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I soak in spring water normally. Sometimes add humic acid and Ruby Fulvic from New Millenium. Up to 24hrs, theoretically, usually between 12 and 18hrs before wet paper towel between plates on cable box. Never have issues with seeds once they pop but recently have had more than normal not do anything. Popped 16 seeds in last 2 weeks and 4 did nothing(2 Legend OG & 2 Blueberry) With three of them my impatience got the better of me and I tormented them to death. One I'm still holding out Hope. Its one of the 2 Blueberry F5's. Really really hope it springs to life. Very impatient with seeds. My Achilles heel.