Meatman’s grow journal
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Agreenpassion
In Bloom
Looks like it will be a good show!
Out of curiosity what is the lineage of that Rugelach?
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Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
It is from premier sd/Clearwater it was a collab
Rugelach
Toaster Strudel ( Apple Fritter x Reckless Rainbow) x (Lemon Tree x Reckless Rainbow) x SD Warheads
SD Warheads is Apple Fritter x Seed Junky’s Sour Diesel x Animal Cookies bx2
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
I am the only known person to have a pack of them as GLO seedbank went on a meth bender and stole all the packs so they are pretty rare
Agreenpassion
In Bloom
? funny story (the canna soaps)
Really though, that sounds like this cross could have some interesting pheno. variations.
And GG4 has a special place in my heart.
Really though, that sounds like this cross could have some interesting pheno. variations.
And GG4 has a special place in my heart.
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
This is the Rugelach cut that I kept this will be the 5th time I’ve ran it, that’s what’s in the 5x5 super easy to grow with nice big nugs
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
Definitely my worst run to date misdiagnosed a pest so had fungus gnats when I thought it was mites of some sort shows why you go to a bug expert and not a buddy who thinks he knows everything lol but they are gone now but my plants suffered tremendously….just proves when you think you are doing everything right you still can get caught off guard whatever tho I’m not gonna dwell on it
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
You prolly did this already but worth the tip eh 
My suggestion now is let ur medium dry out as much as u can before it’s too “dry” and has borderline capping, 2-5 times at least. Than water regular;y but make sure to not over water. Over watering is if not biggest failure on any level of grower ,It’s super easy to do exp if on automation or using organic things in medium. key is realize fungus gnats rely on the fungus/anaerobic medium. this can be soloved for ur round and make the best of it by doing this and letting ur planrs flower a extra 1-2 weeks. Why? Take this but I have tried it both ways and when I know I have done stress but also pest pressure damage I know if that plant does not have that extra 1-2 weeks u most def can take a huge lose on quality and yeilds. 1-2 weeks for me is def worth it even if I was close to end. take it or leave it but I know for a fact when I started doing that if k ever had stress and gave that tip to others it most def saved the quality quite a bit and also made the product worth while. fungus gnats are nasty but most def controllable with proper watering and not letting them live there.
last 2-3 weeks before harvest I woild also lower temps, ppfd, co2 and follow vpd and lower rh, last week I would suggest having leaf temp under 70f and Also water less and make sure the plant knows it, it really does help and even using cold water vs having room way cold def pushes the colors at end and makes many pheno’s on testing this know they are at their ends.
point is everyone in gardening including myself has issues that could stress or get in our ways ( learning experience lol ) , any grower imo Inless blind if they say they don’t are full of shit. Same dudes that say they get 3-4lb off 600 watt led on every led. personally what I see is plants u could save by a lil extra time ( if u lower ur stuff it’s gonnea cost ya same as cutting earlier anyways)
personally everytime I got mad and harvested based on time and pissed of failures in garden it kicks me in the butt even more cause soo much of the quality is at the end and if that plant isn’t going at normal rate of production , it ain’t happening
just my 2 cents
My suggestion now is let ur medium dry out as much as u can before it’s too “dry” and has borderline capping, 2-5 times at least. Than water regular;y but make sure to not over water. Over watering is if not biggest failure on any level of grower ,It’s super easy to do exp if on automation or using organic things in medium. key is realize fungus gnats rely on the fungus/anaerobic medium. this can be soloved for ur round and make the best of it by doing this and letting ur planrs flower a extra 1-2 weeks. Why? Take this but I have tried it both ways and when I know I have done stress but also pest pressure damage I know if that plant does not have that extra 1-2 weeks u most def can take a huge lose on quality and yeilds. 1-2 weeks for me is def worth it even if I was close to end. take it or leave it but I know for a fact when I started doing that if k ever had stress and gave that tip to others it most def saved the quality quite a bit and also made the product worth while. fungus gnats are nasty but most def controllable with proper watering and not letting them live there.
last 2-3 weeks before harvest I woild also lower temps, ppfd, co2 and follow vpd and lower rh, last week I would suggest having leaf temp under 70f and Also water less and make sure the plant knows it, it really does help and even using cold water vs having room way cold def pushes the colors at end and makes many pheno’s on testing this know they are at their ends.
point is everyone in gardening including myself has issues that could stress or get in our ways ( learning experience lol ) , any grower imo Inless blind if they say they don’t are full of shit. Same dudes that say they get 3-4lb off 600 watt led on every led. personally what I see is plants u could save by a lil extra time ( if u lower ur stuff it’s gonnea cost ya same as cutting earlier anyways)
personally everytime I got mad and harvested based on time and pissed of failures in garden it kicks me in the butt even more cause soo much of the quality is at the end and if that plant isn’t going at normal rate of production , it ain’t happening
just my 2 cents
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Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
Thank you man I appreciate all your help bro…that was my plan I usually would run 10 weeks but I’m thinking 11 this run just to give them a chance to bulk up a bit….I guess on a plus side I’m going to have a bit of smoke for myself lol cause I won’t give any of this awayYou prolly did this already but worth the tip eh
My suggestion now is let ur medium dry out as much as u can before it’s too “dry” and has borderline capping, 2-5 times at least. Than water regular;y but make sure to not over water. Over watering is if not biggest failure on any level of grower ,It’s super easy to do exp if on automation or using organic things in medium. key is realize fungus gnats rely on the fungus/anaerobic medium. this can be soloved for ur round and make the best of it by doing this and letting ur planrs flower a extra 1-2 weeks. Why? Take this but I have tried it both ways and when I know I have done stress but also pest pressure damage I know if that plant does not have that extra 1-2 weeks u most def can take a huge lose on quality and yeilds. 1-2 weeks for me is def worth it even if I was close to end. take it or leave it but I know for a fact when I started doing that if k ever had stress and gave that tip to others it most def saved the quality quite a bit and also made the product worth while. fungus gnats are nasty but most def controllable with proper watering and not letting them live there.
last 2-3 before harvest I woild also lower temps, ppfd, co2 and follow vpd and lower rh, last week I would suggest having leaf temp under 70f and Also water less and make sure the plant knows it, it really does help and even using cold water vs having room way cold def pushes the colors at end and makes many pheno’s on testing this know they are at their ends.
point is everyone in gardening including myself has issues , any grower imo Inless blind if they say they don’t are full of shit. Same dudes that say they get 3-4lb off 600 watt led on every led. personally what I see is plants u could save by a lil extra time ( if u lower ur stuff it’s gonnea cost ya same as cutting earlier anyways)
personally everytime I got mad and harvested based on time and pissed of failures in garden it kicks me in the butt even more cause soo much of the quality is at the end and if that plant isn’t going at normal rate of production , it ain’t happening
just my 2 cents
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
Bro honestly I see ur leafs are the worst part, ur buds are looking good. I just can tell they def went into stress mode cause of that. worst part of leafs like that or if they fall/bdown is if u leave any of the leafs on , like even the smallest part. Ur weed will look bad. It’s lame and people honestly need to stop being such leaf nazi’s cause honestly harvest it right, cure it up. every stoner alive will want a gift or get some. don’t let ur perfection get ahold of you cause I do the same thing but it makes u more aware of how good ur normal stuff is cause I’ll be thinking a certain pheno is boo/c grade and than see others “ holy grails” and it def makes me aware, hey we are just at a diff level of what we demand
seriously thou, ur bud isnt contaminated and ur gonnea so know im right when u trim it and whatcha know those buds will be fine. But if u leave any of the leafs on = eye magnet
shoot I get so lovey with my plants I’ll grow em to their death and forget, oh yeah if u let their leafs die like that = makes trimming and bag a;peal def harder on ya
sorry wasn’t trying to rant or anything, I’m. Just thorough lol
plan b, send it all to me and I‘ll take the hit, j/k ?but lol
Psychobilly
🧀Muenster
Man that's some real talk about the leaves; I will sometimes trim something up "pretty" for pictures, but in reality most of my bud goes in a jar or bag looking like a 70s underwear catalog for a good cure lol.
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Happens. It's a tough time of year too. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. ?
Psychobilly
🧀Muenster
I've seen people use a tea kettle and put their medium in a bucket and pour the hot water in and let it soak to kill everything..... I feel like that literal scorched earth policy is not great though but I've never tested it.
Rocman91
In Bloom
This is the stuff I use . It's expensive but you only need alittle and it should last many runs . Wiped out a bad infestation of gnats in 2 weeks flat. I don't have not one now . Yeah I could see boiling water work too .
Idlewilder
Underground Chucker
I use this as well. It seems to work well enough. Add some mosquito bits too and it will really fuck up their day
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
That’s what I was treating for and it was actually fungus gnats lol I almost chopped every plant I have lol good thing I got that squared away
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
Mosquito bits on deck?
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Oh I should use this as well, more combatants the better lol. Hate gnats
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
2x that
Been using liquid BTI aka microbelift bmc for a few years now, way better version and cost efficient than the mosquito bits and similiar. gallon is way better cost , I use it once a week or every other rez at 1/2-1ml a gallon
Another bonus is the liquid BTI is way more concentrated (8% BTI) and has 2x as long shelf life ( 1 year after open or year on label vs 6months )
key like I said is keeping medium dry enough and having multi IPM tools like sticky traps to know ur pest pressure and catch some adults, airflow on ur medium to give air and also deter the adults from laying larvae . The BTI is only there to kill the larvae so if you allow the adults to thrive or over water you’re asking for the BTI to fail on you. It’s just an amazing control in general as long as u follow the instructions . I know if I see adults I’ll also lay a nice tea of every 5 gallons = 1 cup of neem seed and brew it for 2 days, bam adults are gonnea hate ya aka die and it will give a ISR effect to the bugs. Deters and also fucks their reproduction and other mode of action. Reason I suggest this at Least for future rounds is if I see adults the IPM besides deterring with air and not over watering.
neem seed is super cheap and man it works great against FG, tried so many products but to kill those adults I def vouche for using neem cake if u see gnats on yellow traps
Neem Seed Meal 6-1-2
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