that tents gonna be fine if you stay on top of your treatments. One round doesn’t work. You need to understand the life cycles of your enemies... these are on a 3 day cycle and let me tell you they were just on a fckfest due to the moon. Any plant in the house you need to treat. Also the areas especially if you have carpet near by
A bug killer that stops everything !
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BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
As suggestion of great “knockout” and you can repeat this ipm knockout more times than most tradional . Just never rely on one ( no matter what pest it is )
A diy and super easy of greencleaner and will make gallons vs if you Buy greencleaner from the maker of it , pricey
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green cleaner recipe:
48 oz.
10mL 90% iso alcohol
5ml Dr. Bronners Sals Suds
15mL Canola oil or neem and/or essential oils
1 gal.
30mL 90% iso alcohol
15ml Dr. Bronners Sals Suds
30mL Canola oil or neem and/or essential oils
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50-75 bucks gets you gallons of greencleaner and simple mix. Everything u can get at local or amazon
A diy and super easy of greencleaner and will make gallons vs if you Buy greencleaner from the maker of it , pricey
“
green cleaner recipe:
48 oz.
10mL 90% iso alcohol
5ml Dr. Bronners Sals Suds
15mL Canola oil or neem and/or essential oils
1 gal.
30mL 90% iso alcohol
15ml Dr. Bronners Sals Suds
30mL Canola oil or neem and/or essential oils
“
50-75 bucks gets you gallons of greencleaner and simple mix. Everything u can get at local or amazon
Green Cleaner: How to make your own?
Just pulled the trigger on some Sal Suds Biodegradable Cleaner and Soybean oil. I have 91% Iso on hand. We'll see what comes of this. :yes:
www.icmag.com
Caddis
Zinger
Not an example, sorry you read so much into it, not sure how the government got involved.so ur example is trying to explain I suggested dangerous pesticides? I went up and beyond and explained some of the safest and effective biocontrol and safest pesticides out there , that works in broad range of pests.
why be a ass and add fake comedy and it’s like the govt making policies of no pesticides ? No logical reason to fear what I suggested or act like there’s the only way is to not spray , what exactly are u fearful ? Prevention and clean ipm is only key cause I get my meds lab tested and I haven’t failed one in years ( ones I did was outdoors and it didn’t have to do with what I sprayed , just pm)
Example of fear of nothing and making it sound like a no go like the organic growers (I do a lot of that but I still understand logic) that even thou it’s Organic approved , many are deadly to breath in or have high levels of deadly metals. Example do you know what’s in azomite
Lightening the mood on a Monday, it’s tough out there.
Kind024
In Bloom
I didn't read that part about the government. Haha.
Different strokes, different folks I suppose. My ribs are going to be sore later!
I think everyone is entitled to their...
That's what makes it fun. If we all agreed on the same thing life would get boring quick with very little progression.
@Caddis, I personally love the comedy. Would you care to share your methodology? I'm interested. I'm all natural and organic in my approach. Burning is also an organic approach...which I have indulged in a few times.
Different strokes, different folks I suppose. My ribs are going to be sore later!
I think everyone is entitled to their...
That's what makes it fun. If we all agreed on the same thing life would get boring quick with very little progression.
@Caddis, I personally love the comedy. Would you care to share your methodology? I'm interested. I'm all natural and organic in my approach. Burning is also an organic approach...which I have indulged in a few times.
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Caddis
Zinger
Glad you appreciate it for what it was. I realized about mid-day how the overall might be taken out of context.
I’m not organic and don’t judge either way. All the talk about spraying stuff, it’s just a really funny scene in a movie I like.
The explosion sent the wrong message to some, sorry.
Pretty funny, though!
I am learning how to run dtw coco/ perlite, feeding Jack’s 321 w/ Hydroguard. Ran rdwc before that.
Tried Recharge for 1st time last week, didn’t kill anything, so that’s a plus.
I’m envious of you organic growers, tried it a few years ago (Rev’s), but I didn’t know enough to fill in the gaps in what the book left out. I could just ask now, wasn’t an option then.
Caddis
Zinger
I will say, I’m blown away by all the bugs some people get and all the products to fight them.
I’ve always wanted to ask if it is certain parts of the country, environmental or ?
Indoors I use yellow sticky’s for a few gnats, don’t have any other bugs.
Outside summer vegetable garden is a different story, I’ll lay it to them!
I’ve always wanted to ask if it is certain parts of the country, environmental or ?
Indoors I use yellow sticky’s for a few gnats, don’t have any other bugs.
Outside summer vegetable garden is a different story, I’ll lay it to them!
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
To answer your remarks
I can tell you many growers from small to commerical that will tel ya there’s nothing in there rooms , but won’t throughly check as a ipm where so many wait till infected to be active and being about prevention protocols in their rooms
So many growers that aren’t pro ipm they always wanna brag “I’ve never had a bug” , it’s always funny cause when so many times within 5 minutes in their room if they let me look at their garden , whatcha know I found some bugs or issues and they were 100% not aware .
Even outdoors so many growers want to claim that bugs aren’t there or they are bug free . I betcha got bugs and you aren’t ipm scanning and have a good ipm protocol .
Bugs and molds are like a sex , be preventive and do t be like “ I don’t have aids or sexual disease or haven’t had a kid yet “ well guess what , it’ll happen or you got the disease by not being preventive
I can tell you many growers from small to commerical that will tel ya there’s nothing in there rooms , but won’t throughly check as a ipm where so many wait till infected to be active and being about prevention protocols in their rooms
So many growers that aren’t pro ipm they always wanna brag “I’ve never had a bug” , it’s always funny cause when so many times within 5 minutes in their room if they let me look at their garden , whatcha know I found some bugs or issues and they were 100% not aware .
Even outdoors so many growers want to claim that bugs aren’t there or they are bug free . I betcha got bugs and you aren’t ipm scanning and have a good ipm protocol .
Bugs and molds are like a sex , be preventive and do t be like “ I don’t have aids or sexual disease or haven’t had a kid yet “ well guess what , it’ll happen or you got the disease by not being preventive
horribleherk
home grown
Thanks this is good to know
horribleherk
home grown
I decided to hold off on spraying until Thursday then over the weekend I'm gonna bleach the room itself & switch to a neem based spray for the tents & plants
horribleherk
home grown
Today's pic of the 3x3 & Big-n-tasty not much change yet
horribleherk
home grown
The 4x4 with sin city juice is not seriously affected & I think is able to be flipped soon
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
If you truly have russets vs two spot or other species. Did you actually get a confirm that’s what it is?
the stuff you listed above wont work on russet control . Won’t effect or kill russets in anyway. If your having russets, even two spot your just asking for a wild west of the mite coming back right when u stop applying the sprays and they even stress the plant vs biocontrols and low stress concentration
russets = apply a knockout of green cleaner or evergreen 5.0 or conserve sc than after that apply every 2 days a diff product, go To biocontrol mixture , I sugggest Grandevo + pfr + wetting agent and if you didn’t already apply evergreen 5.0 or conserve sc, mix that too, than 3 venerate xc, than 2 days later “knockout of ones listed but not the same one 3 days ago” + biocontrol mixed like evergreen 5.o and wetting agent ( I suggest yucca extract )
it’s a horrible mindset on any IPM to rely on any as a holy grail and biocontrols with the knock out will not only make the pest not function as good, make them not be able to reproduce as fast and kills them. key issue with just relying on for example conserve sc or evergreen 5.0 is they have spray limits per season like 3-5 times per season cycle ( main reason why for resistant of pest is guaranteed ) that’s why I also suggested dthe green cleaner as a suggestion for knockout cause it does not have cycle limits but shouldn’t be used as the only one, pests for non biocontrol do become resistant and you make a super big from that
it may sound pricy but once you are applying it at 7 days differance when u aren’t infected anymore and the products last per gallon way cheaper than most products at hydro store. Key is read the manual to know what rates kill mites .
now spinosad (conserve sc) is listed to kill mites and a lot of cats on these boards want to claim it won’t kill, know for a d act it does and ive seen many trials of people using all the products I listed above, and the main outdoor dudes that tried all that said they loved conserve sc and venerate and Grandevo .
www.thcfarmer.com
I’ve had the same bottle of conserve sc for a few years and it’s ultra in concentration vs captain jacks. Totally worth it just like the biocontrols it’s pennies per gallon vs pricy ass shit like azamax and most hydro sold stuff.
you think big ag is willing to pay 5 bucks a gallon
the stuff you listed above wont work on russet control . Won’t effect or kill russets in anyway. If your having russets, even two spot your just asking for a wild west of the mite coming back right when u stop applying the sprays and they even stress the plant vs biocontrols and low stress concentration
russets = apply a knockout of green cleaner or evergreen 5.0 or conserve sc than after that apply every 2 days a diff product, go To biocontrol mixture , I sugggest Grandevo + pfr + wetting agent and if you didn’t already apply evergreen 5.0 or conserve sc, mix that too, than 3 venerate xc, than 2 days later “knockout of ones listed but not the same one 3 days ago” + biocontrol mixed like evergreen 5.o and wetting agent ( I suggest yucca extract )
it’s a horrible mindset on any IPM to rely on any as a holy grail and biocontrols with the knock out will not only make the pest not function as good, make them not be able to reproduce as fast and kills them. key issue with just relying on for example conserve sc or evergreen 5.0 is they have spray limits per season like 3-5 times per season cycle ( main reason why for resistant of pest is guaranteed ) that’s why I also suggested dthe green cleaner as a suggestion for knockout cause it does not have cycle limits but shouldn’t be used as the only one, pests for non biocontrol do become resistant and you make a super big from that
it may sound pricy but once you are applying it at 7 days differance when u aren’t infected anymore and the products last per gallon way cheaper than most products at hydro store. Key is read the manual to know what rates kill mites .
now spinosad (conserve sc) is listed to kill mites and a lot of cats on these boards want to claim it won’t kill, know for a d act it does and ive seen many trials of people using all the products I listed above, and the main outdoor dudes that tried all that said they loved conserve sc and venerate and Grandevo .
russet mites
Look at the time it's active in the plant if it's sestemtic. You should be fine man. Hit em hard. Use essential oils during flowering. Lots out there you can reverse engineer basically any spray out there like 86 or gardeners choice
www.thcfarmer.com
I’ve had the same bottle of conserve sc for a few years and it’s ultra in concentration vs captain jacks. Totally worth it just like the biocontrols it’s pennies per gallon vs pricy ass shit like azamax and most hydro sold stuff.
you think big ag is willing to pay 5 bucks a gallon
horribleherk
home grown
Don't know they're russet mites for sure just know they're different than the common mites we used to get when I lived in the san Joaquin valley they're smaller & don't bore holes clear through leaves only going by the videos the symptoms match russet mites the outdoor growers around here reccomend & use the bonide sulphur on the mites they get in this area I'm assuming the ones I've got originated in my back yard as I've been popping seeds for a couple of years now without incident I have a hard time seeing small stuff I'm fighting off diabetic retinopathy in both eyes with monthly injections directly in the eyes so vision not one of my strong points but I figure if the russet mites are the toughest that's my worst case scenario since spraying I'm having a hard time finding any bodies under 10x they looked like tiny clear bubbles attached to the veins of under the fan leaves the tiny bubbles looked semi transparent or almost clearIf you truly have russets vs two spot or other species. Did you actually get a confirm that’s what it is?
the stuff you listed above wont work on russet control . Won’t effect or kill russets in anyway. If your having russets, even two spot your just asking for a wild west of the mite coming back right when u stop applying the sprays and they even stress the plant vs biocontrols and low stress concentration
russets = apply a knockout of green cleaner or evergreen 5.0 or conserve sc than after that apply every 2 days a diff product, go To biocontrol mixture , I sugggest Grandevo + pfr + wetting agent and if you didn’t already apply evergreen 5.0 or conserve sc, mix that too, than 3 venerate xc, than 2 days later “knockout of ones listed but not the same one 3 days ago” + biocontrol mixed like evergreen 5.o and wetting agent ( I suggest yucca extract )
it’s a horrible mindset on any IPM to rely on any as a holy grail and biocontrols with the knock out will not only make the pest not function as good, make them not be able to reproduce as fast and kills them. key issue with just relying on for example conserve sc or evergreen 5.0 is they have spray limits per season like 3-5 times per season cycle ( main reason why for resistant of pest is guaranteed ) that’s why I also suggested dthe green cleaner as a suggestion for knockout cause it does not have cycle limits but shouldn’t be used as the only one, pests for non biocontrol do become resistant and you make a super big from that
it may sound pricy but once you are applying it at 7 days differance when u aren’t infected anymore and the products last per gallon way cheaper than most products at hydro store. Key is read the manual to know what rates kill mites .
now spinosad (conserve sc) is listed to kill mites and a lot of cats on these boards want to claim it won’t kill, know for a d act it does and ive seen many trials of people using all the products I listed above, and the main outdoor dudes that tried all that said they loved conserve sc and venerate and Grandevo .
russet mites
Look at the time it's active in the plant if it's sestemtic. You should be fine man. Hit em hard. Use essential oils during flowering. Lots out there you can reverse engineer basically any spray out there like 86 or gardeners choice
I’ve had the same bottle of conserve sc for a few years and it’s ultra in concentration vs captain jacks. Totally worth it just like the biocontrols it’s pennies per gallon vs pricy ass shit like azamax and most hydro sold stuff.
you think big ag is willing to pay 5 bucks a gallon
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BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
not bashing you in anyway , just wanna help and get this resolved before u have a worse issue than it is
get a 20 bucks usb 1x-1000x microscope that works for your do,outer and they even have it for your phone too and take a few picture and send them to a beneficial bug wholesaler , they want your business and a good wholesaler will be able to confirm any bad or good bug very quickly. look at my suggestions and I listed this and the bug wholesalers website and such.
phenohunter.org
get a 20 bucks usb 1x-1000x microscope that works for your do,outer and they even have it for your phone too and take a few picture and send them to a beneficial bug wholesaler , they want your business and a good wholesaler will be able to confirm any bad or good bug very quickly. look at my suggestions and I listed this and the bug wholesalers website and such.
A bug killer that stops everything !
I've got as near as I can tell some sort of mites in one of my tents they leave webs & eggs similar to spider mites but after going over the plant cant find a living bug one what would stop this that is available at the local hydro shop I'm wanting something that kills a variety of stuff here is...
phenohunter.org
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horribleherk
home grown
Would azamax do the job ? I'm still a ways off from inducing flowering & have access to azomax free could pick it up tomorrow
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
not dissing you for your choices in anyway , that’s all on you For the way you wanna battle with the bugs and grow ,Just giving my input.Take it or leave it
key is finding the species your trying to conquer cause that’s the only way your going to get a good IPM plan or your just going blind on hatch timings and if the product does anything. the issue is spider mites aren’t just ”super mites” ( tono of species like all bugs and pest)and depending on the species, hatch and become harder to kill .
problem with trying to apply azamax or avid and not know what species your dealing with = it won’t kill your russets or broad mites if that’s what they are . But they work to at least piss off two spot. Avid def will kill two spot and misc ( but I don’t endorse or use that kind of stuff )
if you don’t care about being organic or using non approved products for cannabis and your risk of your health while spraying and the residue cleanup issues ( hints why a lot are not for indoor use cause youlll have those chemicals on the surfaces )
if before flower and it isn’t russets, this will wipe em out ( it will work but I do not recommend if It was me, do proper ppe if spraying these products )
avid or floramite or pylon
or pick one of products listed above alone if your close to flower if your going the nasty ( further the way in time to flower the better ) and spray every 7 days till flower dates . use the azamax first since it’s again le to u right now, than ethier do what I would do biocontrols + knock out and be safe or go nasty and what I wouldn’t recommend. Both would work to achieve a lower population .
www.edrosenthal.com
www.thcfarmer.com
www.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com
key is finding the species your trying to conquer cause that’s the only way your going to get a good IPM plan or your just going blind on hatch timings and if the product does anything. the issue is spider mites aren’t just ”super mites” ( tono of species like all bugs and pest)and depending on the species, hatch and become harder to kill .
problem with trying to apply azamax or avid and not know what species your dealing with = it won’t kill your russets or broad mites if that’s what they are . But they work to at least piss off two spot. Avid def will kill two spot and misc ( but I don’t endorse or use that kind of stuff )
if you don’t care about being organic or using non approved products for cannabis and your risk of your health while spraying and the residue cleanup issues ( hints why a lot are not for indoor use cause youlll have those chemicals on the surfaces )
if before flower and it isn’t russets, this will wipe em out ( it will work but I do not recommend if It was me, do proper ppe if spraying these products )
avid or floramite or pylon
or pick one of products listed above alone if your close to flower if your going the nasty ( further the way in time to flower the better ) and spray every 7 days till flower dates . use the azamax first since it’s again le to u right now, than ethier do what I would do biocontrols + knock out and be safe or go nasty and what I wouldn’t recommend. Both would work to achieve a lower population .
How to Prevent and Get Rid of Spider, Broad and Russet Mites on Your Cannabis — Ed Rosenthal
Learn about how to target, control and prevent mites in your marijuana grow, and the many varieties of predator mites you can use as to control cannabis crop destroying mites.
www.edrosenthal.com
Knock Out Russet Mites?
Curious if anyone has had any luck knocking out Russet Mites with the FP or RP...Full strength tea, or at what concentration?
www.thcfarmer.com
Russet Mites – What are They and How Do You Get Rid Of Them?
This can lead to a number of problems, so better to be safe than sorry and learn how to get rid of russet mites and infestations!
www.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com
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horribleherk
home grown
Got help today from an unlikely source the department of agriculture they have an office here & when I called them the lady told me to bring her some leaves to look at she said they aren't what she called hemp russet mites & said I'm lucky they're 2 spot mites & can be stopped russet mites she said there is no safe way to stop & nothing organic from the hydro shop could eradicate the russet mite the 2 spot ones on my leaves were dead so I'm making progress she recommends neem or pyretheron something not sure of the spelling of it
horribleherk
home grown
not dissing you for your choices in anyway , that’s all on you For the way you wanna battle with the bugs and grow ,Just giving my input.Take it or leave it
key is finding the species your trying to conquer cause that’s the only way your going to get a good IPM plan or your just going blind on hatch timings and if the product does anything. the issue is spider mites aren’t just ”super mites” ( tono of species like all bugs and pest)and depending on the species, hatch and become harder to kill .
problem with trying to apply azamax or avid and not know what species your dealing with = it won’t kill your russets or broad mites if that’s what they are . But they work to at least piss off two spot. Avid def will kill two spot and misc ( but I don’t endorse or use that kind of stuff )
if you don’t care about being organic or using non approved products for cannabis and your risk of your health while spraying and the residue cleanup issues ( hints why a lot are not for indoor use cause youlll have those chemicals on the surfaces )
if before flower and it isn’t russets, this will wipe em out ( it will work but I do not recommend if It was me, do proper ppe if spraying these products )
avid or floramite or pylon
or pick one of products listed above alone if your close to flower if your going the nasty ( further the way in time to flower the better ) and spray every 7 days till flower dates . use the azamax first since it’s again le to u right now, than ethier do what I would do biocontrols + knock out and be safe or go nasty and what I wouldn’t recommend. Both would work to achieve a lower population .
How to Prevent and Get Rid of Spider, Broad and Russet Mites on Your Cannabis — Ed Rosenthal
Learn about how to target, control and prevent mites in your marijuana grow, and the many varieties of predator mites you can use as to control cannabis crop destroying mites.Knock Out Russet Mites?
Curious if anyone has had any luck knocking out Russet Mites with the FP or RP...Full strength tea, or at what concentration?Russet Mites – What are They and How Do You Get Rid Of Them?
This can lead to a number of problems, so better to be safe than sorry and learn how to get rid of russet mites and infestations!
Good stuff in this video you've provided a gold mine of info thanks much appreciated
horribleherk
home grown
I've got some new growth today
