F@&$ Crypto

InfiniteIndo

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Bitcoin is still a good long term investment.. I just bought some ANKR today because it's the cheapest coin on Coinbase Pro.. pretty inevitable for it to hit at least 30 cents or so. I've watched it happen with every other coin that's been on CB pro at that low of a price..
 
Well, I'm officially done now.

Flat out ripped off by BitBuy Exchange in Canada. So much for trusting my fellow "Canucks".

I'm glad I tried my EOS coins before my BitCoin, so I was able to cancel the transfer from CoinBase.

They just flat out stole $57 from me. I know that isn't much, but that's a bad sign on my first deposit into their EOS wallet.

And those motherfuckers from that BitCoin link I tried the other day will NOT STOP calling me. Two missed calls every morning, about 5 a.m. I'm gonna come massively uncunted, really fucking soon.
 
Bitcoin is still a good long term investment.. I just bought some ANKR today because it's the cheapest coin on Coinbase Pro.. pretty inevitable for it to hit at least 30 cents or so. I've watched it happen with every other coin that's been on CB pro at that low of a price..
At this point I don't trust a single exchange. Coinbase seems to be the most trustworthy one I've tried, and it is a pain to get your money from them in Canada, if you can at all.

The Canadian exchange options are shit and super expensive. ShakePay sucks, only has BTC and ETH, and is pricey as shit. BitBuy has more coins, but not many, and just flat out steals your money when they feel like it, on top of ridiculous deposit, withdraw and transaction fees. CoinBerry I didn't even try after reading extremely scathing reviews. That's pretty much it for Canadian options.

I'd love to make a passive income with it, but with fees, and now ripoffs, I'm out. I lost all the money I gained in 3 days in a matter of seconds because BitBuy is a bunch of thieving cunts and won't reply to emails except for the standard auto reply.

Bricks of blow are looking more and more like a reasonable option these days.
 

thesunnyvalekid

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I feel your pain, I have been investing or dabbled in (stocks, crypto, IRA, bonds) for the last 20 years or so and I feel crypto was a good investment years ago, but when they started splintering into other crypto (Lite coin, Etherum, Dogecoin and so on) it changed from a pure investment to a currency with very few ways to spend it without paying a fee, like the dollar and taxes. I have never made much profit (profit or gains is all we want with investments) with crypto the fees will eat up profits just by moving it around, unless you have millions to invest or you mined them long ago when it was cheap and had low or no fees. The best profits I ever made were from the stock market. No lie, I know stocks are an up and down game, but there is money to be made short selling, swing trading, holding long on stocks that pay dividends.

When I first invested in stocks it was a fundamental based market where value was based on how the company preformed in their particular market sector, based on quarters in the year. Now it is more of a speculative market based on what investors feel. (I feel this is based on younger investors not caring about the actual value of said investment or company) That is why there is wild speculation on crypto and the market in general. Most investors in crypto do not use it as currency they use it as leverage to borrow against for other investments, that’s how the big boys do it, you think Twitter or Tesla use their crypto to buy anything, no they use it to bank money tax free, they have no intention of selling. That’s the only advantage over traditional investments, tax free.

Now back to the simple man, I use Robinhood now, I was with Fidelity for 15 years before I jumped ship, why? fees. I use Robinhood like a bank account they give you a debit card, you can buy and sell stocks, crypto, some EFT’s with no fees and spend the money immediately. When I find a good buy, I set a goal of profit when I reach that goal I sell and move on, I keep long term investments like GE, Apple, Amazon and swing and short mostly bio stocks now with the pandemic.(Bio sectors are hot due to pandemic and everyone worried about their health).

Why invest in something you cannot sell or use as cash, why pay fees when it’s your money they charge you to use? Now one point to stress is you will pay capital gains tax on profits at the end of year, but you already pay taxes on every dollar you earn when you work so it’s nothing new.

One has to really look at why they want to invest in crypto and what they intend to do with it.

GameStop would be an example of ridiculous money to be made in the stock market based on emotional investing, the company is not worth what the stock price is right now, yet you could have been a millionaire playing that stock a while back, if you bought it cheap and sold high.

Sorry to ramble just my two cents on the topic.
 

InfiniteIndo

In Bloom
At this point I don't trust a single exchange. Coinbase seems to be the most trustworthy one I've tried, and it is a pain to get your money from them in Canada, if you can at all.

The Canadian exchange options are shit and super expensive. ShakePay sucks, only has BTC and ETH, and is pricey as shit. BitBuy has more coins, but not many, and just flat out steals your money when they feel like it, on top of ridiculous deposit, withdraw and transaction fees. CoinBerry I didn't even try after reading extremely scathing reviews. That's pretty much it for Canadian options.

I'd love to make a passive income with it, but with fees, and now ripoffs, I'm out. I lost all the money I gained in 3 days in a matter of seconds because BitBuy is a bunch of thieving cunts and won't reply to emails except for the standard auto reply.

Bricks of blow are looking more and more like a reasonable option these days.
How is it a pain to get your money exactly? Can Canadians have American bank accounts?
 
I feel your pain, I have been investing or dabbled in (stocks, crypto, IRA, bonds) for the last 20 years or so and I feel crypto was a good investment years ago, but when they started splintering into other crypto (Lite coin, Etherum, Dogecoin and so on) it changed from a pure investment to a currency with very few ways to spend it without paying a fee, like the dollar and taxes. I have never made much profit (profit or gains is all we want with investments) with crypto the fees will eat up profits just by moving it around, unless you have millions to invest or you mined them long ago when it was cheap and had low or no fees. The best profits I ever made were from the stock market. No lie, I know stocks are an up and down game, but there is money to be made short selling, swing trading, holding long on stocks that pay dividends.

When I first invested in stocks it was a fundamental based market where value was based on how the company preformed in their particular market sector, based on quarters in the year. Now it is more of a speculative market based on what investors feel. (I feel this is based on younger investors not caring about the actual value of said investment or company) That is why there is wild speculation on crypto and the market in general. Most investors in crypto do not use it as currency they use it as leverage to borrow against for other investments, that’s how the big boys do it, you think Twitter or Tesla use their crypto to buy anything, no they use it to bank money tax free, they have no intention of selling. That’s the only advantage over traditional investments, tax free.

Now back to the simple man, I use Robinhood now, I was with Fidelity for 15 years before I jumped ship, why? fees. I use Robinhood like a bank account they give you a debit card, you can buy and sell stocks, crypto, some EFT’s with no fees and spend the money immediately. When I find a good buy, I set a goal of profit when I reach that goal I sell and move on, I keep long term investments like GE, Apple, Amazon and swing and short mostly bio stocks now with the pandemic.(Bio sectors are hot due to pandemic and everyone worried about their health).

Why invest in something you cannot sell or use as cash, why pay fees when it’s your money they charge you to use? Now one point to stress is you will pay capital gains tax on profits at the end of year, but you already pay taxes on every dollar you earn when you work so it’s nothing new.

One has to really look at why they want to invest in crypto and what they intend to do with it.

GameStop would be an example of ridiculous money to be made in the stock market based on emotional investing, the company is not worth what the stock price is right now, yet you could have been a millionaire playing that stock a while back, if you bought it cheap and sold high.

Sorry to ramble just my two cents on the topic.
I just refuse to touch the stock market. I understand crypto, as pissed off at it as I am right now, I get what it's about. And I can read what's going on with the industry and so far, even though I never invested in them, a few of my picks massively spiked within 24 hrs. Easily could have made $1000 or so that day. So I can see I can do this if it wasn't for all the other BS.
But I don't have patience for all these transfer fees and now being ripped off.

But the stock market? No. I won't touch it. I don't know enough about economics and I don't have enough time to study various industries and how they correlate with eachother, and market trends blah blah blahs etc.
I know I'll just lose, so I don't bother.

I'm pretty much done with giving other people my money. I'm gonna cash out my BitCoin from CoinBase, if they even release it, and then I'm out. Tell you the truth I don't even want my money in my bank anymore, I don't trust those losers either. The fees are retarded and then they cap me with this, won't let me use my credit card for that.....Ugh.

"fuck you, it's my money you cocksuckers"
 
How is it a pain to get your money exactly? Can Canadians have American bank accounts?
Nope. Not as far as I know. I have to use PayPal.....which I've also been hearing a whole lot of, they will randomly keep the money if they feel like it and just close your PayPal account. So I pay transfer fees, then PayPal fees....hoping I even get it.

That's why I went to the CDN exchange, because they direct deposit......direct deposit what they don't steal from you that is.

I don't get it. Everyone has barely any issues it seems and here I am with nothing but trouble. But that's par for my life so maybe I shouldn't be so upset.....I've literally been called a "walking talking shit magnet" by my friends lol
 

InfiniteIndo

In Bloom
Nope. Not as far as I know. I have to use PayPal.....which I've also been hearing a whole lot of, they will randomly keep the money if they feel like it and just close your PayPal account. So I pay transfer fees, then PayPal fees....hoping I even get it.

That's why I went to the CDN exchange, because they direct deposit......direct deposit what they don't steal from you that is.

I don't get it. Everyone has barely any issues it seems and here I am with nothing but trouble. But that's par for my life so maybe I shouldn't be so upset.....I've literally been called a "walking talking shit magnet" by my friends lol
I'm honestly not familiar with the process for a Canadian but I feel like you gotta be doing something wrong.. Coinbase doesn't let you set up your bank account? I use Coinbase Pro primarily.. the fees aren't so bad on there.. plain old Coinbase though.. yeah pretty bad fees.

I use Coinbase Pro mainly because it allows you to instantly use the money you withdraw from your account onto Coinbase Pro..
 
I'm honestly not familiar with the process for a Canadian but I feel like you gotta be doing something wrong.. Coinbase doesn't let you set up your bank account? I use Coinbase Pro primarily.. the fees aren't so bad on there.. plain old Coinbase though.. yeah pretty bad fees.

I use Coinbase Pro mainly because it allows you to instantly use the money you withdraw from your account onto Coinbase Pro..
Nope. Doing nothing wrong. PayPal is the only option for Canadians
 
I'm honestly not familiar with the process for a Canadian but I feel like you gotta be doing something wrong.. Coinbase doesn't let you set up your bank account? I use Coinbase Pro primarily.. the fees aren't so bad on there.. plain old Coinbase though.. yeah pretty bad fees.

I use Coinbase Pro mainly because it allows you to instantly use the money you withdraw from your account onto Coinbase Pro..
As a Canadian, I can deposit with debit, or transfer current assets to Coinbase from another exchange.

My credit card is blocked by my bank, and withdrawal is not possible thru debit....conveniently.
 
Well, now my EOS is deposited into BitBuy, but only after an email threatening "a campaign of shock and awe social media warfare" lol. Total bluff but it worked. And I know it was because of this....EOS is a fast transfer coin. It should be near instant, not 24 hrs.

But guess what. Now CoinBase won't let me move my BitCoin anywhere. Immediate hold on it. Lol! Fugggggg!

This is crypto for ya. Good luck to all who invest, but I am the fuck out once I get my money withdrawn for the coins I have. What a waste of time, effort and money that was.
 

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Crypto is great for buying things at discount, and for purchases you’d like to make anonymously (see Monero).

just make sure you own the crypto and you’re not leasing it through a whatamacallet. Coinbase and those places. Platforms? Lol
 
Oh I see your problem you’re using coinbase. I use cash at atm’s only. The convenience makes the fees worth it.
Compared to these Canadian moose cunt exchanges, Coinbase is a walk in the park, even despite the recent hold on my assets.

The only good thing I've seen with the ones up here, if you can call it that, is that BitBuy does this instant verification. Somehow the info I input into the fields was able to be checked with a 3rd party, and I was verified instantly without photo ID, or bank statements or anything. But a total nightmare after that. Kind of concerning though, who are they verifying this shit with? Ugh.

And I don't even think there are crypto ATMs in Canada, certainly not where I live.

Yeah I'm out. What a sham this whole thing has been
 
Crypto is great for buying things at discount, and for purchases you’d like to make anonymously (see Monero).

just make sure you own the crypto and you’re not leasing it through a whatamacallet. Coinbase and those places. Platforms? Lol
Ok. But where do I buy it? I have to buy it on an exchange, right?

And then I pay fees and more fees and even more fees just to put it into a cold wallet.

Or am I missing another way of buying crypto and avoiding these shitheads and their ass rape fees?
 

InfiniteIndo

In Bloom
As a Canadian, I can deposit with debit, or transfer current assets to Coinbase from another exchange.

My credit card is blocked by my bank, and withdrawal is not possible thru debit....conveniently.
That's lame.. US has it's benefits after all I guess.. lol. Your debit card won't allow you to deposit? I'm a bit confused on that part
 
That's lame.. US has it's benefits after all I guess.. lol. Your debit card won't allow you to deposit? I'm a bit confused on that part
It even shows it right here.

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And if you search "withdraw Canada" there is literally no support link.

I'm betting it has to do with currency exchange rates, but that's a guess.

It's a joke. The whole thing. It may be great for Americans, but, as usual, Canadians get fucked. We get fucked with everything. I remember one American guy bitching about having to spend "$30 to fill up" his car. 30 bucks lmao!

My Pathfinder has been in the $90-100 dollars range to fill up for nearly a decade now. You have a pickup? $150 at least.

We get fucked for everything and they do it because "Canadians are nice".
I hope to destroy that annoying trope one day.
 

InfiniteIndo

In Bloom
It even shows it right here.

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And if you search "withdraw Canada" there is literally no support link.

I'm betting it has to do with currency exchange rates, but that's a guess.

It's a joke. The whole thing. It may be great for Americans, but, as usual, Canadians get fucked. We get fucked with everything. I remember one American guy bitching about having to spend "$30 to fill up" his car. 30 bucks lmao!

My Pathfinder has been in the $90-100 dollars range to fill up for nearly a decade now. You have a pickup? $150 at least.

We get fucked for everything and they do it because "Canadians are nice".
I hope to destroy that annoying trope one day.

It says you can buy the crypto directly with your card... I'm guessing you don't wanna do that. Stuff like this is just dumb.. Figure it out and stop making it so hard on our Canadian friends. Well.. Coinbase is going public on the stock market soon so.. maybe just invest in Coinbase lol
 

InfiniteIndo

In Bloom
@DavidDellaRocco If you're able to buy btc on cashapp I suggest you just do that. I did that at one point.. not sure why really because I could have just used Coinbase Pro.. The fees will be kinda eh.. But you'll make your money back if you buy during a dip (always buy during a dip)
 
It says you can buy the crypto directly with your card... I'm guessing you don't wanna do that. Stuff like this is just dumb.. Figure it out and stop making it so hard on our Canadian friends. Well.. Coinbase is going public on the stock market soon so.. maybe just invest in Coinbase lol
Buying isn't the problem. Cashing out is.

Oh they LOOOOOVE taking my money, they just won't cough it back up.

But hey....thanks for that tip about them going public, I had no idea. Maybe I will dive into the stock market a little lol.

@DavidDellaRocco If you're able to buy btc on cashapp I suggest you just do that. I did that at one point.. not sure why really because I could have just used Coinbase Pro.. The fees will be kinda eh.. But you'll make your money back if you buy during a dip (always buy during a dip)

I found one called CashApp but it had nothing to do with crypto that I saw.

Perhaps I was in too much of a huff and a hurry, and too pissed off yesterday and just missed the crypto part. I was getting pretty hot lol. I'll look at it again, thanks
 
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