Auto breeders

[Frimpong]

Sorry I wasn't more clear. What I am referring to is creating auto strains from photo strains by introducing the auto trait to a pure photo. This is a long process and takes 3-6 generations to completely isolate the auto trait. The nice thing about it is we get plenty of time to continue selective breeding and select the best plant for the following progeny. We like to have 100 females to choose from but were happy if we end up with 50. Most of the time we run regs for the first 2 generations then switch over to reversing females after that. We find the selective breeding process to be much easier with reversed females because we can judge the female characteristics of both parents. Although the process is a little more complicated, once we are only working with females it saves a lot of space and resources.
Cheers

Exactly what I thought you meant. Def a bit more complicated. But sounds fun. I have only crossed autos

 

[Mr Toast]

Sorry I wasn't more clear. What I am referring to is creating auto strains from photo strains by introducing the auto trait to a pure photo. This is a long process and takes 3-6 generations to completely isolate the auto trait while keeping all of the traits we want from the photo. The nice thing about it is we get plenty of time to continue selective breeding and select the best plant for the following progeny. We like to have 100 females to choose from but were happy if we end up with 50. Most of the time we run regs for the first 2 generations then switch over to reversing females after that. We find the selective breeding process to be much easier with reversed females because we can judge the female characteristics of both parents. Although the process is a little more complicated, once we are only working with females it saves a lot of space and resources.
Cheers

Thanks for the explanation Adam...

Still has me wondering how you're still getting photoperiod phenotypes in future generations once you breed the 'observed' Autoflowers?

All offspring will be Autos from these..

cheers

 

[Twenty20 Adam]

Thanks for the explanation Adam...

Still has me wondering how you're still getting photoperiod phenotypes in future generations once you breed the 'observed' Autoflowers?

All offspring will be Autos from these..

cheers

To clear it up. We are very particular about the "Auto" trait we are looking for. We only choose a particular trait. Looking back at my post I should have used the phrase "auto trait we are looking for, along with keeping (or improving) the traits of the strain we are trying to recreate" If they start flowering too early (I call these hair trigger autos) or too late we call them "long haulers" we discard them . One of the thing that really frustrates me about growing many autoflower strains is the fact that they start flowering at widely different intervals. We are trying to bottleneck that trait and produce strains that all start flowering in the same week. This is one of the reasons autoflowers aren't very viable for commercial production (especially indoor). Growers need strains that start flowering at nearly the same time and finish at the same time. We are deligently trying to produce seeds that finish in the same 7 day period. We have been getting a little bit closer on each generation. It takes us 3-7 generations to get what we want. Our goal is to provide commercially viable auto seeds for many of the famers here in the Emerald Triangle who have been burned cultivating autos with wild phenotypic variation and harvest intervals. Unfortunately, those issues have created a bad name for autoflowers around here. People see them as cultivars only suitable for extracts. We see things differently and are hoping to make strains that can be used for both extracts and flower. Attached is a photo of one of our F3's of a strain called Nose Candy. (Origins: White Tahoe Cookies, Glue Sniffer, Double White). This tough gal has been growing in the fog and smoke for the entire summer on the coastline in N Cali. She is definitely a mold resistant pheno because some of her sisters rotted off the stock weeks ago. She has been seeded (F4's) and we will be running those seeds at least one more generation before we go into production.

Peace All!

 

[Frimpong]

To clear it up. We are very particular about the "Auto" trait we are looking for. We only choose a particular trait. Looking back at my post I should have used the phrase "auto trait we are looking for, along with keeping (or improving) the traits of the strain we are trying to recreate" If they start flowering too early (I call these hair trigger autos) or too late we call them "long haulers" we discard them . One of the thing that really frustrates me about growing many autoflower strains is the fact that they start flowering at widely different intervals. We are trying to bottleneck that trait and produce strains that all start flowering in the same week. This is one of the reasons autoflowers aren't very viable for commercial production (especially indoor). Growers need strains that start flowering at nearly the same time and finish at the same time. We are deligently trying to produce seeds that finish in the same 7 day period. We have been getting a little bit closer on each generation. It takes us 3-7 generations to get what we want. Our goal is to provide commercially viable auto seeds for many of the famers here in the Emerald Triangle who have been burned cultivating autos with wild phenotypic variation and harvest intervals. Unfortunately, those issues have created a bad name for autoflowers around here. People see them as cultivars only suitable for extracts. We see things differently and are hoping to make strains that can be used for both extracts and flower. Attached is a photo of one of our F3's of a strain called Nose Candy. (Origins: White Tahoe Cookies, Glue Sniffer, Double White). This tough gal has been growing in the fog and smoke for the entire summer on the coastline in N Cali. She is definitely a mold resistant pheno because some of her sisters rotted off the stock weeks ago. She has been seeded (F4's) and we will be running those seeds at least one more generation before we go into production.

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looks good !

 

[Ggrow]

To clear it up. We are very particular about the "Auto" trait we are looking for. We only choose a particular trait. Looking back at my post I should have used the phrase "auto trait we are looking for, along with keeping (or improving) the traits of the strain we are trying to recreate" If they start flowering too early (I call these hair trigger autos) or too late we call them "long haulers" we discard them . One of the thing that really frustrates me about growing many autoflower strains is the fact that they start flowering at widely different intervals. We are trying to bottleneck that trait and produce strains that all start flowering in the same week. This is one of the reasons autoflowers aren't very viable for commercial production (especially indoor). Growers need strains that start flowering at nearly the same time and finish at the same time. We are deligently trying to produce seeds that finish in the same 7 day period. We have been getting a little bit closer on each generation. It takes us 3-7 generations to get what we want. Our goal is to provide commercially viable auto seeds for many of the famers here in the Emerald Triangle who have been burned cultivating autos with wild phenotypic variation and harvest intervals. Unfortunately, those issues have created a bad name for autoflowers around here. People see them as cultivars only suitable for extracts. We see things differently and are hoping to make strains that can be used for both extracts and flower. Attached is a photo of one of our F3's of a strain called Nose Candy. (Origins: White Tahoe Cookies, Glue Sniffer, Double White). This tough gal has been growing in the fog and smoke for the entire summer on the coastline in N Cali. She is definitely a mold resistant pheno because some of her sisters rotted off the stock weeks ago. She has been seeded (F4's) and we will be running those seeds at least one more generation before we go into production.

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You guys kick ass! Can't wait to grow out your beautiful genetics! Really hope you guys do international shipping outside US.

 

[Ggrow]

Chop day for Dinafem Cookies. Only took 72 days to get so ripe. So frosty she could pass off as a photoperiod lol. Dinafem really knows what they're doing imho. Note that this plant lost her beautiful main cola to budrot before the picture was taken. Grown indoors with crazy high heat and humidity. Fully organic.

 

[Ggrow]

Seedstocker's not very purple Purple Punch. But I got another that's very purple but small.

 

[MtRainDog]

Chop day for Dinafem Cookies. Only took 72 days to get so ripe. So frosty she could pass off as a photoperiod lol. Dinafem really knows what they're doing imho. Note that this plant lost her beautiful main cola to budrot before the picture was taken. Grown indoors with crazy high heat and humidity. Fully organic.

Looks great!

Dinafem autos are good. Here's their Critical Jack Auto from a microgrow I did this spring. Fast finisher, classic sativa effect. Nice terps on this strain too.

 

[Twenty20 Adam]

Looks great!

Dinafem autos are good. Here's their Critical Jack Auto from a microgrow I did this spring. Fast finisher, classic sativa effect. Nice terps on this strain too.
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Nice!!

 

[Twenty20 Adam]

Looks great!

Dinafem autos are good. Here's their Critical Jack Auto from a microgrow I did this spring. Fast finisher, classic sativa effect. Nice terps on this strain too.
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Gorgeous!

 

[CovikLaflaire]

@Twenty20 Adam

Are buds so "leafy"???..I had autos grown once like that.. buds were leafs just like this.. Super frosty and all,but no hard materia in them,just leafs like rose in flower.

 

[Twenty20 Adam]

@Twenty20 Adam

Are buds so "leafy"???..I had autos grown once like that.. buds were leafs just like this.. Super frosty and all,but no hard materia in them,just leafs like rose in flower.

Its just strain specific and not at all related to the fact she is an auto. This lady is still several weeks away from harvest as well.

 

[Ggrow]

THC Bomb Auto by Bomb Seeds

 

[Gentlemancorpse]

Just wanted to share this whacky Sour Sheriff from Wicked Pissah... It's growing more like ground cover than a cannabis plant... this was never topped and never trained, the main stem just grew sideways and then up

 

[Frimpong]

Just wanted to share this whacky Sour Sheriff from Wicked Pissah... It's growing more like ground cover than a cannabis plant... this was never topped and never trained, the main stem just grew sideways and then up View attachment 31117

Wow what a spread she got going. Pretty cool

 

[Gentlemancorpse]

Wow what a spread she got going. Pretty cool

Yeah, I've never grown a plant quite like her... the leaves have dropped/curled like that the whole time too, no matter what I do

 

[Frimpong]

Yeah, I've never grown a plant quite like her... the leaves have dropped/curled like that the whole time too, no matter what I do

Just had a crinkle leaf pheno myself lol. It's funny but it's true . And the one I had dominated the other pheno.

 

[Skunky Dunk Farms]

Just wanted to share this whacky Sour Sheriff from Wicked Pissah... It's growing more like ground cover than a cannabis plant... this was never topped and never trained, the main stem just grew sideways and then up View attachment 31117

Very interesting.

 

[Blu-Tri]

Autos have a trick that needs to be addressed. Until you figure it out, you will get subpar growth. The autos I deal with, smoke way better than photos. Until recently, I thought the difference was in the bud structure. If your auto doesn’t look as well as a photo, there is something that you are doing wrong. Rocbuds plants are usually huge. 2 ounce off and auto is nothing. They can perform just as well as a photo... especially outside. Most newer autos will truely surprise you. Photo growers always say autos aren’t their yet .. auto growers say. I don’t know what the heck he is smoking. Most of the autos I smoke are on par with each other. The only differences will be yield and taste. Fastbuds have huge autos that taste great as well. I can’t tell the difference between and the photo they are modeled after.

 

[Photon Pharms]

Just had a crinkle leaf pheno myself lol. It's funny but it's true . And the one I had dominated the other pheno.

It's funny how out of whack a plant can appear and yet still be fine. I remember a few instances as young lad with clean fingernails, it would drive me crazy. Especially the fake out "it's too hot in here so I'm going to curl leaves up on you" phenos. Haha. Used to drive me nuts. Us humans just HAVE to play with stuff. Haha