start getting better by then. After that, try to at least spray once a week. I normally fuck up by getting lazy, and not keeping to that schedule. Staying on top of the problem will keep them at bay.
As far as my personal preferred cocktail goes, I use JMS stylet oil at 2tsp per gallon, which is a mineral oil, meant to suffocate the bugs/mildew spores. (It'll also suffocate the leaves and plant itself, if you use too much)
Add a few drops of dish soap, to distribute the oil evenly.
My next level of defense, if needed, is nicotine, a neurotoxin.
Get a bag of tobacco, and a tea brewing egg. Put the tobacco in a coffee filter, inside the egg, and boil it for a half hour or so, just to be safe from the dreaded "TMV" (which I think is a myth itself).
Again, diligence... If you spray once a week, you might miss some, so keep it to twice a week, for at least a couple weeks.
I've battled mites, aphids, and gnats at the same time, and this combo of ingredients will knock their asses back to nothing, if you use them enough.
Personality, I never did SCROGs because it's so much harder to get to each plant, if problems arise. I always preferred to be able to get each plant out and attended to, if needed.
Sorry for the long winded reply, but hopefully it's food for thought. Keep on top of them, and you'll be victorious. Good luck man!
 

horribleherk

home grown
Those last couple pics were rough, and I feel for ya man! With some diligence, you can probably clean it up, and salvage some, but I know that's gotta be a kick in the dick, especially considering how nice your garden usually is!
I only know because I've battled just about everything you could think of. Good experience, I guess, but it hurts while you're going through it.
So, here's another 2 cents from me, to add to your knowledge bank...
For any pests, or diseases, I try to be as safe as possible, and try to have things under control by or before week 4 of flower, so as to hopefully not have anything sprayed on formed buds...
Like I said, diligence will be your number one ingredient. Whatever you do, do it at least twice a week, for 2 weeks. Things should start getting better by then. After that, try to at least spray once a week. I normally fuck up by getting lazy, and not keeping to that schedule. Staying on top of the problem will keep them at bay.
As far as my personal preferred cocktail goes, I use JMS stylet oil at 2tsp per gallon, which is a mineral oil, meant to suffocate the bugs/mildew spores. (It'll also suffocate the leaves and plant itself, if you use too much)
Add a few drops of dish soap, to distribute the oil evenly.
My next level of defense, if needed, is nicotine, a neurotoxin.
Get a bag of tobacco, and a tea brewing egg. Put the tobacco in a coffee filter, inside the egg, and boil it for a half hour or so, just to be safe from the dreaded "TMV" (which I think is a myth itself).
Again, diligence... If you spray once a week, you might miss some, so keep it to twice a week, for at least a couple weeks.
I've battled mites, aphids, and gnats at the same time, and this combo of ingredients will knock their asses back to nothing, if you use them enough.
Personality, I never did SCROGs because it's so much harder to get to each plant, if problems arise. I always preferred to be able to get each plant out and attended to, if needed.
Sorry for the long winded reply, but hopefully it's food for thought. Keep on top of them, and you'll be victorious. Good luck man!
Thanks for taking the time to respond & what you're saying makes perfect sense I m serious considering taking clones & scrapping this grow I've got arcata trainwreck clones ready to go the plan is to bomb the tent then shop vac & bleach before the new stuff goes in the 5 plants in the 4x4 I believe I caught in time & I flipped them yesterday the mites the lady at the dept of agriculture Identified as 2 spot were dead so this tent is on the spray schedule you suggested it's been my experience with other mites & aphids &such just when you get comfortable/lazy the infestation flares up again
 

MacGydro

Gum Wrapper Grows
Yeah, it's a tough choice to cull plants, considering the time you already put in, and can't get back. If they're still in veg, and are already part of a schedule, needing to flower, I'd personally cut back the dead, and let the good stuff get back on track... But, if you've got some healthier stuff coming up close behind, needing new space, I'd cut my losses, so to speak, and move the trainwrecks up in line, and drop these current cuts back for next round. Sometimes it's good to over veg lol
Hope everything bounces back for you sooner than later!
We can't be stereotypical lazy stoners if we want a productive garden, that's for sure...I know I've tried to, and failed! Lol
 

horribleherk

home grown
Yeah, it's a tough choice to cull plants, considering the time you already put in, and can't get back. If they're still in veg, and are already part of a schedule, needing to flower, I'd personally cut back the dead, and let the good stuff get back on track... But, if you've got some healthier stuff coming up close behind, needing new space, I'd cut my losses, so to speak, and move the trainwrecks up in line, and drop these current cuts back for next round. Sometimes it's good to over veg lol
Hope everything bounces back for you sooner than later!
We can't be stereotypical lazy stoners if we want a productive garden, that's for sure...I know I've tried to, and failed! Lol
I pulled her today I'm gonna try to get some clones from her & bring this strain back at a later date if I cut all the damaged stuff there wouldn't be much left I'm starting over with 20/twenty Mendocino arcata trainwreck 20210205_120101.jpg
 

horribleherk

home grown
Started the next round of spraying this is what I'm finding on some of the damaged growth looks like dirt it's on both sides of the leaves 20210208_175838.jpg 20210208_175817.jpg 20210208_143954.jpg
 

horribleherk

home grown
So far the 4x4 tent has rebounded I'm not letting my guard down though until I get bud development I'm gonna alternate what I'm using z& do 2 application a week as preventative maintenance 20210214_221823.jpg
 
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