Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
Im a stuborn guano tea user, but i like to try things on occasion.
I think these are an interesting selection.
Lets talk nutes
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I think these are an interesting selection.
GthaEnigma
Canna-Arborist
The past two seasons i have used Roots Organic Terp Tea. It is an organic blend of dry amendments. 1 for veg, 1 for bloom. I use as top dress during veg and 1st 2 wks of bloom, then add to tea for the rest. Super easy to use. I top dress with a pint glass a wk. During the first two weeks of flower i transition 50-50 wk1, 25grow-75 bloom, then just add the bloom 1Tbsp/gal to my finished tea along with 1/2 T of organic bud candy. I have put my tea recipe on my thread. My soil blend is an adaptation of the revs real living organic soil recipe.
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
This is the boost that I use at week six. I really like Roots organics products
Z71banshee
In Bloom
I use General Organics base nutes and any supplements are from Zen Products. I got the GO box and started to do a trial with a run of Wedding Cake. Half got normal regimen and the other half I used the GO box and followed their feed chart. Halfway through flower, the full line plants were starting to burn up. I just switched everything back to my normal feed to finish. Their Base nutrients seems to work really well with Zen Products in my environment.
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
I should put this here.
Has any one tried this kelp product?
Its a dry amendment that is eater soluble.
Has any one tried this kelp product?
Its a dry amendment that is eater soluble.
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
Its a crystalline powder.
Damn. I hope that's the creepiest thing I read today.
Just started using Future Harvest Royal Gold as my first fulvic product. Still not convinced I'm seeing much difference in the hempys, but using it in a foliar spray on clones and seedlings has made for happier cuts. Just started the spray in the last week or so, so it's early days, but looking good so far.
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
Humics and fulvics are golden.
It merely adds forest floor to your containers.
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
Terp tea indoors is what my game plan plus some extra add ons but I want to be 70% organic vs right now I’m 60-80% synthetic indoors . I def taste and see the end results from running both uprising and terp tea and organics vs indoors version = wonderful terp and taste and the plants love organics and good bio environment , why fight a plant and give it a bunch of salts?
www.aurorainnovations.com
terp tea topping + weekly brews work and it shows in the results and plants happiness . if It’s me I’m spending my cash on quality and beneficial s like fungi/bacteria and biocontrol vs snake oil “ what if it works” and over feeding with high npk nute %.
current indoors (week 1-4 weeks of bloom schedule )
DRY NUTRIENTS — Aurora Innovations
www.aurorainnovations.com
terp tea topping + weekly brews work and it shows in the results and plants happiness . if It’s me I’m spending my cash on quality and beneficial s like fungi/bacteria and biocontrol vs snake oil “ what if it works” and over feeding with high npk nute %.
current indoors (week 1-4 weeks of bloom schedule )
Inferno Mike
In Bloom
Hi there, throwing my $0.02 into the mix. I've been making my own 2 part nutrient system for a few years now. I use a base of Oasis Hydroponic 16-4-17 from JR Peters, the makers of Jack's
I make a concentrated stock solution with that stuff, Calcium Nitrate and Iron DTPA. that's what I call "Part A"
"Part B" is Monopotassium Phosphate and Epsom Salts.
The NPK of the final mix is about 20-16-24.
I use equal parts of each, 10-12ml per gallon, from late veg to harvest, 2.0-2.4 EC (1000-1200 ppm).
Clones and seedlings start at 0.7 EC (350 ppm) and early veg runs about 1.4-1.6 EC (600-800 ppm).
That's it.
In coco I use a little cal mag, twice a month. In soil I alternate plain tap water and full feed. I flush once in the middle of every flower run to rinse any salt buildup from the media, and I don't do a pre-harvest flush. I generally maintain long cure times (2-3 months)
That's the whole program.
I don't know of anyone else using this, I designed it after the ideas in the old @churchhaze "DIY nutrients in 5 minutes" thread on RIU and it works extremely well. It's also easy and really inexpensive.
I make a concentrated stock solution with that stuff, Calcium Nitrate and Iron DTPA. that's what I call "Part A"
"Part B" is Monopotassium Phosphate and Epsom Salts.
The NPK of the final mix is about 20-16-24.
I use equal parts of each, 10-12ml per gallon, from late veg to harvest, 2.0-2.4 EC (1000-1200 ppm).
Clones and seedlings start at 0.7 EC (350 ppm) and early veg runs about 1.4-1.6 EC (600-800 ppm).
That's it.
In coco I use a little cal mag, twice a month. In soil I alternate plain tap water and full feed. I flush once in the middle of every flower run to rinse any salt buildup from the media, and I don't do a pre-harvest flush. I generally maintain long cure times (2-3 months)
That's the whole program.
I don't know of anyone else using this, I designed it after the ideas in the old @churchhaze "DIY nutrients in 5 minutes" thread on RIU and it works extremely well. It's also easy and really inexpensive.
Badmofo529
In Bloom
Anyone here using AGT-50/mr fulvic? Bioactive Organic Acid Complex | Agtonik | United States
Seen some good buzz about it on the future4200 forums.
Been seeing good results with the nftg Zeus juice, but I'm about out and I'm thinking about trying that out.
Seen some good buzz about it on the future4200 forums.
Been seeing good results with the nftg Zeus juice, but I'm about out and I'm thinking about trying that out.
Chunky Stool
Plant Destroyer
Mills pays the bills.
I'm not crazy about their "Start-R" product and use GH 'Floralicous Plus' instead.
Inferno Mike
In Bloom
A little more detail:
Inferno Mike's Growin' Juice
N - 200
P - 156
K - 240
Ca - 108
Mg - 34.25
S - 26.6
Fe - 3
Misc. Traces - 73
The recipe below will make approximately 1.5 gallons of each concentrated stock solution.
Part A
- 1 gallon of distilled or RO water
- 66 grams Iron Chelate DTPA
- 1452 grams Oasis Hydro 16-4-17
- 682 grams Ammonium Calcium Nitrate
- 1.25 gallon distilled or RO water
- 852 grams Monopotassium Phosphate (MKP)
- 388 grams Epsom Salt (MgSO4)
- Six to ten drops of your favorite color of food flavoring, I use blue.
Heat water in separate non-reactive clean pots, stainless is fine. Add powdered nutrients when water is just below boiling temp, not critical just get it hot. Stir real good with separate utensils. Wait for it to cool, pour into gallon jugs and/or quart size squeezable condiment bottles using a funnel. Do not cross-contaminate the funnel and other tools or otherwise mix parts A and B with each other in this process, keep it clean and these stock solutions can be stored for over 1 year, probably longer. I try to use it up a little faster than that.
Adding 10-12ml of each Part A and Part B to a gallon RO or distilled water should result in about 1000-1200 ppm or 2.0-2.4 EC, adjust your amounts to reflect how your stock solutions actually turned out. I can't stress this enough; Always take EC and pH measurements before you start using a new batch or bottle of fertilizer or additive.
I've had solid success using varying media and techniques running mature plants with EC as low as 1.6 and as high as 3.0.
Effective between 5.5-8.0 pH - I shit you not.
I generally run between 6.0-7.0 pH about 2.0EC (1000ppm) on everything bigger than seedlings and new cuts.
I run 5.5-6.0 pH for clones and 350ppm/0.7EC for clones and seedlings.
You can play with boosting P by adding more of Part B to your solution, up to double tends to be safe, just don't let the overall EC go above 3.0 EC. Account for pH swing and EC concentration according to the system and media you are using.
This system is simple, flexible and inexpensive. Also, the growth rates are spectacular, so that's nice.
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Chunky Stool
Plant Destroyer
I admire your enthusiasm!Terp tea indoors is what my game plan plus some extra add ons but I want to be 70% organic vs right now I’m 60-80% synthetic indoors . I def taste and see the end results from running both uprising and terp tea and organics vs indoors version = wonderful terp and taste and the plants love organics and good bio environment , why fight a plant and give it a bunch of salts?
DRY NUTRIENTS — Aurora Innovations
terp tea topping + weekly brews work and it shows in the results and plants happiness . if It’s me I’m spending my cash on quality and beneficial s like fungi/bacteria and biocontrol vs snake oil “ what if it works” and over feeding with high npk nute %.
current indoors (week 1-4 weeks of bloom schedule )
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Organic gardening should be easy.
If the soil is right, all you should have give your plants is plain water.
Synthetic nutrients also have significant advantages.
Elements are elements...
Inferno Mike
In Bloom
I agree with this. Outdoors I do organic soil that I cook a year in advance, and plain water. I do mostly veggies and fruit trees out there. Indoors I use hydro systems and salts. Giving a plant fertilizer from chemical salts is not fighting the plant. Where do winter tomatoes come from? Hydroponics. Hydro feeds the world.I admire your enthusiasm!
Organic gardening should be easy.
If the soil is right, all you should have give your plants is plain water.
Synthetic nutrients also have significant advantages.
Elements are elements...
I'm all for organic commercial agriculture when possible, but it doesn't make the end product better or worse. There's a massive body of scientific research about that. As Chunky said, elements are elements. Roots ingest elements only. I'm pro organic and pro hydroponic at the same time. There's no wrong way, it really depends on context and/or preference.
There's a trap that many good, well-meaning, smart, skilled folks fall into occasionally, myself included. Thinking we know the causation of certain results can be a spiral down the drain of misplaced certainty. Really knowing the causation of a thing usually requires a lot of well-planned, ruthlessly measured, work.
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
not arguing with you or saying you can’t have your own views. Nothing negative with you. Just adding a view from experience vs arguing with you.
Actually a lot of synthetic to organics work together and show better % of terps vs just synthetics. And having a synthetic allowable and tolerable bacteria and fungi does show a major gain vs not doing so.
you gotta pay To play , those salts and high npk’s is just asking for waste and stress vs organics and things that break it down and cefend your balance. Like ph for example. If you have enough fungi and bennies . So many will make no matter how off your on your ph it will protect that . thats a game changer and defense and faster breakdown of better flavor based ? Have you ever done a compare of applying bat poop or sea bird vs synthetics ? You can def taste a difference or any organics vs such. You are what u eat
once using organic and also bennies and fungi =30-60% less ppm demands even under led’s and plants are so defensive and stable, I wonder why? Maybe it’s what farmers should be doing vs fighting nature ?
I would never use a synthetic pgr, but I’m a organic pgr & pgp whore
its funny how all the clubs and patients once I hit higher % of organics vs synthetics , why do they love it more and give me comment vs synthetics ? A npk score can be the same but there’s those extra’s from organic like cooking with synthetic things vs organics . ☺️
to your referance it must be done a year behind( only thing I would agree is like things that are too hot before applying ), actually most organics Inless like lime and gypsum and the longer to break down stuff like rock phos. Guanos and many things will be inputted by 2-6 weeks, hints why so many want you to do such 2-4 weeks reapply. Once you have a high population of bennies/fungi and a good balanced super soil/medium.things break down quick if you got it balanced and correct environment .
for example that’s why companies for example seagreen ,terp gerp or paleobloom + many more they can use rock phos or misc things and they brew it into a super compost and make something that would take months/years to breakdown and the high population made it as fast as soluable as synthetics and almost instant intake cause theor formula has broken it down and made such.
commerical cannabis vs commerical veggies or even fruit is a different ball game cause look at price per oz/lb vs and if it’s not profitable and people are all about visual and shelf life vs taste and nute results on that. No wonder the farmers of that industry don’t care lol
i’ll take a fluffy bud/foxtail over a pgr synthetic and grown with only synethics anyday cause the taste and smell is so much better. Bet most people if they weren’t doing ‘look ranking “ vs tasting ‘smell and it was all pregrinded it wouldn’t all be indica s and hard nugs . Blind smokers lol
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Actually a lot of synthetic to organics work together and show better % of terps vs just synthetics. And having a synthetic allowable and tolerable bacteria and fungi does show a major gain vs not doing so.
you gotta pay To play , those salts and high npk’s is just asking for waste and stress vs organics and things that break it down and cefend your balance. Like ph for example. If you have enough fungi and bennies . So many will make no matter how off your on your ph it will protect that . thats a game changer and defense and faster breakdown of better flavor based ? Have you ever done a compare of applying bat poop or sea bird vs synthetics ? You can def taste a difference or any organics vs such. You are what u eat
once using organic and also bennies and fungi =30-60% less ppm demands even under led’s and plants are so defensive and stable, I wonder why? Maybe it’s what farmers should be doing vs fighting nature ?
I would never use a synthetic pgr, but I’m a organic pgr & pgp whore
its funny how all the clubs and patients once I hit higher % of organics vs synthetics , why do they love it more and give me comment vs synthetics ? A npk score can be the same but there’s those extra’s from organic like cooking with synthetic things vs organics . ☺️
to your referance it must be done a year behind( only thing I would agree is like things that are too hot before applying ), actually most organics Inless like lime and gypsum and the longer to break down stuff like rock phos. Guanos and many things will be inputted by 2-6 weeks, hints why so many want you to do such 2-4 weeks reapply. Once you have a high population of bennies/fungi and a good balanced super soil/medium.things break down quick if you got it balanced and correct environment .
for example that’s why companies for example seagreen ,terp gerp or paleobloom + many more they can use rock phos or misc things and they brew it into a super compost and make something that would take months/years to breakdown and the high population made it as fast as soluable as synthetics and almost instant intake cause theor formula has broken it down and made such.
commerical cannabis vs commerical veggies or even fruit is a different ball game cause look at price per oz/lb vs and if it’s not profitable and people are all about visual and shelf life vs taste and nute results on that. No wonder the farmers of that industry don’t care lol
i’ll take a fluffy bud/foxtail over a pgr synthetic and grown with only synethics anyday cause the taste and smell is so much better. Bet most people if they weren’t doing ‘look ranking “ vs tasting ‘smell and it was all pregrinded it wouldn’t all be indica s and hard nugs . Blind smokers lol
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TERP GERP - Primordial Solutions
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One Drop
In Bloom
Hi great read in this thread great info .. I’ve used a fair few brands some good some bad , now I’ve been using Reiziger base nutes A&B , veg , bloom at 1 ml per LT it’s fantastic in hydro system and very good for soil medium as well , it has been used in tomato cropping with insane results I’m running silica,cal mag n humic acid plus Cyco super sticky , sugar rush ,Swell , Dr recharge iron sup I’m loving the results and my flush period is now just one week with great white ash left behind after it’s smoked ... keeping on with Reiziger nutes will buy there add ons this season to see what’s what ... regards OD.
Inferno Mike
In Bloom
I'm not talking about your results vs any other results. I'm talking about causation. It's literally not a matter of opinion. I want you to do what works for you, but any claims that one or the other are better have a large body of evidence against it that says they are identical.
I want you to do organic growing. You claim it gives you better results and that your customers prefer it for reasons of quality. I don't dispute any of that. I dispute that you can know with any degree of precision that organic growing is a significant cause of those better results. You've hit on a set of practices that have outstanding results, keep doing it!
There's a giant body of scientific agriculture research done by full time scientists that says the results of hydroponic/artificially fertilized produce vs organically grown produce of the same cultivar are nutritionally, and therefore chemically, identical. There are variations, but those ranges of variation are identical. Any assertion that cannabis is different than all other forms of agriculture does not have significant data to support it. It may be true, but there's no reason to think so based on the corpus of information we currently have.
There is also a bunch of research that says if you're doing commercial agriculture in dirt under the sun that you oughtta be doing organics so your farm doesn't ruin the river drainage and aquifer water quality. So, please go organic if you are going big outside. The real benefits of organic are environmental, and that's crazy human-survival important, but the product itself is identical, because of the magic of photosynthesis.
I want you to do organic growing. You claim it gives you better results and that your customers prefer it for reasons of quality. I don't dispute any of that. I dispute that you can know with any degree of precision that organic growing is a significant cause of those better results. You've hit on a set of practices that have outstanding results, keep doing it!
There's a giant body of scientific agriculture research done by full time scientists that says the results of hydroponic/artificially fertilized produce vs organically grown produce of the same cultivar are nutritionally, and therefore chemically, identical. There are variations, but those ranges of variation are identical. Any assertion that cannabis is different than all other forms of agriculture does not have significant data to support it. It may be true, but there's no reason to think so based on the corpus of information we currently have.
There is also a bunch of research that says if you're doing commercial agriculture in dirt under the sun that you oughtta be doing organics so your farm doesn't ruin the river drainage and aquifer water quality. So, please go organic if you are going big outside. The real benefits of organic are environmental, and that's crazy human-survival important, but the product itself is identical, because of the magic of photosynthesis.
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