Meatman

? Master of Meat ?
There are so many ways that work . Just gotta find what's easiest for you
Exactly cause I’ve shown people and they have done it the same way as me with little success….it’s crazy I could pick up my whole room which is dialed in pretty damn good bring it to your house set it up the same and would be the worst plants we’ve ever seen grown it’s crazy how this plant works
 

HydroRed

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My STS kit from @HydroRed arrived today. I cannot wait for these Copper Orgi clones to quit revenging so I can start the Reversal on one of them and pollinate the other.

Question though if I reverse a clone of a Copper Orgi S1 and pollinate the other S1 clone does that make the beans Copper Orgi S2s?
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I believe those will actually be S1's -still. They were S1's when Amos made em, so unless you pollinated the original parent that Amos has/had with your reversed cut then you are just starting the series of selfing back at "square one". Now if you reversed an offspring from your S1's and pollinated the original momma you took cuts from, then you would have some S2's.
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
I believe those will actually be S1's -still. They were S1's when Amos made em, so unless you pollinated the original parent that Amos has/had with your reversed cut then you are just starting the series of selfing back at "square one". Now if you reversed an offspring from your S1's and pollinated the original momma you took cuts from, then you would have some S2's.
Thank you so much for clearing that up. It gets confusing sometimes. So more S1s here we go ?
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
See my cloning routine is really precisely... first I take a bunch of cuts from the plant, then about three weeks later I throw them in the trash ?

The steps in between vary frequently but the end results rarely change...
This is how I felt a few weeks ago. It sucks to do all that work to only have a few take. So I’m gonna figure out a way for me to get a routine/plan of execution to follow everytime so my success is much higher.
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
UPDATE

ANCESTRAL SKUNK:
Looking way way better then she did a little over a week ago. Today all the old messed up leaves are partially trimmed off and the new growth is a perfect forest green. The buds are super bright green with flakes of dark green and mounts of trichomes everywhere

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WHAT I DID- she seemed to have some rooting problems in the #1 plastic pots and when i popped off the pot all these nice white roots were just wrapped around in a thick mess. I also tested the soil and the PH was Closer to 8 so I added a teaspoon of soil acidifier and watered the plant a few more times then I left it go.

COPPER ORGI S1 (chem pheno)
Still yellowing. Practically every fan leaf. I’m thinking I screwed something up so I’m just gonna try to keep her alive and stacking like she is and as long as the buds don’t turn yellow at this point I just want to make it to harvest since I have a few clones of her. I’m gonna do a really thorough flush on her tonight before lights out and see if that does anything otherwise I’m just gonna rock out and pray we make it to harvest.


WHAT I DID:
added soil acidifier to bring ph down from 8.5. Flushed her with 3 gallons of water u til run off was clear. Let her sit for 2 days then started feeding again because almost every fan leaf was yellowing. I’m hoping that this fixed it. I will say one thing in the last week the buds have tripled in size. Pics to come soon
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
UPGRADE
(BUBBLE CLONER 2.0)
So after looking at my earlier model of my bubble cloner I felt like it was very half assed. Me personally I do t like to half ass anything at all so I went back and redesigned a better amd more effective cloner. This one even has a dome lid, net pots, an air stone(being replaced with a 4” round stone tonight) and neoprene collars. In total with the pump,stone,net pots, collars, tubing, and Tupperware container this cloner cost me $40 the light was an additional 30$ but it’s a 13.5w 3xway LED and the perfect height for my cloner.

to me this newer version is sturdier, has more clone spots and looks ? cleaner than version #1 made from a ziploc container. I will be putting the diy/steps to how I made this one since the only ones I saw in the threads were much bigger and held way more clones. I needed a smaller version that I could put in the closet with my 2 tents. This is doing excellent so far. The seedlings I placed in there are throwing fish skeleton roots everywhere while the clones are looking good with lots of white beneficial bacteria on the tips.
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BigPretzel

In Bloom
Did a little edit with my favorite dos jelly pic. Still doesn’t look like those killer ones on IG. I need to get a camera this IPhone 12max isn’t cutting it. In love the phone but the camera is a finicky bitch to focus. They keep switching cameras lens everytime I get the perfect angle. FA659ED5-3414-4177-8D49-60CCA884B8B7.jpeg
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
*UPDATE*
The Copper Orgi finally pulled through and is back to stacking fat frosty buds again. I figured out what was wrong. When I watered them a few weeks ago I fed them for 4 days in a row by accident because I was rushing around a lot that week. I went back and looked at my notes and I never flushed them after that or gave her a few days of water o went to water a day then back to my normal schedule of every other day feeding. I’m pretty sure that cause salt pockets in my soil and was locking out certain nutrients. I had to give her a good 5gallon flush of phd water and nothing else until she was running clear water out the bottom at a 100-80ppm then I gave her a super light feed of 250ppm pretty much just calmag and some micro with a little bit of recharge and she looks better then ever.

Oh and I did add soil acidifier before flushing since my soil was at 8.5ph so I think the little bit of acidifier plus the 6.5 ph water helped bring it to a perfect 6-6.5ph in the media. Because now she is just growing perfect.
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I wanted to thank @Gentlemancorpse and @JL2G for all the info and ideas on how to fix it. Combined they worked like a charm!
 
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Polyuro

In Bloom
Did a little edit with my favorite dos jelly pic. Still doesn’t look like those killer ones on IG. I need to get a camera this IPhone 12max isn’t cutting it. In love the phone but the camera is a finicky bitch to focus. They keep switching cameras lens everytime I get the perfect angle. View attachment 75189

Any smoke report on the Dos Jellies or is it still drying? Have a few coming along ?
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
DOS JELLY​

They were just put in the bowl I use for 2-5 days before they go in the jars but they are all trimmed up and dry enough to sample 211CBE85-25C3-4FCD-BF24-8F18ACF74FD7.jpeg 880C7056-E05E-4651-A313-8A59C7A8F905.jpeg

After trimming these dense buds from my two girls I had to get a little taste.
As far as aroma it’s kinda weak right now. Although these weren’t that dank of a plant to begin with.I get a herbal, grassy, spice and very very light, sweet citrus astringency Now as far as trich production… ? these things look like little white snd green diamonds in the bowl. These photos just don’t do them justice.

the important part… the smoke/Buzz report—Dos Jelly burned so smooth and clean I wish I could of packed another one right afterwards but I was STONED. Very euphoric head stoned with a nice body warming feeling. Idk if yous guys remember “creeper weed” it’s what we used to call this stuff when I was a teen. You would smoke it and feel a head buzz and a little body high then it would sneak up little by little until you were kicked the fuck back! This was exactly like that but the head euphoria was strong as is to begin with. I wouldn’t say this is a strain for light weights. Definitely stronger then a lot of stuff I’ve gotten from the dispensary lately.

The taste— to be honest I almost don’t want to comment on this yet because the cure to me is what makes the taste and aroma come forth and just pop. Taste is kinda MEH right now. Very herbal/basil/parsley with a slight sweet and chem taste.
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
DRAGON FIRE GENETICS​
SCGM 9 (testers)

This was the only female that made it out of the 5 testers I had. All of them showed excellent growth structure and vigor. They were easily manipulated (LST) and slapped back from being topped with ease. The only thing that I didn’t like so far was how touch it was after transplant. This was the first time I had a plant throw a deficiency (iron) for a few days until it adjusted. All of the other plants I transplanted took to the transplant like nothing even happened.
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Beginning signs of Iron Deficiency(above)
(Below)Before&After
LST to the MAX!!!
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Dino Party

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Did a little edit with my favorite dos jelly pic. Still doesn’t look like those killer ones on IG. I need to get a camera this IPhone 12max isn’t cutting it. In love the phone but the camera is a finicky bitch to focus. They keep switching cameras lens everytime I get the perfect angle. View attachment 75189
The key to that is in the editing, and it can be done with your phone. Use a tripod, take a few different photos with different focuses, and then layer them together, I use Cut & Paste on iOS for it. Lmao my shots ain’t great but I learned that’s one way to get those photos.

edit: oh yeah and a clip on macro lense and front light. Bout 10 bucks each
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
The key to that is in the editing, and it can be done with your phone. Use a tripod, take a few different photos with different focuses, and then layer them together, I use Cut & Paste on iOS for it. Lmao my shots ain’t great but I learned that’s one way to get those photos.

edit: oh yeah and a clip on macro lense and front light. Bout 10 bucks each
I got the clip on macro but with this damn iPhone 12 max pro or whatever it is. Had 4 cameras and the damn thing switches to a different camera everytime I’m about to get the thing in focus so I said screw the lense. I prob just need to play with it more. Thanks so much for the info. I see those macro dudes stacking like 120 photos to get some of this pics. So would I focus in at different points and then stack them to make it a fully clear image?
 

Dino Party

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Yeah tbh I’m about to pull the trigger on a real camera and a couple lenses. I think it’ll be worth it, especially with having a website trying to move my beans lol.

I personally knew I couldn’t handle the power, and thus responsibility that comes with owning an iPhone 12, so I have one with just a single camera. I found the best results were to just keep it simple. Put it in an area where my phone could focus on the entire nug in 2 or 3 different focus’, and it made the layering a lot easier. Start with your first photo, add the second in top, erase the blurry parts of that one, add your 3rd photo, erase the blurs of that one, and when you’re done you should have a pic combining all the focus’. I am a total amateur and have just figured this out by doing so I am sure there are far better ways than what I’m doing
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
A lot has happened in the Closet since my last few entries. Let’s start of with harvests.

I harvested the ancestral skunk and copper Orgi S1 both yield well for the abuse I put them through.

next was an auto flower run.
A freebie pack I received from DCSE of Binary Selections mystery freebie seeds. Though she wasn’t a big yielder at only 38 grams but she was the easiest grow ever. I would just water with ph adjusted water and let her rock out.
I used
  • Coast of main potting soil
  • Recharge
  • All purpose plant food 5-5-5
  • Bone meal 4-12-0
  • Blood meal 12-0-0
  • Epsom salts 1Tbsp
  • Earth worm castings
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BigPretzel

In Bloom
Cloner Update

Sadly all 8 clones I placed in the cloner didn’t make it past transplant. They all had a few roots but I think I may have either transplanted them too early or the Root&Grow mixture I’ve been using was way too strong for the clones. They all got taco'd up and died. The roots even turned dark brown and died.
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
CLONING SUCCESS AT 100%
FINALLY!!!!!!

After several attempts and using multiple methods I all but gave up cloning until I figured I must of been doing something wrong that is so simple I’m not thinking I need to fix it… we’ll I think I figured it out.

Humidity/Pressure in the dome.
So everytime I tried to clone something no matter if I used aloe, IBA powder, Clonex, Foop, aspirin, or even if I put it in coco, rockwool, peat, soil, rapid or riot rooters and bubble/aero cloners. I could barely ever get the cuttings to root. For me I figured it had to be the powder/gel/aloe it couldn’t possibly be something I was doing… well after trying everything and having little luck I figured I had to be doing something wrong. Following lots of reading, the only thing I didn’t do that a lot of others did!was mist. my cuttings often and keep the dome vents closed.
I always thought plants needed air to grow so I always left the vents cracked a bit and I thought if I kept the cuttings wet they would get rot or die before they could even root.

I couldn’t of been more wrong. This last time while I was cloning a cut of Copper Orgi S1 I’ve been trying to keep around I decided to try it the exact way they said so in the cloning guide no thinking I know better just 100% listening and following instructions. So after about 6 days of keeping the root plugs moist and the foliage damp. I noticed some smooth white roots protruding from the rooting plug. Me not messing with it as much as I normally would and not taking the dome cover off unless it was to water or spray the cuttings then placing it back on immediately. This all played a big part in me getting such healthy roots on these cuttings.
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I’ll add the fully rooted pics tomorrow when I transplant them. I’m super happy with these cuts. When they get to be a little bigger they are getting flipped and reversed so one can pollinate the other two and make me more S1 seeds. Hopefully that will lock in this Chem heavy Pheno trait this cut has. I really love the Copper Orgi strain from Brisco but this cut of that strain has a very heavy Chem dominated terp profile that I just love. Probably the reason I e gone through so much trouble cloning this cut.
 
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