Discussion: Is Old School Cannabis Breeding Becoming Obsolete?

pwnytailjoe

Come As You Are
You had me nodding in agreement right up until the end lol.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
George Santayana
I live in Amish country and while I can tell you they do use horses most have started using the Mennonites to drive them around. Over the last 20 years here I see less and less buggies on the road. Also why do we never see any Amish with disabilities?
I know I'm coming across kind of hardass and douchey and that's definitely not my intention.

People are creatures of habit and generally resist change.

The question shouldn't be is old school cannabis breeding becoming obsolete, it should be 'where do we fit in to the future of cannabis breeding'

Darkheart's Pistilgaurd should be a wake up call for those paying attention and wishing to remain in the craft industry.

p.s. I'm not a breeder, nor do I have any intentions of becoming one but I feel in order to produce the best cannabis I can, I need to understand the entire process as a whole. That means hands-on learning.
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
I missed this when you posted.:ROFLMAO:

I also just had a moment of code-switching; might be a first.
Twenty-odd years ago I was a regular at a lesbian bar that was a block from my place, and I was accepted there to the point I was almost one of the girls. My friends there didn't censor themselves when I was around so I got an introduction to a lot of gay slang. The thing was, I never heard it anywhere else, and most of the words had multiple meanings, so when I hear it outside of that specific setting, woosh, over my head.

I skimmed your post originally and was like "weed breeders are straight? whachu talking 'bout Willis?" and just carried on. I actually read it this time and got a proper laugh. ?
I have gay friends so I hear the lingo too and just thought that was funny lol.

Now as for tossing out plants that don't meet certain THC requirements seems.... wasteful? I understand law enforcement and weed companies have everyone thinking that THC is all there is but if THC is literally the main thing your after, THC "Diamonds" and oil are vastly cheaper than flower, and I've not heard of any flower getting to levels over 80% so it'd be a waste of money. Shit Marinol would even be cheaper I'm guessing.

I don't really look at THC averages much personally because so many things change that number, it becomes too much of a Variable to really be useful in my opinion. My favorite strains aren't topping any THC lists as far as I know, and I'm ok with that. I'll take Blue Cheese and Chemdog over cookies all day lol.
 

SecretSquirrel

Squirrely Seed Scatterer
I know I'm coming across kind of hardass and douchey and that's definitely not my intention.

People are creatures of habit and generally resist change.

The question shouldn't be is old school cannabis breeding becoming obsolete, it should be 'where do we fit in to the future of cannabis breeding'

Darkheart's Pistilgaurd should be a wake up call for those paying attention and wishing to remain in the craft industry.

p.s. I'm not a breeder, nor do I have any intentions of becoming one but I feel in order to produce the best cannabis I can, I need to understand the entire process as a whole. That means hands-on learning.
I dont think you are coming across wrong I was just trying to get some jibber jabber going about something I know we all have different opinions on I kind of stand in the middle.
 

Frosty78

Habitabat autem somnium
Landrace and heirloom. I think you can't beat the building blocks and their old offspring.
They do all of what you say. But how good is it to be growing a plant and like its structure and obviously flavour profile and effect and think gee and think it would work great or be better with that plant. But gee both of those plants are not really good outdoors because they don't have much mold or pm resistance. Or they constantly need support in light breezes. But gee, that balkhi has a,lime expression I can put across to shore up those breeding deficiencies. Old school generally is stronger stock on those fronts.
Don't worry about what a lab is doing, make you're own Sistine chapel.
Great convo @Amarok
Always good to bounce ideas
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Oh yes! The Heirloom or pure Indica and Sativa plants ? Shut up and TAKE my money!

I think I can sort of pop in here and "swing both ways".... ;) Mainly because on one hand, I've never gotten to smoke a pure Indica yet, or a pure Sativa for that matter (I mean flowering times, not effects so we're clear on my definition of those words....)

Most of my all time favorites were essentially bred by using landraces; The Cheese line is Skunk #1, which, is some Sativa plants with.... Afghani I think ?

The Chemdog line..... Not even gonna try to guess but given how long it's been around I am going to guess at Landraces bred back and forth.

the Blue Cheese you probably already knew I was going to mention? Well, Skunk#1 X Blueberry, and Blueberry as far as I know is landraces too. Ad Mazar-I-Sharif and you have Skywalker which I also love.

On the other side of that spectrum is GMO that I also really like. Girl Scout Cookies (I'm NOT saying GSC that's dumb, fuck those kids and their cookies leave names alone!.... LOL) is the only cookies strain I've ever actually liked. And liked is an understatement but I haven't smoked it in like 8+ years because I never saw it again, but cross that with Chemdog and you have GMO, which is so interesting given how Girl Scout Cookies tasted LOL! Like how interesting is THAT??? You take something that tastes like a sweet sugar cookie, and you cross it with Chemdog and now it's Onions and Garlic haha! Fuck I love smelling these things.

I was talking to a bud tender at a dispensary one day and he said something that has stuck with me while we were bullshitting; I said that when it came to weed I'm willing to spend money on I follow my nose, and 2 genetic lines (Chem, Cheese) and he said that he felt like maybe the strains that smell the best to us do so because our bodies know which ones we need, so we have a predisposition for certain strains that end up giving us the most benefits. I don't know for sure but that made a lot of sense to me; I mean I come on here sounding perverted as fuck some days like "Oh bro let me smell your nuggets PLEASE!"..... Hahaha.

All my favorites I care the MOST about never had a lab to breed them, and then the Computer Nerd inside me sees "the toys" you can use in a lab to expand what you're looking for and actually finding it, and I can appreciate that too.... I would like a job doing this one day, and if I get laughed out of the interview room because I don't have experience in breeding I can always backdoor their servers and force them to make 300 Cheese crosses for me right? :) LOL.
 
The question shouldn't be is old school cannabis breeding becoming obsolete, it should be 'where do we fit in to the future of cannabis breeding'

right there. been trying to figure that out for quite some time. and pistilguard remind anyone else of the mystical terminator gene? sorry to rejack this thread, but this is one i missed.

Don't worry about what a lab is doing, make you're own Sistine chapel.

and there's the answer. not interested in competing with anyone for hot bling bag sales. just makin sand castles.

Queen Elizabeth Beach GIF by 60 Second Docs
 

pwnytailjoe

Come As You Are
right there. been trying to figure that out for quite some time. and pistilguard remind anyone else of the mystical terminator gene? sorry to rejack this thread, but this is one i missed.



and there's the answer. not interested in competing with anyone for hot bling bag sales. just makin sand castles.

Queen Elizabeth Beach GIF by 60 Second Docs
Darkheart's clone division is dead so Pistilguard is at least for the time being, on hold.
I remember an article several years back in a newspaper that discussed something similar to the terminator gene from a company called Celpril. Don't know if it's the same thing but never heard anything else after that. Would have been sometime around 2002-04 probably.
 
Darkheart's clone division is dead so Pistilguard is at least for the time being, on hold.
I remember an article several years back in a newspaper that discussed something similar to the terminator gene from a company called Celpril. Don't know if it's the same thing but never heard anything else after that. Would have been sometime around 2002-04 probably.

i always assumed it was a monsanto invention but it looks like MON only acquired the patents through purchasing the creator companies. proteins interfering with rna from what i can tell skimming through the articles. also looks like MON has not used this technology for public release as of yet. at least in food crops...

triploids are an additional process i cannot wrap my head around. not to mention those plants would be/should be royal PITAs to care for. kinda glad this pistilguard thing is on pause, but starting to feel the need for stashing genes. gonna have to get my :poop: together.
 
Top Bottom