Jacks 321

Dino Party

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Bro things are definitely getting crazier by the second it always pays to be ready for a crash
Food hoarding tip... (no joke)....

Get lots of rice...get it in the big sacks...use your vac sealer to seal it air tight...bug proof in smaller bags.
Dried beans too.

Rice and beans....after a year we will kill everyone ...but you can live on it.
Gotta say I appreciate that I can mention preparedness like this and not be treated like a crazy doomsday prepper.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
Staff member
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Gotta say I appreciate that I can mention preparedness like this and not be treated like a crazy doomsday prepper.
As someone who worked seasonally, I learned long ago to plan for ups and downs in budgets. I could probably go six months without shopping right now with only minor inconvenience. Food, clothing, toiletries, grow supplies(inc Jack's), all are bought in bulk.
Add in the ability to hunt and fish and I'm not worried about surviving. I don't consider myself a prepper, just pragmatic.

Naw, you're in good company, brother. If you're crazy, you're in the right asylum.?
 

M48

Kill Factory Floor Hand
Gotta say I appreciate that I can mention preparedness like this and not be treated like a crazy doomsday prepper.
Nothing crazy about preparing for the worst. We loose power a month or so it's gonna be really crazy. We are looking at possible nuclear war as we speak . I think if your not looking at all sides you will be in a bad way real fast.
 

Dino Party

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Yeah I think a lot of people don't realize that after WWII we really came to live in a time of unprecedented prosperity. Those same take a lot of modern comforts, like plumbing and running water, hell even clean water, for granted. As hard as the loss of those would be, I can't imagine the war between neighbors over resources like food for thier kids. But when we've treated our planet and our species growth as we have, we're bound to hit a wall eventually.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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Yeah I think a lot of people don't realize that after WWII we really came to live in a time of unprecedented prosperity.
I had 3 grandparents that lived through what they all called "the Dirty Thirties" on the Alberta prairie. The fourth was in the UK during the German Blitz. I grew up on the stories of hardship and making do.
Thrift, preparedness and handling shit myself is part of my DNA.
 

greyfader

In Bloom
instead of buying an extra product you can just change the ratios of the 3-2-1 to 4-2-.5 as someone above mentioned and not have to buy an extra product.

i have used this several times from weeks 4-6 in recirculating hydro and it seems to work as well as any of the bloom booster formulas i've tried.

my last run i tried 5-2.5-1 for weeks 4-5-6 and it seemed to work well.

i changed out the solution before and after the application.
 
The 1 part Epsom aka mag/sulfur is mainly to make sure the plants getting enough magnesium, the part A has both mag and sulfur in it already so i just run 3 2 1 I veg if the plants need the mag if not I'll run 3 2 at 2.2 ec vs 2 ec with the 321, in flower I cut the Epsom and go to the 4 2 ratio also at 2.2 ec upping the ec a few tics gets them plenty of P K S and Mag via the part A, been following greengenes for a long time and running jacks for about 2 years now with great results, grab it by the 25lb bag if possible it's getting expensive to where athena is a close second choice with a tad more tune ability Screenshot_20221020-210539_Adobe Acrobat.jpg
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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The 1 part Epsom aka mag/sulfur is mainly to make sure the plants getting enough magnesium, the part A has both mag and sulfur in it already so i just run 3 2 1 I veg if the plants need the mag if not I'll run 3 2 at 2.2 ec vs 2 ec with the 321, in flower I cut the Epsom and go to the 4 2 ratio also at 2.2 ec upping the ec a few tics gets them plenty of P K S and Mag via the part A, been following greengenes for a long time and running jacks for about 2 years now with great results, grab it by the 25lb bag if possible it's getting expensive to where athena is a close second choice with a tad more tune ability View attachment 140130
Thanks for that. I've had my bag so long, can't remember the last time I actually looked at the label. Feeling kinda dumb.
 

Dino Party

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Question for y'all. So when I mix, I usually get a mason jar of hot water, dissolve part a in it fully, then part b, then the salts, and then I mix in with my larger resevoirof water. I now see on the back of the bags, they say to mix them all individually, and then add together. I've been seeing some issues with pH drift a day after in the water if I have some left over, but even after a couple hours of being mixed and sitting, my pH will be pretty consistent. Like, it wont raise before 24 hours or so. Wondering if the two issues are related. Going to try doing it exactly as they suggest from here on out. Dunno How I missed that haha.
 

sportyridr

In Bloom
Question for y'all. So when I mix, I usually get a mason jar of hot water, dissolve part a in it fully, then part b, then the salts, and then I mix in with my larger resevoirof water. I now see on the back of the bags, they say to mix them all individually, and then add together. I've been seeing some issues with pH drift a day after in the water if I have some left over, but even after a couple hours of being mixed and sitting, my pH will be pretty consistent. Like, it wont raise before 24 hours or so. Wondering if the two issues are related. Going to try doing it exactly as they suggest from here on out. Dunno How I missed that haha.

I don't run a big reservoir so I make 5 gals at a time. (gotta haul to 2nd flr.) Silica first, then I always mix A & C together at the same time in the same 5 gal bucket. After mixing well by hand and by small pump I add B and fully dissolve and then whatever else you're using.

I do use hot water in winter when its coming out barely 60* lol.

My pH with Jack's never moves ,my starting RO is about 10 ppm. If I blend with our nasty tap water I get pH drift upwards. The full mix with RO water finishes about 5.4ish and I have to pH up to 5.8. Kinda wish I had a slow drift at times from 5.6 up to 6.1 so we catch as many nutes as possible along the way :)

Is there something else in your add ins that could interfere. I do find I get precipitate if I don't take time and mix things right and even more so in colder months if I don't allow ample time.

Hope you get it sorted man.
 

Dino Party

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I don't run a big reservoir so I make 5 gals at a time. (gotta haul to 2nd flr.) Silica first, then I always mix A & C together at the same time in the same 5 gal bucket. After mixing well by hand and by small pump I add B and fully dissolve and then whatever else you're using.

I do use hot water in winter when its coming out barely 60* lol.

My pH with Jack's never moves ,my starting RO is about 10 ppm. If I blend with our nasty tap water I get pH drift upwards. The full mix with RO water finishes about 5.4ish and I have to pH up to 5.8. Kinda wish I had a slow drift at times from 5.6 up to 6.1 so we catch as many nutes as possible along the way :)

Is there something else in your add ins that could interfere. I do find I get precipitate if I don't take time and mix things right and even more so in colder months if I don't allow ample time.

Hope you get it sorted man.
Thats pretty much exactly what Im doing right now, 5 gallons until I have a need to make the 20 gallon batches or the ebb and flow rez again. Interestingly enough, I never really had a problem with that happening in the ebb and flow rez. I wonder if the fungicide had anything to do with that? Its the only difference I can think of. I'd always pH the water/mix I was adding to it beforehand, and then confirm the range once I added it.

I think they do water tests at JR peters. It might be worth me doing one of.
 

sportyridr

In Bloom
Thats pretty much exactly what Im doing right now, 5 gallons until I have a need to make the 20 gallon batches or the ebb and flow rez again. Interestingly enough, I never really had a problem with that happening in the ebb and flow rez. I wonder if the fungicide had anything to do with that? Its the only difference I can think of. I'd always pH the water/mix I was adding to it beforehand, and then confirm the range once I added it.

I think they do water tests at JR peters. It might be worth me doing one of.

Possibly the ebb n flow gets mixed better with the extra agitaion? idk

Microbe amendments are organic so they can change pH but it's usually the pH going down from fighting with the salts.

Don't know what else you're running besides the Microbes as you never said...you never mentioned and precipitate happening so it's not from a nutrient falling out after a time and changing things?

I run a small aquarium pump in res full time in warm months, timed to come on prior to feeding and off after in winter months when I don't have to worry about the bad stuff so much. Just got two new ones as I use them for mixing, flushing, runoff pump, feeding on a timer even...I have no issues with rising pH but I'm not bubbling mix just keeping it moving a bit. Not the case with tap or blended tap.

80gph pump.jpg

I have thought about getting our well water tested from them but every time I start thinking about using tap and begin the research and the issues, I end up skipping it and sticking to the RO. If anything tho It would be nice to know just what's in our tap.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
Thats pretty much exactly what Im doing right now, 5 gallons until I have a need to make the 20 gallon batches or the ebb and flow rez again. Interestingly enough, I never really had a problem with that happening in the ebb and flow rez. I wonder if the fungicide had anything to do with that? Its the only difference I can think of. I'd always pH the water/mix I was adding to it beforehand, and then confirm the range once I added it.

I think they do water tests at JR peters. It might be worth me doing one of.
Check with your municipality too, they might have the info you need. The may be able to tell you carbonate increases in the fall or other seasonal fluctuations they might expect.
 

DemonTrich

In Bloom
Gonna have to do some reading. 13+yrs I've been dishing out top $ for technaflora nutes. I've now used up the last bottles. Been wanting to switch up to a cheaper and easier formula. But never took the plunge. I always went back to the ole adage (if it ain't broke, don't fix it). So I never swapped nutes in all that time.
 

DemonTrich

In Bloom
Thinking about scoring this

I'm in Ocean forest, clone and veg out for moms to take clones. No flowering, just veg. The above is the cheapest kit I can find for jacks 321.
 

doober

In Bloom
Thinking about scoring this

I'm in Ocean forest, clone and veg out for moms to take clones. No flowering, just veg. The above is the cheapest kit I can find for jacks 321.

That web site has some good deals in their dank deals section too πŸ‘
 
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