Good to know. I'm just looking for 9 more 3 gal so I had been considering the commercial pack to save some money, but since I'm not buying a ton I really just want quality. I'd rather spend more now than have to replace them in a yearI guess it depends on how many you need. You can also opt out of handles to save a few bucks. Ill prolly buy from Honor this time since I only need 8 more 3gs. I tried saving money buying the commercial black bags from Rain Science and they showed up missing stiches and looking like shit. The other bags were perfect tho.