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Kanzeon

In Bloom
Great line up!!
Nice to see that some of E$ko’s gear made it to your place, I’ve run the Exo’s Cerise for about two years and it was pure fire! SD riri cut was great as well!
If I remember well, I think there was a confusion between Santa Maria (Planck cut) and Exo’s Cerise when E$ko got them, as they are two distinctive clones.

Interesting. Thanks for the info! It's been difficult to find anything 100% concrete in terms of lineage but I'm stoked to grow Berry Nice Plants nonetheless. Santero is still doing work!
 

Rhacodactylus

In Bloom
No prob at all! I’ll check if I can get back some message exchanged with Exo back in the days!
Oh and if you’re interested @Kanzeon, I’ve recently contacted No Mercy Supply about their Santa Maria F8 based on the Planck cut, I can post his reply with what would be the origins of this clone (at least following NMS’s breeder).
And sure there’s seedheaven for SAN’s releases etc, they have great service I can only recommend!
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
No prob at all! I’ll check if I can get back some message exchanged with Exo back in the days!
Oh and if you’re interested @Kanzeon, I’ve recently contacted No Mercy Supply about their Santa Maria F8 based on the Planck cut, I can post his reply with what would be the origins of this clone (at least following NMS’s breeder)

Hell yeah! Absolutely. I'm always a fucking genetics nerd.

I went back and looked on OG, and E$ko said "...detailed view on the Planck cut or better known as Santa Maria." on a post about it so that's why I thought they were the same thing.
 

Rhacodactylus

In Bloom
Yeah I understand the confusion; the description given on greatlakegenetics says that the Santa Maria Planck cut is the same as the Cerise Exo cut, which is then wrong.
I can’t find it anymore on seedheaven, but the description of Berry Nice Plants said it was indeed a backross on the Cerise.

Here is what NMS breeder sent me about the Santa Maria, which you could find in NL coffee shops during the mid 2000’s if I remember well;

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Ok,… back to You and The Santa Maria’s.Well, Planck was born just after I did save (you may call it to rescue ) the Santa’s thanX to Bernt Gundersen who did bring them to me in the form of 7 clones. He was standing at 3 o’clock in the night on my door because he did not have a place to set them out in good pots under a good lamp. They were stolen by Bernt, to be honest. ( Bernt was the head redactor of HighLife magazine.) Bernt did take 1.5 years to win their trust, and after a lot of visiting this Brazilian sect, they did show him their grow room and clone room. Bernt did wear such an old big military jack with big pockets. So, the 7 clones landed in his pockets because he did know that it possible the only chance he would become to have those genetics. This because he did know already that they did not have any seed of Santa Maria’s. So they were going only on clones and didn’t know how to act to become pure, genetically 100% Santa Maria seed, since the guy who did bring them in, was not there anymore.
The story of some seedbanks and some idiots, that the Santa Maria should come forward out of a Brazilian strain, is bullshit. People here in The Netherlands did think, a Brazilian sect, Brazilian name, some crazy people who did like to give the Santa’s their own name called Planck, ( They did make a big story out of it in the media ) and that the Santa’s did have a history in Brasilia!
No no no…. that’s a story they did makeup because the strain did need a name and a founder of that strain. My investigation did bring me to California where the Santa’s for 90% sure did come from. By now I don’t see much movement anymore with the name Planck. Too many people did see already that this Planck was exactly like a Santa Maria. And they only could have found them by me.
In the beginning, this was not easy for me cause stolen….. is stolen! Well, to be honest, right now it’s even not a serious item for me anymore. They were going hard and fast over the human line as we all know. DON’T MISUSE WOMEN AND/OR CHILDREN ! They were doing crazy things with the women and children at the weekends when they had these spiritual happenings in the “Brazilian church” they did run. Well, women and children were sexually misused in a heavy way. The men who did play guilty did become a serious jail punishment.
After that…. I did not have any mercy for them and my frustration that they were stolen was gone ! The first I did anyway was manipulating 1 of them with gibberellic acid and that manipulated Santa did pollinate 3 of her sisters. That did bring me like 430 pure female Santa Maria seeds. And with that lot 100% female pure XX seeds of the mother herself ( I did keep the seeds from the mother I did manipulate, and who did also pollinate herself, apart ) It was easy to start the process of 8 times crossing back to the mother to become her genetically 100% pure in seed. I also did start a line with an inbred strain from a Mexican haze X Silver Pearl. They were inbred to F3 if I’m well. So that did bring Santa Maria X Mexican Haze # Silver Pearl. The # is standing for inbred. But a lot of people don’t understand that cultivator's sign. In the end…. That line was used for other things than bringing back the pure Santa Maria’s.
In this one, with clean XX Santa Maria seeds as they came from the founders, I did not need to keep clones of the mother alive for 5-6 –7 years in two places to spread the risk. When I did need the mother for the next step, I just did have to germinate a few of these female seeds and picking out the best-looking one from the start. Oké… I was on the point of the F6… a big surprise was waiting. In science, they learn that F6 is back to pure again. Surprise… Cannabis doesn’t have rules made by people. Cannabis should be inbred to F8 to be genetically clean again. For that wisdom, I stick my hands in a fire if I’m wrong. A funny but very nice thing that did show up was that I discovered that first with the F6 generation they did start to give serious Phenotypes. So, the F8 generation is coming forward out of inbreeding but also by a no mercy way to select the wonderful Phenol’s to move on. And that was a very well move with great thanks to mother nature. ( I will send you a photo of little Santa Maria plants during the bringing up period. Just to show you how they are similar to each other ) So, shortly it’s like : The F8 Santa’s are coming forward out of just Pheno’s. And that’s a pleasure to see if they are growing up and flowering like there’s an extra motor in them. With no special tactics but pure natural.
We did have a contest on a forum with a nice prize for the winner. The question was easy: Who can find the most strains with Santa Maria genetics in that strain !? Man…. I almost went crazy! One guy already did find almost 250 strains with Santa in it ! And then….. I did wake up ! So… no more Santa Maria for the hobby growers or just the F3. These damned seedbanks did use some “hobby growers “ to order the F3 Santa’s for hobby prices from me. I will publish the list of strains with Santa’s in their genetics in the very near future. Did you know that the first successful auto flower was the Lowrider1 that did come out a Ruderalis X Santa Maria F8 ! (That's what they claim, but at that time I even did not have F8 for sale. The Lowrider2 was again a Lowrider1 X Santa Maria "F8". They even use text and photos from my website. By now, believe me, at least 70% of all auto flowers do have Santa Maria in their genes. But by crossing and inbreeding with the F3 Santa Maria. »
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
Did a bit of chucking today!

[(Colombian Gold x Jamaican Lambsbread) x Killer Queen] x Cocoa Puffs (Chocolate Thai x Chocolate Trip)
G13 Hashplant x Cocoa Puffs
G13 Hazeplant x Cocoa Puffs
Tin Foil Hat x Cocoa Puffs
Tin Foil Hat x G13 Hazeplant
Blowfish x G13 Hazeplant

Also flipped the first of the Golden Tigers, Cocoa Puffs, and (Uzbekistan x Nepalma) ladies. Gonna go through the dudes later today and hope to find keepers of Blowfish, Goldfish, Golden Tiger, and hopefully (Uzbekistan x Nepalma). The G13 Hazeplant dude has chucked a bunch of pollen already, but I'm going to let it go another week or so before topping it and revegging again.
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
Dropped G-High today! Happy to have it joining the rest of the G13 party.

The top left bin is all dudes, the top right is plants that have yet to differentiate. Col'Jam x G13 Hashplant, Pipatxu x G13 Hazeplant, Secret Chief, and the last of the PKO's and Golden Tigers are in there. The front two bins are Guava Dawg x HP7 (left) and Motorbreath 15 x HP7, both have had rough starts.


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A better picture of the dudes. Most of them are PKO (Uzbekistan x Nepalma), but there are a few Golden Tiger, Cocoa Puffs, Blowfish, and Goldfish there too. Black Swamp Gas and Blue Dream x ON Haze dudes both got put back here for pollen collecting as well.

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The revegging/holding pattern males on the left, the females on the right.

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Late veg. Kali China is the huge one on the bottom right, G13 Hazeplant and Hashplant are in there, as are a couple more Blowfish, another Tin Foil Hat, some Purple Wrecks, and the revegging shorter-internoded G13 Hazeplant is there on the bottom.

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Half of flower. Valencian Haze is still enormous in the background, surrounded by Original Hazes and a Black Afghani (up front, shortest). Orange Gasm is showing off on the bottom right.

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The other half is looking healthy and happy, save for a few yellows here and there.

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Afgaan 90 is revegging!

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And now for a bit of bud porn.

G13 Hazeplant:

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Orange Gasm

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Silk Road Skunk. Glad I hit this with G13 Hazeplant pollen.

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Thanks for reading!
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
So only one of the Berry Nice Plants x Sanfune beans popped, but it's on its way!

Since then there's been a lot of culling of redundant dudes as well as some new fun stuff getting dropped! G-High babies are rooting, they'll get new homes in about a week. I also dropped Copa's Vale Tudo and more beans from Santero, this time [(Triangle Kush x Chocolate Diesel) x (Stardawg x Sour Diesel)].

Next to go down will probably be Pure Michigan Genetics' Pure CBD x Poison Kush, Frim's Blackberry Bread, and Motarebel's Baked Strawberry Ghash.
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
A closer look at the stretchy pheno of G13 Hazeplant.

Does really well with being topped and trained.

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A closer look at the lower bud that got hit with some Cocoa Puffs pollen.

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She's still got a couple weeks to go, but she's sticky and stacking.

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Gotta say, I feel like a proud papa looking at this picture.

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It'll be down between the 12th and 20th, most likely.
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
The rest of the grow.

The babies. Forbidden Fruitcake, G-High in the full red cup, the last Secret Chief, the lonely BNP x Sanfune, and some pepper, basil, and rosemary sprouts in the pill bottles. The newest addition, [(Triangle x Chocolate diesel) x (Stardawg x Sour D)] started to break the surface today.

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The dudes and the undifferentiated plants.

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The revegging dudes and late veg ladies.

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The late veg tent, with an opening for the next lady that I'm repotting.

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The left half of the flower closet. Valencian Haze towering in the back, Original Haze next to it, G13 Hazeplant in the wild on the bottom right.

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The right side of flower. Kali China is blowing up in front, Haze is towering over everything.

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Kanzeon

In Bloom
The Chosen One, aka the (Uzbekistan x Nepalma) stud. More pollen than his brothers, with a menthol/eucalyptus stem rub and zero autoflowering tendencies. The main selection that I did with the F1's was to eliminate those very early flowering tendencies. There are 6 of these ladies about to get flipped, and another 3-4 that need bigger pots soon. He's gonna make a lot of seeds!

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I think after this round of chucking I'll change the name to Sky Burial. It's not really (Uzbekistan x Nepalma) as much as it is (Uzbekistan x Nepalma) and (Nepalma x Uzbekistan) grown out together and blind selected for vigor, against early flowering, for terps and potency, with all of the keeper males of that generation being crossed to all of the females. That's the generation that I'm considering F1. Then I ran out a round of the generation after that last year, culling hard and selecting for all of the usual suspects, but saving 10 seeds of the original cross. The beans from the F1 round and F2 round both got dropped earlier this year, have all been sexed, and are just waiting for room in flower to be flipped.

Good thing by the end of the month there'll be room from chopping Silk Road Skunk, Haze, Valencian Haze, Orange Gasm, G13 Hashplant, Zhe Pinch, Black Afghani, and G13 Hazeplant.
 
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Kanzeon

In Bloom
So remember that Afgaan 90 with the beautiful buds? It ended up being a mediocre smoke, to the point where I'm having trouble getting myself to smoke it over the other stuff laying around. She was revegging fine, but I couldn't keep justifying the space that she took up. I think the future I'll leave the Ghani pheno hunting to other people and focus more on Hazes, sativas, and G13 crosses that do better with my physiology.

Vale Tudo went down last week, looks like they went 9/10.

Took some new pics of G13 Hazeplant, they'll be uploaded shortly. She's frosty and stinky. :D
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
Pulled an Afghani runt from the flower closet, put in the ON Haze x Wedding Cake in its place.

So I'm actually in a cool spot with the Uzbeknepanama ladies. I've got 9 ladies, one dude. One of the ladies is already in flower, but the other 8 are more or less at the same point in veg.

So, as the aforementioned G13 Hazeplant, Valencian Haze, the two more Hazes, Orange Gasm, Black Afghani, Silk Road Skunk, and Blue Dream x ON Haze plants come out of flower in the next 3 weeks, they'll go in. It'll be a nice change of pace to see all 8 side by side in flower.
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
Pulled a pretty nice selection of seeds off of the recently chopped plants today:

Silk Road Skunk x G13 Hazeplant
Haze x G13 Hazeplant
Orange Gasm x G13 Hazeplant
Lemon Citron x G13 Hazeplant
Black Afghani x G13 Hazeplant
Zhe Pinch x G13 Hazeplant

Olfactory-wise, the Orange Gasm is absolutely a standout here, it smells of orange in the best way possible. Huge fresh clementine and candied/fresh orange peel terps all day, but no gross Faygo/Sunny D notes. The G13 Hazeplant smells like roasted pineapple dipped in super glue, so there's an abundance of potential in that cross. Haven't tried the smoke yet, so it could be more disappointing than my last girlfriend. We'll see!

Silk Road Skunk is a very nice smoke. Not nice enough that I'd grow it again without the G13 Hazeplant in the genetics, but nice enough that I'll give the Widowmaker Skunk a shot down the line with some other Widow-derived genetics that I've been waiting to drop.

It's kinda funny, at this point a year ago I was scouring seedbanks for new genetics. Now I'll take a look every now and then, but there aren't all that many more strains that I feel would be worth buying over working some G13 Hazeplant crosses. And if I am thinking of buying something, it's likely to see how it would cross with G13 Hazeplant.

Sure, down the road it would be cool to work in some Romulan, Trainwreck, God, Texada Timewarp, Appalachian and Mass Super Skunk, Freakshow, CBD/CBG stuff. and more heirloom/landrace stuff, but realistically if I bought any of those today I wouldn't have space to drop them for a few months, at least.

Speaking of dudes, the Blue Dream x ON Haze and the Black Swamp Gas dudes are just about chucking pollen now. The Diesel Ghash, Blowfish, and Goldfish dudes will get bigger containers and get put back under 12/12 soon for the same reason- to get brushed on both G13 Hazeplant phenos when they get flipped next.
 

Kanzeon

In Bloom
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Just sayin'.

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Kanzeon

In Bloom
Did some long-awaited chucking tonight.

(Blue Dream x ON Haze) F2's
Golden Tiger x G13 Hazeplant
Kali China x G13 Hazeplant
(Wedding Cake x ON Haze) x G13 Hazeplant
Blowfish x G13 Hazeplant
Tin Foil Hat x G13 Hazeplant
 
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