How can I Increase my Autoflower Yeilds? I was told today I am doing something seriously wrong and I would like to fix it with help.

Chunky Stool

Plant Destroyer
just because it grows big in a small pot does not state your going to it’s full potential or you didn’t give It unwanted stress to its ecosystem , meaning if you have inbalnces heat or dry/wetness cause your pots are being heated from your room vs a larger pot giving its insulation. Heat is the enemy to bennies‘fungi and roots don’t like it and that’s why my outdoor the pots integrated even at 100+do better than the same size above ground
Another example is in my journal (late fall round -) From 220 gal smart pot square 4x8vs 2 tables of 4x8 5 gal pots vs 15 gal “city picker” mini beds. what pot had the most stress even when numerous of the pots in the 4x8 were same pheno? Always 5 gal and my previous I had same issue. more stable medium is ways better than heated small pots ( everyone has their own views)
Just because a plant is in a large pot doesn't mean it is growing to it's full potential.

Have you ever heard of hydro? The same concept applies to mediums like pro-mix, even though most growers treat it like soil.
It's easier in coco thanks to low CEC, but peat works fine -- just gotta use lower PPM.
 

Frimpong

🔥Freak Genetics🔥
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Right now I'm growing a 'Cultazepam' that's bigger than everything else in my room -- and it's in one of the smallest pots.
Tall & lanky AF but I've got a feeling she's worth it.

When frequent watering is required, plants usually grow very fast.
Pots get crowded and may need a poke or two (aeration).
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And when it comes to nutes, Mills pays the bills.
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Sooo that plant were in a bigger pot what would happen ? I guess this all depends on the length of veg. Too many variables lol
 

Chunky Stool

Plant Destroyer
[QUOTE="Chunky Stool, postmaldelica was in a 3 gallon bag.
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Right now I'm growing a 'Cultazepam' that's bigger than everything else in my room -- and it's in one of the smallest pots.
Tall & lanky AF but I've got a feeling she's worth it.

When frequent watering is required, plants usually grow very fast.
Pots get crowded and may need a poke or two (aeration).
-- edit --
And when it comes to nutes, Mills pays the bills.
Sooo that plant were in a bigger pot what would happen ? I guess this all depends on the length of veg. Too many variables lol
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Zamaldelica doesn't need a lot of space for roots.
Also, grow bags stretch so the roots had plenty of room.

That 3 gallon grow bag was an ideal choice for this plant.
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
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Join us, we will get to the bottom of this.
I actually just filled out all my info on twenty20 today I’m excited for this!
 
Early on, when the sprout is still young, I found the best way is to water around the edges of a large pot, staying away from the main stem. If the 'dirt' around the main stem is really dry, give it a very small amount. Very small. Like drops.
Wet the outer edges of the pot and let that water draw into the core.
Do this for the first couple weeks at least. Once the plant has clearly filled the bag with roots, then start to give her shit, but until then, I always found it a balancing act.

I'll keep my opinion on autos out of this thread though....
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
Thanks for the advice everyone!! I definitely do notice that people who use QB, supersoils, and megacrop all have pretty consistently larger yields then I am having. Also I think I am letting my pots dry out too much.
I was always taught to use the “lift it” method to see how much water is in a pot. I think I’m waiting until it’s way too light though. I’ve always been more afraid of over watering than underwatering, my way of thinking needs to change there and just try to keep it at a happy medium. Not dry and not soaked.
The lights may have been another issue now that I’ve had it explained a little bit better. I tent to blast them with light but close not long. Maybe if I go for 20/4 but at the same height I will get a better result.
As far as nutrients I plan on changing them here in a few months but I want to use them all up first. Using GH flora trio right now, honestly it’s not bad At all plus I see a lot of good grows using this stuff so I don’t feel it’s the nutrients but maybe the way I am feeding my plants.
I dont go by any real schedule I more or less let the plant tell me if it’s happy. As far as I could tell I was doing great. However I may do switch there too. So many options and ideas yet I want to have a nice harvest next round.
Another thing I am seeing is really dialing in the feeding with ppm/EC measurements. I have a ppm pen but haven’t used it since I buffered my coco last (mid summer). Until yesterday I am gonna take better notes on my feeding regimen to get that really dialed in so I can get consistent results.

What I have changed/implemented so far:
?Adjusted light timer to 20/4 in the Autoflower/clones side, lowered lights to 25in From canopy for seedlings/clones 20in above canopy in veg and starting at 18in from canopy lowering gradually to maximize my light out put in Bloom. (I need to do more lighting research to get a better understanding of LED tech.
?Better watering habits— Instead of waiting until the pot is 80% lighter before watering, I am going to water when the soil is 50% lighter.
?medium change — this is the big one I think. I haven’t been using the wrong kinds soil. I get mine from Lowe’s or Home Depot and it’s normally one of the cheapest non miracle grow products I can find that isn’t all chunky and full of rocks
I have some really good potting soil I use for potted plants on my porches so I’m gonna do a 40/30/30 mix of soil/coco/perlite until I use up all this extra soil then I may go full coco or fully hydro. I have one of those DWC hydro buckets so maybe I will experiment with that too.

thank you everyone for all the tips and first hand perspectives I really appreciate it!!! ????
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
Here is my last harvest of Gelato auto flowers I got from ILGM and had a great run with I will put up the whole grow to show how there isn’t any deficiencies but this was one of my bigger autos yet it only yielded 32g dry...
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BigPretzel

In Bloom
Grow photoperiod plants. Everyone should start with photoperiod plants.

If you insist on growing moth&^$#cking autos, concentrate on root mass development early on. Bigger root equals bigger fruits, that's the key.

What's a 3'x4'? I've literally never seen a 3 foot by 4 foot tent.
I do grow photoperiod plants too I just don’t have as much trouble with them so I don’t post about them as much. I’m also still kinda new to this site and growing so I haven’t started a journal online yet.
My autos I am using to have a harvest the same time I flip my photos to flower this way I get a harvest every 2 months give it take a week or so and I can utilize my small grow space to the fullest. I usually go for autos thay go sprout to harvest in 7-10weeks 10 being the max

My definition of MY 3x4 tent:
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Inferno Mike

In Bloom
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I do grow photoperiod plants too I just don’t have as much trouble with them so I don’t post about them as much. I’m also still kinda new to this site and growing so I haven’t started a journal online yet.
My autos I am using to have a harvest the same time I flip my photos to flower this way I get a harvest every 2 months give it take a week or so and I can utilize my small grow space to the fullest. I usually go for autos thay go sprout to harvest in 7-10weeks 10 being the max

My definition of MY 3x4 tent:
View attachment 49547 It’s in my closet and I have a cloning station/seedling spot in there too.
Ah, one of those! I thought you meant a single area tent, my bad. Too bad it isn't a bit taller.

I know some folks pull good yields from autos, but I'm openly prejudiced against autoflowers in almost all cases.

However, I'm pro-you, and whatever you choose to grow.

Try to grow big roots as fast as possible and the yield will tend to reflect your success. DWC would be my suggestion. You could also do Flood and Drain, rockwool DTW, or gravity fed Blumats in coco or light soil. Make sure your air exchange is really consistent and try to minimize crowding in the understory. Those are my best suggestions for you.
 

Inferno Mike

In Bloom
I do grow photoperiod plants too I just don’t have as much trouble with them so I don’t post about them as much. I’m also still kinda new to this site and growing so I haven’t started a journal online yet.
My autos I am using to have a harvest the same time I flip my photos to flower this way I get a harvest every 2 months give it take a week or so and I can utilize my small grow space to the fullest. I usually go for autos thay go sprout to harvest in 7-10weeks 10 being the max

My definition of MY 3x4 tent:
View attachment 49547 It’s in my closet and I have a cloning station/seedling spot in there too.
I looked at the numbers a little more closely and I think you could be doing better. I think you need better genetics, Mephisto does seem to have the best autos, as others have said. You could pull 8 oz from from that tent with a single plant of the right strain in 10 weeks using DWC. Hand watered soil will hold back your growth rates, get drippers or something, at least maybe don't let them dry out completely.

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I bet my Orange Blossom Special would hit 8 oz in a five gallon bucket and a reservoir of the same size from a tiny little clone with your setup. I might try that before too long. The 4 plants in this low rent 4x4 ran 10 weeks to harvest in DWC @ 12/12 from recently rooted clones. Tops were all 6-7 foot high. Came out somewhere over an elbow. I didn't do any pruning or training to speak of. I rooted some clones in rockwool, jammed them into 6" netpot buckets with hydroton and filled the reservoir once a week until chop. I am doing coco with Blumats right now and I'm missing my DIY DWC setup.
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
I looked at the numbers a little more closely and I think you could be doing better. I think you need better genetics, Mephisto does seem to have the best autos, as others have said. You could pull 8 oz from from that tent with a single plant of the right strain in 10 weeks using DWC. Hand watered soil will hold back your growth rates, get drippers or something, at least maybe don't let them dry out completely.

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I bet my Orange Blossom Special would hit 8 oz in a five gallon bucket and a reservoir of the same size from a tiny little clone with your setup. I might try that before too long. The 4 plants in this low rent 4x4 ran 10 weeks to harvest in DWC @ 12/12 from recently rooted clones. Tops were all 6-7 foot high. Came out somewhere over an elbow. I didn't do any pruning or training to speak of. I rooted some clones in rockwool, jammed them into 6" netpot buckets with hydroton and filled the reservoir once a week until chop. I am doing coco with Blumats right now and I'm missing my DIY DWC setup.
Are these auto flowers though? Ur saying you cloned an auto and it still ran for 10 weeks? I’ve heard of cloning them but it’s super controversial. Or are you talking about photos. I’m having the most trouble with the autos. I’ve mainly been running Briscos genetics for photos lately since I have a good many of his seeds and the last two I ran both got over 6oz I’m sure I could of gotten way more but I kept them small. It’s almost like my autos aren’t getting anywhere near their full potential.
And your definitely right about needing to change my set up. I do t really have the room in there to run drippers do I? wouldn’t I need a reservoir? Once I move my grow to an actual room and not a closet, that can be an option for sure. Right now I’m trying to focus on drain to waste or at most a single bucket DWC.
I have a cheap one from Amazon my uncle got me. I have everything for it too I’m just scared to use it. Well not scared, I’ve just always been Leary on hydro. I attempted it one time I had a seedling in soil rooted then moved it to red solo cups with hydro ton in it and would pour back and fourth the water a few times a day to keep oxygen flowing. It ended up being a male so I never transferred to the bucket but ever since I haven’t tried again.
I’m going to spend the day reading and doing some research since I have nothingnolan Ed today and get my shit together a little better for this next run Binary Selections I have going right now.

here is a photo I just flipped to flower 4 days ago in that same tent. It’s doing great and the genetics aren’t anything special at all. Breeder is Cannabiezen
Strain is Goat Yogi
(Purple GoatX Second Sight) it’s train wreck/headband and blueberry/jack the ripper genetics I’m pretty sure. Could be wrong.
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Inferno Mike

In Bloom
Are these auto flowers though? Ur saying you cloned an auto and it still ran for 10 weeks? I’ve heard of cloning them but it’s super controversial. Or are you talking about photos. I’m having the most trouble with the autos. I’ve mainly been running Briscos genetics for photos lately since I have a good many of his seeds and the last two I ran both got over 6oz I’m sure I could of gotten way more but I kept them small. It’s almost like my autos aren’t getting anywhere near their full potential.
And your definitely right about needing to change my set up. I do t really have the room in there to run drippers do I? wouldn’t I need a reservoir? Once I move my grow to an actual room and not a closet, that can be an option for sure. Right now I’m trying to focus on drain to waste or at most a single bucket DWC.
I have a cheap one from Amazon my uncle got me. I have everything for it too I’m just scared to use it. Well not scared, I’ve just always been Leary on hydro. I attempted it one time I had a seedling in soil rooted then moved it to red solo cups with hydro ton in it and would pour back and fourth the water a few times a day to keep oxygen flowing. It ended up being a male so I never transferred to the bucket but ever since I haven’t tried again.
I’m going to spend the day reading and doing some research since I have nothingnolan Ed today and get my shit together a little better for this next run Binary Selections I have going right now.

here is a photo I just flipped to flower 4 days ago in that same tent. It’s doing great and the genetics aren’t anything special at all. Breeder is Cannabiezen
Strain is Goat Yogi
(Purple GoatX Second Sight) it’s train wreck/headband and blueberry/jack the ripper genetics I’m pretty sure. Could be wrong.
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No; Sorry, no not autos, just saying I know you can get better yields.

You can put a res outside the tent, that's how I prefer to do it. I was just throwing out ideas, sorry to disappear for a couple days.
 

Frimpong

🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Thi
Are these auto flowers though? Ur saying you cloned an auto and it still ran for 10 weeks? I’ve heard of cloning them but it’s super controversial. Or are you talking about photos. I’m having the most trouble with the autos. I’ve mainly been running Briscos genetics for photos lately since I have a good many of his seeds and the last two I ran both got over 6oz I’m sure I could of gotten way more but I kept them small. It’s almost like my autos aren’t getting anywhere near their full potential.
And your definitely right about needing to change my set up. I do t really have the room in there to run drippers do I? wouldn’t I need a reservoir? Once I move my grow to an actual room and not a closet, that can be an option for sure. Right now I’m trying to focus on drain to waste or at most a single bucket DWC.
I have a cheap one from Amazon my uncle got me. I have everything for it too I’m just scared to use it. Well not scared, I’ve just always been Leary on hydro. I attempted it one time I had a seedling in soil rooted then moved it to red solo cups with hydro ton in it and would pour back and fourth the water a few times a day to keep oxygen flowing. It ended up being a male so I never transferred to the bucket but ever since I haven’t tried again.
I’m going to spend the day reading and doing some research since I have nothingnolan Ed today and get my shit together a little better for this next run Binary Selections I have going right now.

here is a photo I just flipped to flower 4 days ago in that same tent. It’s doing great and the genetics aren’t anything special at all. Breeder is Cannabiezen
Strain is Goat Yogi
(Purple GoatX Second Sight) it’s train wreck/headband and blueberry/jack the ripper genetics I’m pretty sure. Could be wrong.
View attachment 49744
This thing is awesome ?
 

BigPretzel

In Bloom
No; Sorry, no not autos, just saying I know you can get better yields.

You can put a res outside t6he tent, that's how I prefer to do it. I was just throwing out ideas, sorry to disappear for a couple days.
Oh ok yeah your right I need to get creative and see how I could make one fit. I may end up getting another tent next week but a regular one I don’t like this three tier one. I’m thinking of a 4x4 or 3x3
Don’t worry about disappearing.. you ! It’s all good man!
 

Frimpong

🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Oh ok yeah your right I need to get creative and see how I could make one fit. I may end up getting another tent next week but a regular one I don’t like this three tier one. I’m thinking of a 4x4 or 3x3
Don’t worry about disappearing.. you ! It’s all good man!
Always go bigger if u can ?
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
IPM Forum Moderator
A bigger tent if you have space has so many advantages , I’ll give ya a few examples

be able to de-leaf , lollipop more efficient , ipm scan + foliar coverage and hermie and maturity of bud examining for maturity = if you can have the plants in the main zone of tent but be able to stand or sit around the whole square you can be able to do all of it np and not be in a downfall of not being able to see everything or work in that 360. more space when your cramping plants also can be a issue for molds or pests , virus being able to conquer you. So having your plants being able to have more air and Co2 and spacing is a huge benefit .

If you wanna grow 4x4, get a 5x5 or bigger so you can do what I’m suggesting ( if it was me )
 
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