Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
But dino , u aren't a good time ? Or was that not ur number in the stall ?
How can I Increase my Autoflower Yeilds? I was told today I am doing something seriously wrong and I would like to fix it with help.
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Inferno Mike
In Bloom
Dino Party
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GOD DAMNIT THAT DUDE IS AT IT AGAIN.
Willie
🍓 Crush Genetics 🍓
Auto's look good on paper....well initially they do but if you actually crunch the numbers between auto's and photo clones, the clones win in a landslide. And on all fronts, ymmv.
Ever read Grow Diaries and all these folks getting 27 zips off auto's in 8 weeks in a solo cup???
Yup, bring yer shovel when reading over there, bs is piled high. lol
Particularly high where FastBuds is concerned..............I am not worthy, apparently or my packs didn't come with the decoder ring or the map to the secret handshake............ but 2 zips would be a big plant
Ever read Grow Diaries and all these folks getting 27 zips off auto's in 8 weeks in a solo cup???
Yup, bring yer shovel when reading over there, bs is piled high. lolParticularly high where FastBuds is concerned..............I am not worthy, apparently or my packs didn't come with the decoder ring or the map to the secret handshake............
but 2 zips would be a big plant
Dino Party
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lol I saw some kid on Instagram trying to say his auto plant was 35%indica 65% sativa LOL
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Zero ruderalis lol.
Dino Party
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Lol yeah I just had to walk away from that one.
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Some peeps have hard times with clones. I usually get two to three indoors but they can get really big outside. And obviously u can do multiple runs. I don't discriminate lol. Well... I do actually ,not a big fan of 13 week strains .Auto's look good on paper....well initially they do but if you actually crunch the numbers between auto's and photo clones, the clones win in a landslide. And on all fronts, ymmv.
Ever read Grow Diaries and all these folks getting 27 zips off auto's in 8 weeks in a solo cup???
Particularly high where FastBuds is concerned..............I am not worthy, apparently or my packs didn't come with the decoder ring or the map to the secret handshake............
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
cloning even germinating seeds is all about following instructions and don’t play god and think you can reinvent the wheel
i could easily make 1000’s of clones from clippings per week if I wanted and still get 95%+ or more root snd be healthy( not bragging but anyone could they they do a good protocol of such ) . it’s all about being clean while doing it and following the rules of how not to get fucked on the process.
Example of a bad cook that does same issues, doesnt follow the instructions, working on contaminated surfaces , not following the steps of what has to be applied or mixed in by step and walks away from the oven or stove when it says you gotta stir everything and watch it, than wait till the fire alarm is going off and then blame the cook cook or person who gave them the meal instructions cause it didn’t work outand say it’s too hard..
when I used to get lower % of success from clones and seeds, it made me anal and ocd of why? you gotta be like a dr to your patients and do you think the dr comes in for the appointment without follow prorate and prevention ? treat your clippings and seedlings like a first stage surgery and know they are vulnerable to virus to molds to pest and not becoming healthy.
i could easily make 1000’s of clones from clippings per week if I wanted and still get 95%+ or more root snd be healthy( not bragging but anyone could they they do a good protocol of such ) . it’s all about being clean while doing it and following the rules of how not to get fucked on the process.
Example of a bad cook that does same issues, doesnt follow the instructions, working on contaminated surfaces , not following the steps of what has to be applied or mixed in by step and walks away from the oven or stove when it says you gotta stir everything and watch it, than wait till the fire alarm is going off and then blame the cook cook or person who gave them the meal instructions cause it didn’t work outand say it’s too hard..
when I used to get lower % of success from clones and seeds, it made me anal and ocd of why? you gotta be like a dr to your patients and do you think the dr comes in for the appointment without follow prorate and prevention ? treat your clippings and seedlings like a first stage surgery and know they are vulnerable to virus to molds to pest and not becoming healthy.
thesunnyvalekid
Boutique Auto Service
Ok, I have read the posts and will give my honest two cents. My early experience is Photos grown outside. My nature is to run after the best new thing, in the cannabis world the newest plants or cultivars are Autoflowers (Freakshow by Humboldt seed company is a mutation) so like others I chased this new thing to learn about it. I started with Mephisto strains, first year yields were terrible, problem with autos I learned is in Veg, they have a genetic predetermined time to flower, you as the grower cannot control this like photos. This leads to limited ability to fully mature in vegetation in my experience. I feel pot size is irrelevant to yield, you only have 60-80 days of plant life why spend 30 days growing roots and have a 12 inch plant going into flower.
Now like others I tried 3,5,10 gallon pots but did not increase yield, I had huge root balls two and a half foot tall plants after stretch maybe. Some would shoot up, lanky long internode length, maybe harvesting 2oz. the high side.(Early on some of Mephisto strains had huge variations some plants were tall some short, they are more stable now).
The highest yields were in 2 gallon pots, in coco and worm castings only, no perlite. Watered to runoff, once a day up to 30 days increased to twice a day after that. Cannabis grown in coco should be viewed as if you are growing in hydroponics the more water the faster it grows, coco is not soil, it is more like a wick or a sponge, it soaks up water and the roots wick it away. In my experience you cannot over water coco, PH stability in coco is by far the greatest way to improve yields and over all fast veg growth. Vegetation growth should be your main goal with autos.
Another aspect is over feeding, huge amounts of nutrients will not always grow the biggest plant, I always tell my son when he looks in the tent that I’m not trying to grow leaves and stems, I’m growing buds. Autos do not need nutrients like photos do, they need enough is all. In my experience I watch the Nitrogen, why? Many nutrients overuse it, for instance Cal/Mag the go to fix all stuff, all or most have nitrogen, perhaps just 1% (exceptions: I use Roots Organics cal\mag which has no nitrogen) autos don’t need all that N they are not in veg long enough to benefit from it. Even amounts of NKP in the first 30-50 days until complete flower set, any flower nutrients or high KP before this are yield killers. I do use Roots Organics Oregonism XL similar to recharge for a overall health enhancer top dressed every other week for first 60 days, I also use Roots Organics Soul Line as my base nutrients on all my plants, garden plants, house plants all, for years now. I’m very familiar with it and use it on a variety of plants. ( no, I don’t work or have affiliation with the company) I like their products that’s all cuz they work for me and my environment. After flower set I change over to flower nutrients until they finish. Another thing about PH, autos like PH in veg in coco a little lower than the standard 6.5 I can get great growth with 6.0-6.3 PH in the first 30-50 days the slowly raise it to 6.5, i water to flood every time, in coco salts build up daily, you need to flush that out or your PH at root level will suffer and yield will suffer, with autos you cannot switch back the lights and put them back in veg like photos. Once you affect growth in veg with autos in any way the setback will be in flower.
Another technique, I do not top autos, I pinch leaves that cover bud sites in veg then when flower sets, I remove all bud sites below the first 12 inches of the plants, and any sucker branches. Why do this? to slow it down a bit, kinda shocks it for a day or two, also only the top best bud sites are left for flower production, this causes the plant to focus on only the flowers left, they get maximum light and nutrients it can double yield this way.
I use QB boards HLG the brand I prefer they produce very little heat, which can kill yield, some I have read seem to think heat plays a factor in growth and yield but you have to understand leaf temperatures to grasp why you need to raise the heat when using LEDs my autoflower tent runs at 85-87 thoughout the daytime lights on, some say this is to hot, in the early days of streetlight MH grows I would run temps as high as 90 with no burnt tops or wilted plants, it’s all in ventilation and air movement. As long as you have air movement in the tent, and air exchange, inlet-outlet plants will do just fine. I also keep a fan running in the tent during lights out, this I feel keeps humidity even while the plant is utilizing its daylong stored nutrients. I run a 18 on 6 off light schedule until it’s week 4 of flower, then I switch the lights to a 16 on 8 off schedule. Why? Well I found some autos would not flower or some would not finish completely so like with photos, it forces them to, with autos it also slows down flowering, and mimics nature’s waning light, this I found can increase size and density of the flowers. Not in all cases cuz plants like humans are individuals every one’s different.
Well that’s my two cents of experience on autoflowers, I still prefer photo period plants, but I’m a sucker for new trends.
Now like others I tried 3,5,10 gallon pots but did not increase yield, I had huge root balls two and a half foot tall plants after stretch maybe. Some would shoot up, lanky long internode length, maybe harvesting 2oz. the high side.(Early on some of Mephisto strains had huge variations some plants were tall some short, they are more stable now).
The highest yields were in 2 gallon pots, in coco and worm castings only, no perlite. Watered to runoff, once a day up to 30 days increased to twice a day after that. Cannabis grown in coco should be viewed as if you are growing in hydroponics the more water the faster it grows, coco is not soil, it is more like a wick or a sponge, it soaks up water and the roots wick it away. In my experience you cannot over water coco, PH stability in coco is by far the greatest way to improve yields and over all fast veg growth. Vegetation growth should be your main goal with autos.
Another aspect is over feeding, huge amounts of nutrients will not always grow the biggest plant, I always tell my son when he looks in the tent that I’m not trying to grow leaves and stems, I’m growing buds. Autos do not need nutrients like photos do, they need enough is all. In my experience I watch the Nitrogen, why? Many nutrients overuse it, for instance Cal/Mag the go to fix all stuff, all or most have nitrogen, perhaps just 1% (exceptions: I use Roots Organics cal\mag which has no nitrogen) autos don’t need all that N they are not in veg long enough to benefit from it. Even amounts of NKP in the first 30-50 days until complete flower set, any flower nutrients or high KP before this are yield killers. I do use Roots Organics Oregonism XL similar to recharge for a overall health enhancer top dressed every other week for first 60 days, I also use Roots Organics Soul Line as my base nutrients on all my plants, garden plants, house plants all, for years now. I’m very familiar with it and use it on a variety of plants. ( no, I don’t work or have affiliation with the company) I like their products that’s all cuz they work for me and my environment. After flower set I change over to flower nutrients until they finish. Another thing about PH, autos like PH in veg in coco a little lower than the standard 6.5 I can get great growth with 6.0-6.3 PH in the first 30-50 days the slowly raise it to 6.5, i water to flood every time, in coco salts build up daily, you need to flush that out or your PH at root level will suffer and yield will suffer, with autos you cannot switch back the lights and put them back in veg like photos. Once you affect growth in veg with autos in any way the setback will be in flower.
Another technique, I do not top autos, I pinch leaves that cover bud sites in veg then when flower sets, I remove all bud sites below the first 12 inches of the plants, and any sucker branches. Why do this? to slow it down a bit, kinda shocks it for a day or two, also only the top best bud sites are left for flower production, this causes the plant to focus on only the flowers left, they get maximum light and nutrients it can double yield this way.
I use QB boards HLG the brand I prefer they produce very little heat, which can kill yield, some I have read seem to think heat plays a factor in growth and yield but you have to understand leaf temperatures to grasp why you need to raise the heat when using LEDs my autoflower tent runs at 85-87 thoughout the daytime lights on, some say this is to hot, in the early days of streetlight MH grows I would run temps as high as 90 with no burnt tops or wilted plants, it’s all in ventilation and air movement. As long as you have air movement in the tent, and air exchange, inlet-outlet plants will do just fine. I also keep a fan running in the tent during lights out, this I feel keeps humidity even while the plant is utilizing its daylong stored nutrients. I run a 18 on 6 off light schedule until it’s week 4 of flower, then I switch the lights to a 16 on 8 off schedule. Why? Well I found some autos would not flower or some would not finish completely so like with photos, it forces them to, with autos it also slows down flowering, and mimics nature’s waning light, this I found can increase size and density of the flowers. Not in all cases cuz plants like humans are individuals every one’s different.
Well that’s my two cents of experience on autoflowers, I still prefer photo period plants, but I’m a sucker for new trends.
thesunnyvalekid
Boutique Auto Service
1000 watts in a 3x3, ya right, the heat alone would be overwhelming I would think.Wow 1000w in a 3x3? Dude is just blowing smoke imo. If he needs 1000w HPS to grow buds in a 3x3 he might be the one with the issues
Ps don’t believe any yield numbers you read unless you actually trust the person. Like in their grow journal for example. People throwing out numbers always exaggerate to make themselves feel better.
thesunnyvalekid
Boutique Auto Service
I consider 2oz very good for autos.
thesunnyvalekid
Boutique Auto Service
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