Maxi Blow

Manidoo

In Bloom
After years and years it's still one of my favorites!

General Hydroponics
Maxi Bloom + Maxi Grow 50/50

Never really liked the Lucas formula, but through the many years I found the Maxi-Blow to be the best bang for my buck.

Bought a few 5 gallon buckets a few years ago and came up with my recipe for the Maxi Blow and even though I'm predominantly an Organic soil guy I love to see just how my cuts and my work handles the salts.

Yes there's cheaper yet to be found in dry synthetics, and of course plenty of brands charging way too much for their own propetrrial blend. I've made my own, ran everything that is practical and I'm still going to put my money on General Hydroponics before I get salty over overpriced salts!
 

Manidoo

In Bloom
I should note that I ran both Maxi Grow and Maxi Bloom for close to a decade without additives. It wasn't until I got them buckets that I really went 50-50 having never been satisfied with each on their own. It was the first few weeks in transit into flowering that I realized 50-50 was what my E.C consisted of. I then went straight 50-50 with the Blow and configured my own additives like fulvic & silicone as example of some of my additives.

Everytime I have went straight with each product it just reminded me that the Blow blew both products in comparison out of the water figuratively speaking lol
 

Smokieokie

In Bloom
After months of pondering and reading upon other nutes I went and ordered more maxi grow and bloom. I used it previously for over a year and never had an issue really that I can blame on the nutes. I've since used Jack's, GH flora micro and bloom (Lucas), Mills (currently using), and AN jungle juice series. The only one that has given me problems was jungle juice🤷‍♂️ could've been me. But for simplicity and decent results, maxi isn't bad for salts.
 

Manidoo

In Bloom
After months of pondering and reading upon other nutes I went and ordered more maxi grow and bloom. I used it previously for over a year and never had an issue really that I can blame on the nutes. I've since used Jack's, GH flora micro and bloom (Lucas), Mills (currently using), and AN jungle juice series. The only one that has given me problems was jungle juice🤷‍♂️ could've been me. But for simplicity and decent results, maxi isn't bad for salts.





I swear by it as the best bang for the buck when it comes down to the dry mixes. I think Jacks is like eating McDonald's and GH is like eating Wendy's from a plant/human perspective 😂
 

Manidoo

In Bloom
Well I have to 86 this one. I bought 5 gallon buckets years ago of Maxi Grow & Bloom just before the acquisition of General Hydroponics by the Scotts Group! Working as a Hydro Tech / Grow Store Manager I watched the General Hydroponics products go down hill in the midst of the company preparing for the transfer of ownership. Spent hours talking about the QC issues as well as unstable nutrient profiles and just plain out piss poor quality batches of just about every product I sold.

Long story short, I got the last of the good batches back then delivered to the shop directly. Well here I am years later just finishing up the buckets of dry mix.

Decided to grab a few packs of both Grow and Bloom recently to only find what looks now like laundry soap. There's a cheaper calcium carrier, base is weaker and it is definitely not comparable with the original and the nutrient profiles have been altered. Been hearing about this in the bottles of GH through the weed vine. Sure enough I'm outta close to $40 bucks as I can not stress test run with the Maxi the way it is now. Probably be fine for most people. Yet I have to have a stable product for the gauntlet.

When I grew in the conventional way, I used Cutting Edge Solution for the personal work and smoke. So now I'm going to be using the CES for testing new gear in the salt baths here.
 
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Manidoo

In Bloom
⚠️Boycott alert ⚠️

If I could delete this one I would! I'm never going to support Hawthorne let alone one of their partners again!

Generic Hydroponic, it has been rendered to this now. If you follow me in this thread you'll know that I had what seemed like a lifetime supply of the Maxi Grow and Bloom in 5 gallon buckets I have been working with over five years. Those are gone now and soon anything remaining here too will be gone for good!

I have years of experience, Master Gardener certified and I entered the horticulture industry working in greenhouses as a teenager. Hydroponics, I began to explore in 91 and I formulated my own nutrients and even taught a student instructed hydroponic course in my senior year for a elective credit. With that said and humbly so I have worked as a Hydro Tech Grow Store Manager for years practically building a business for someone else.

I Have zero tolerance for commodities, and this is what Generic Hydroponics is slinging in preparation for the mass market ahead. I took the liberty to access this issue I have found in the newest batch of Maxi Grow I picked up. Luckily for me, it wasn't a 5 gallon bucket.


Once I analyzed this last week, I decided enough is enough, immediately after I sent a email to Generic Hydroponics in regards to the particular batch in hand directly giving Hawthorne the feedback they deserve while retaining tactfulness and professionally so! Low and behold some dip shit with at best an associate degree in who cares decided to try to school me while assuming that I didn't know what I was talking about, funny thing is this individual set themselves up surrounded by oxymoronic statements and basically tried to point the finger at the middlemen or something like that lol. I replied back after it was apparently a goodbye with a serious HELLO WAkE THE HeLL up and pay attention!

I've had to deal with the old General Hydroponics company quality control techs and it was then a different company and philosophy. I actually worked with the techs to get some results and I know that my name is in the records for the batch recall I helped with back then. I was able from then out to be listened to quickly and any issues were resolved by the company and immediately so. So I decided that since this dipshit answering emails telling me how to grow wasn't going to listen let alone take the proper step to ensure quality control, that I would intervene. They now have their batch number and I left the bigwigs a little note as well in regards to the piss poor engineering, products and service and I congratulated then all for destroying America's first Hydroponic Company. Kudos Hawthorne, your a thorn in the ass more than anything!

I also have made it be known not to send me anything in return, not a note and surely not some generic shit fertilizer either..
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
I used MaxiBloom for a few years, but it was pulled from Canadian shelves I'm thinking close to two years ago. I ended up using the rest of my stash mixed with a bag of Megacrop until they ran out. I definitely noticed a lack of consistency from bag to bag with the Maxi. Different textures, different colours, different smells.

When that was gone, I switched over to Jacks middle of last run. I'm mixing it a little light on the Cal-Nit and only feeding at 600-750 ppm(hempy style). I can't really make a full assessment until I've used it for a year or two but so far so good.
 

Manidoo

In Bloom
I'm not seeing any obvious connections between the Rothschilds' enterprises and Scott-Miracle Gro, care to elaborate?
As it's not something easily seen. The globalist have been working together through the corpotacracy and I have been working with the people I know in the industry and slowly connecting the Hawthorne Family regardless of the name changes just like Red shield becoming Rothschild and I don't have any excess time off hand to bring forth the pyramid being built connecting these companies and it's not a conspiracy, just a lot of people who are getting shafted and have came together with another putting all of the pieces together.


All too often people are just completely unaware of the backers in so many industries and it is pretty sickening when you get to see just who's behind what.

Even the Casinos our tribe operates is backed by the mob and it is not known by the general public that thinks it's just the poor Indians getting revenge for the injustices..

Anyways in short I will gladly break it down in a separate thread that will not be a simple quick one to amass. I have a great deal of inside sources and I didn't just dream this one up with a tin foil cap on the dome.

So with all due respect, I'll have to draw out a geneolgical chart and I will have to get a lot of legal notes together as well to show what was shown to me little bit by little bit as others higher up in the industry are loosing their lively hood over it and this is what upsets me along with the commodity being a replacement for genuinely good products..
 

spyralout

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@Manidoo while your comments are respected and appreciated, they are toeing the political line. In order to not attract unneeded attention we feel certain political viewpoints may have impacts other than intended. So no need to break it down in a separate thread. People can choose whatever products they wish to use, review them, praise or criticize, etc. However the political aspects do not need to be highlighted as people can do their own research on that and decide for themselves.
 

YardG

In Bloom
Let's make one thing clear, there's toeing the line of "politics", and there's anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. As it pertains to some supposed ownership by the Rothschilds, as opposed to (fact) Scott-Miracle Gro, a publicly traded multinational corporation, I don't respect @Manidoo's comments because it's anti-Semitic nonsense. That said, I respect his or her right to hold whatever opinion he or she wants, however wrong (and certainly acknowledge Manidoo's readily apparent skill and expertise in the realm of Cannabis and don't doubt he's right that the quality of the products in question has suffered).

Conspiracy theories are a distraction, but it is true private equity is hoovering-up Cannabis companies, and they'll wring whatever profits they can out of them without giving two shits about the quality of the products they sell.
 

18B

In Bloom
I used Maxi Grow...Maxi Bloom...Kool Bloom, both liquid and powder for many many years with my own tweaked formula...but for the last 10 years or so I have been 100% organic...
Salt ferts are great ferts for those of whom choose to use them...I used them with great understanding of how they work and when and how to use what/ and when. I was very successful and got a great product.
Nothing even close to what I get now with living soil and I am constantly tweaking that with my tea mixes.

It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt.🤨
 

Manidoo

In Bloom
Gakinaa awiiyaa, all my relations colloquially speaking

I have to first clarify that my wife is Jewish (Imagine that, my children too) it works well for us both having ancestors that survived the Holocausts.Yes plural!

Antisemite - I'm I'm not such, don't appreciate selective judgement . Never referenced nothing more than just the Bank behind the aquisitions and how names are connected (nepotism) . Globalist come in all races and creeds nowadays.

Not one company can purchase the amount of assets such as Scotts, Hydrofarm and the list continues without the Bank just like our casinos and the mob in Vegas backing it all. I watched Nestle / Ferrero and Nepotism destroy way to many lives and companies due to the greed and bank fueled purchased & reformations in the food industry rendered to foodstuffs working for Gerbers R&D kitchen.

I have zero tolerance for racism and I just follow the trail to the Banks behind it all simply put while connecting the nepotism without a care about creeds colors and the rest, but it's sad that antisemitism is a reality in the first place and it's not my intention, nor anything political oriented no matter how it may be interpreted. If I was to point out the 13 colonial family lines and their corporatocracy I'd be a racist against the White Man even though I have french blood!?

It's been fun and all, but I have no qualms about just bowing out of the house to avoid any other accusations leaving this post as a last fair well. Take care everyone, Baamaapii Niijiik
 

OldG

Elite Hobbyist
I noticed up here in Canada they changed their powder formulas and its tougher to get maxi grow or bloom.

Now they have the pro series


There is a micro powder and that.

I am still using masterblend tomato....2 tsp per 5 gallons lasts a long long time (25 pound bag). 4-18-38
I found AN was a lot more foregiving at 5 times the cost...so masterblend tomato it is.

for water systems....i grow in organic soil too and i am sticking with it. I love the stuff. The flavors, aromas, peace of mind and awesomeness of natural things working naturally...turbo charged by NATURE !

but i think 1/2 gallon pots are possible with salts and would be laughable with soil....they all have their uses.
 
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YardG

In Bloom
Gakinaa awiiyaa, all my relations colloquially speaking

I have to first clarify that my wife is Jewish (Imagine that, my children too) it works well for us both having ancestors that survived the Holocausts.Yes plural!

Antisemite - I'm I'm not such, don't appreciate selective judgement . Never referenced nothing more than just the Bank behind the aquisitions and how names are connected (nepotism) . Globalist come in all races and creeds nowadays.

Not one company can purchase the amount of assets such as Scotts, Hydrofarm and the list continues without the Bank just like our casinos and the mob in Vegas backing it all. I watched Nestle / Ferrero and Nepotism destroy way to many lives and companies due to the greed and bank fueled purchased & reformations in the food industry rendered to foodstuffs working for Gerbers R&D kitchen.

I have zero tolerance for racism and I just follow the trail to the Banks behind it all simply put while connecting the nepotism without a care about creeds colors and the rest, but it's sad that antisemitism is a reality in the first place and it's not my intention, nor anything political oriented no matter how it may be interpreted. If I was to point out the 13 colonial family lines and their corporatocracy I'd be a racist against the White Man even though I have french blood!?

It's been fun and all, but I have no qualms about just bowing out of the house to avoid any other accusations leaving this post as a last fair well. Take care everyone, Baamaapii Niijiik

Note that I was careful not to accuse you of being an anti-Semite. Expressing an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory (the part about "Red Shield", while strictly speaking true, is classic Rothschilds-are-nefarious conspiracy material) and being an anti-Semite aren't necessarily the same thing. Regardless I don't think you should go leaving or anything like that.

When I first asked I genuinely expected you'd point out that one of the Rothschilds investment vehicles was a controlling stockholder or something like that. Even when I found no connection to SMG I thought perhaps they had a hand in Canopy Holdings. TBH I suspect most of the money is coming from the tech sector anyway.
 

spyralout

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Gakinaa awiiyaa, all my relations colloquially speaking

I have to first clarify that my wife is Jewish (Imagine that, my children too) it works well for us both having ancestors that survived the Holocausts.Yes plural!

Antisemite - I'm I'm not such, don't appreciate selective judgement . Never referenced nothing more than just the Bank behind the aquisitions and how names are connected (nepotism) . Globalist come in all races and creeds nowadays.

Not one company can purchase the amount of assets such as Scotts, Hydrofarm and the list continues without the Bank just like our casinos and the mob in Vegas backing it all. I watched Nestle / Ferrero and Nepotism destroy way to many lives and companies due to the greed and bank fueled purchased & reformations in the food industry rendered to foodstuffs working for Gerbers R&D kitchen.

I have zero tolerance for racism and I just follow the trail to the Banks behind it all simply put while connecting the nepotism without a care about creeds colors and the rest, but it's sad that antisemitism is a reality in the first place and it's not my intention, nor anything political oriented no matter how it may be interpreted. If I was to point out the 13 colonial family lines and their corporatocracy I'd be a racist against the White Man even though I have french blood!?

It's been fun and all, but I have no qualms about just bowing out of the house to avoid any other accusations leaving this post as a last fair well. Take care everyone, Baamaapii Niijiik
There is no need to leave friend. Conflict and disagreement will always be a part of discussions like these. I don't think anyone was accusing you of anything at all. The original intention of the thread was to discuss the experiences of Maxi Bloom and GH products in general. Just didn't want it to go off in a direction that may have caused unintentional (and unnecessary) conflict. At the end of the day, we're talking about nutes to grow our weed. I hope you reconsider leaving as this was definitely not the intention to chase you out.
 
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