Rozgreenburn
"The Philosopher, is Stoned"
I was hoping that someone could guide me to information about making my own nutes.
Looking for insight into harvesting organic nutrients for my garden.
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Fluffy Butt
In Bloom
This paper has a good write up on it; https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SA-7.pdf
I'd start by planting/foraging for things like comfrey, dandelions, stinging nettle, horsetail, or other dynamic accumulators. For the comfrey you'll want the bocking 14 variety, and to be careful where you plant it as it will be there forever.
In addition to KNF style inputs, you can dry and grind the plant material into a meal much like kelp meal, or freeze it and feed it to your worms.
I'd start by planting/foraging for things like comfrey, dandelions, stinging nettle, horsetail, or other dynamic accumulators. For the comfrey you'll want the bocking 14 variety, and to be careful where you plant it as it will be there forever.
In addition to KNF style inputs, you can dry and grind the plant material into a meal much like kelp meal, or freeze it and feed it to your worms.
Willie
๐ Crush Genetics ๐
Bocking 4 is good too........the important part is that neither #14 or #4 seed themselves.
I expect to get 5 harvests from mine this year. Spread it at the base of plants ond also dig some in and also put some in the 55 gallon water drum.
I have quite a few in pots too.........just have to have a board under the pots so they don't root..........and they will try.
More NPK than compost.........that sold me. this will be my 3rd crop season with comfrey for me.
I expect to get 5 harvests from mine this year. Spread it at the base of plants ond also dig some in and also put some in the 55 gallon water drum.
I have quite a few in pots too.........just have to have a board under the pots so they don't root..........and they will try.
More NPK than compost.........that sold me. this will be my 3rd crop season with comfrey for me.
GthaEnigma
Canna-Arborist
I would have to say stick to growing, unless you know there is no residual contamination of any kind where you are harvesting. Dynamic accumulators will pick up heavy metals, radiation, etc. Cannabis is also a dynamic accumulator so this is an important consideration.
Willie
๐ Crush Genetics ๐
New findings further the study of dynamic accumulators - The Permaculture Research Institute
Authors: Ben Tyler & Greta Zarro, Unadilla Community Farm As permaculture principles gain popula
www.permaculturenews.org
The thing is, literally speaking, hyperaccumulation and dynamic accumulation are two terms referring to the same biological process. But whereas the study of hyperaccumulation is specifically focused on the accumulation of toxic heavy metals, dynamic accumulation focuses on the accumulation of beneficial nutrients
Note the difference between hyper and dynamic accumulation.
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Cincimilla Genetics
In Bloom
Making your own fermented plant juices, Lactose bacillus, charred banana peels. And get your own worm bin to make castings.
HBZ
โ๏ธ๐ฅ๐ FORAGER of FIRE ๐๐ฅโ๏ธ
Comfrey is easy to grow too...Also one of the best asthma meds when drank as a tea....magical stuff?
Rozgreenburn
"The Philosopher, is Stoned"
That will give me a place to start, thanx. It will give me a few months to come up with a plan.
Cincimilla Genetics
In Bloom
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Rozgreenburn
"The Philosopher, is Stoned"
Thank you all for the needed info!Natural Farming Recipes โ Organic Cultivators
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Trichitect
Canna-bacchus incarnate
Make JLF out of all of your cannabis waste, it's very easy, but extremely stinky. Stuff as many leaves as you can in a 5 gal bucket, top up with water to cover, and a small scoop of forest soil, let sit for six months with the lid on. Start with just a couple mils per gallon, it can be strong.
Rozgreenburn
"The Philosopher, is Stoned"
I have been semi composting all my canna scraps for my worm bins. This sound very simple and so, I'll try hiding the next 2 gallons of trimmings and make a 2 gallon trial batch. I'll be growing amendments this Spring, but I can start this immediately!
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
Make your medium alive,the membrane, the inputer, the breakdown. Key is to not use harsh chemicals and things that are hot.
people get to focused on recipes and should know the functions and timing the plant wants such and demands. Donโt let a recipe get in your way cause did The previous generations before modern ag took over and ruined the land, made ur self dependent on them and requires them for every step.
the fact people think growing in peatmoss is the best idea but bringing in living soil from outdoors is a major no-no are living in a blind mindset cause these fungi even if it wasnโt forest soil has thousands of years to make and like any evolutionary choices, the best and strong survive and make insane fungi Species . you canโt buy these things at a store and if u do ur getting a fraction. best thing u can do is throw is 1/3 real soil on bottom of ur pots or beds than ur leafs/stems and than peat or my preferred cause pest is acidic and more anaerobic is coco with lots of organic material and things to break down. People worry will it over feed the plant? Thing is with non hot natrual breakdown and fungi/bacteria communication itโs if not the best buffer, intaker, defense and way to have a only water if perfered method and best terps with no worry of salt build up . Trust me I would love to use a medium forever and have the only time Iโm buying more is because the living worms and fungi are eating ti away vs throwing it away . The fact when u have intakers and natrual membrane like humic acid you can apply heavy metal and have natures filters. if I can apply my cycles worth of all npk and know it wonโt over apply or burn it but also I only need 1/4 of what I would feed as synthetics but all this worry of heavy metal on their side in which they have to flush? question is it the cost?is it a gain in potency or terps? I disagree u will gain any of that and to a home growers perspective feeding ur plant is least of the tools to sucess and why make it a sci project and what ifโs where natures and god knows how many years people and nature show organics work but also itโs the living side that makes it shine but also works as a filter , intaker, defense, communication and without so much of it. U just donโt get that end result
to have living medium where I donโt have to ph my water, where if droughts or stress it buffers and helps, where if a pathogen comes in it defends, where I donโt need as much npk cause the living microbes work as Allie to give it freely without nutes. where U have a natrual defense against bugs and molds but also if attacks u have a defense. Freely. yeah cause in nature they need ph adjusted water, high npk salts and resistance gained pesticides to survive, it shows we def depend on too much and think humans can aid or do thing nature canโt. Totally blind
cannabis is only ag if you want to call it a real ag business where they donโt realize how good living and having a symbolically ready fungi infused medium is for their fruit/buds, if anything they allowed our non ag government to put in regulations that make any trace of living stuff unallowableโฆ yeah they do that to fruit and veggies and tobacco. Bullshit they allow soooo much and itโs sickening . Why donโt u think in most tree/fruiting farms they know now itโs not the npk that gives the fruits this extra edge, it was having plants at same medium for many years that made the fungi be their best and biggest input/defence + many benefits. shoot I can throw literally multi inches of dry amendments and leads and within a week or two it doesnโt exist .
just saying people want this special key, itโs not the food/npk entirely if anything thatโs smallest piece of the pie For sucess.Itโs making a living medium with diversity of fungi and bacteria that can and will improve your overall growing experience but also give you the key of how trees can last years even without water in certain regions or tell the other trees thereโs a attack coming. Nature doesnโt fuck around and only the strong survive so to play god and buy shit is only asking for failure and do u really see modern ag exp cannabis beating natures growth ? I donโt and proof is in the pudding.
think Iโm just a stupid organic farmer? I call humans stupid for not realizing fungi are the biggest key but also map to everything. The lack of knowledge and respect of something so obvious for sucess and around everything is so sad we as humans donโt realize how important microbes and fungi are. we know less than 3% of documented fungi and more about the bottom of the ocean or mars than how fungiโs functions and what they do. so why do so many fear and also think human made npk and farming is legit? Show me the proof cause itโs not there.
if you want help on a base, go on any of my cycles of growing and youโll find exactly what I apply, top and brew with, ainโt fucking around and the proof is there
people get to focused on recipes and should know the functions and timing the plant wants such and demands. Donโt let a recipe get in your way cause did The previous generations before modern ag took over and ruined the land, made ur self dependent on them and requires them for every step.
the fact people think growing in peatmoss is the best idea but bringing in living soil from outdoors is a major no-no are living in a blind mindset cause these fungi even if it wasnโt forest soil has thousands of years to make and like any evolutionary choices, the best and strong survive and make insane fungi Species . you canโt buy these things at a store and if u do ur getting a fraction. best thing u can do is throw is 1/3 real soil on bottom of ur pots or beds than ur leafs/stems and than peat or my preferred cause pest is acidic and more anaerobic is coco with lots of organic material and things to break down. People worry will it over feed the plant? Thing is with non hot natrual breakdown and fungi/bacteria communication itโs if not the best buffer, intaker, defense and way to have a only water if perfered method and best terps with no worry of salt build up . Trust me I would love to use a medium forever and have the only time Iโm buying more is because the living worms and fungi are eating ti away vs throwing it away . The fact when u have intakers and natrual membrane like humic acid you can apply heavy metal and have natures filters. if I can apply my cycles worth of all npk and know it wonโt over apply or burn it but also I only need 1/4 of what I would feed as synthetics but all this worry of heavy metal on their side in which they have to flush? question is it the cost?is it a gain in potency or terps? I disagree u will gain any of that and to a home growers perspective feeding ur plant is least of the tools to sucess and why make it a sci project and what ifโs where natures and god knows how many years people and nature show organics work but also itโs the living side that makes it shine but also works as a filter , intaker, defense, communication and without so much of it. U just donโt get that end result
to have living medium where I donโt have to ph my water, where if droughts or stress it buffers and helps, where if a pathogen comes in it defends, where I donโt need as much npk cause the living microbes work as Allie to give it freely without nutes. where U have a natrual defense against bugs and molds but also if attacks u have a defense. Freely. yeah cause in nature they need ph adjusted water, high npk salts and resistance gained pesticides to survive, it shows we def depend on too much and think humans can aid or do thing nature canโt. Totally blind
cannabis is only ag if you want to call it a real ag business where they donโt realize how good living and having a symbolically ready fungi infused medium is for their fruit/buds, if anything they allowed our non ag government to put in regulations that make any trace of living stuff unallowableโฆ yeah they do that to fruit and veggies and tobacco. Bullshit they allow soooo much and itโs sickening . Why donโt u think in most tree/fruiting farms they know now itโs not the npk that gives the fruits this extra edge, it was having plants at same medium for many years that made the fungi be their best and biggest input/defence + many benefits. shoot I can throw literally multi inches of dry amendments and leads and within a week or two it doesnโt exist .
just saying people want this special key, itโs not the food/npk entirely if anything thatโs smallest piece of the pie For sucess.Itโs making a living medium with diversity of fungi and bacteria that can and will improve your overall growing experience but also give you the key of how trees can last years even without water in certain regions or tell the other trees thereโs a attack coming. Nature doesnโt fuck around and only the strong survive so to play god and buy shit is only asking for failure and do u really see modern ag exp cannabis beating natures growth ? I donโt and proof is in the pudding.
think Iโm just a stupid organic farmer? I call humans stupid for not realizing fungi are the biggest key but also map to everything. The lack of knowledge and respect of something so obvious for sucess and around everything is so sad we as humans donโt realize how important microbes and fungi are. we know less than 3% of documented fungi and more about the bottom of the ocean or mars than how fungiโs functions and what they do. so why do so many fear and also think human made npk and farming is legit? Show me the proof cause itโs not there.
if you want help on a base, go on any of my cycles of growing and youโll find exactly what I apply, top and brew with, ainโt fucking around and the proof is there
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Rozgreenburn
"The Philosopher, is Stoned"
Willie
๐ Crush Genetics ๐
Same recipe/method for comfrey and dandelion root!
Frosty78
Habitabat autem somnium
Egg shells can be converted to calcium available foliar spray and soul aswell, there's plenty. I look at it this way, everything growing has a cycle and purpose and can feed in a cycle, or pest management.
This fella is good for tips and recipes etc too.
joegroworegon.wixsite.com
This fella is good for tips and recipes etc too.
The Unconventional Farmer | fermentationfarmer
Lester Moor
bloodeye
I am not as well versed as BH but I love what he is saying and his grow. Sounds like my philosophy for the past maybe 10+ years." You can't push the river" the only bottles needed imo are the acids ( humic/fulvic) otherwise, strictly home made tea. To add the fungi ( may sound odd but) I use dry baby food oatmeal, get it moist and put it on a heat mat...fungi grows in about 3-4 days...then add that to my tea. If I want a booster I make an alfalfa sprout tea and add that to my tea or just water it straight in. You can never force a plant to grow bigger flowers or stronger terps. You can only give it the best soil and external environment to grow to it's genetic potential. Just my 2 pennies...today might be worth 0.2 cents...but I am ok with that ?.
Trichitect
Canna-bacchus incarnate
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