Mushroom Cultivation

[spondylogrow]

Thanks for a rational reply @spondlygrow. You are right, I really can start small on the dosage. As a teenager in Hawaii we visited the cow fields way too often, serious overindulgence. As near as I can figure it has been about 30 years.

Speaking of overindulgence LSD memories scare the heck out of me too @stiickygreen. Got heavily dosed without knowing, it was not pretty. Thanks a lot.

How often do you indulge? Is it a stay home kinda high or do you do stuff?

Maybe I will try again…still get a little nervous.

You're welcome. I don't indulge too often, maybe a few times per year.

For me, it's a stay at home by myself with music on kinda thing. I just like to go into my own headspace, without distractions. Shit can be confusing enough, lol.

Like Mac says, you really don't have to worry about going too deep, if that is not your goal. I have had many good times, taking around or under just a couple of grams (of cubes). With a good body buzz, nice mood, sociable, vivid colors, etc.. I've taken "micro" doses as well, at around 0.3g and gone on about my day normally, just in a better mood. Which is what a lot of people are experimenting with nowadays, it seems. It's all really in your hands, after you've taken the plunge and cultivated them.

Spondyly!!! Way to show what's up. Teachers? Can you share some mono Tek?

Hey Mac! Them were Ecuadors, my friend.

I'll be happy to share a mono tek ... just as soon as I take the time to figure one out, lol. I haven't studied up on it enough yet. Right now I'm only on the agar portion of the process. Got plates made, and spores here ready to go. Just need to kick it in gear. Thanks for the push!

 

[jpcyan2]

@spyralout - Nice addition to the site Appreciate the good vibes my friend, and the kind words from you.

@macsnax - Nicely done! No harm in letting those veils break. Some may double, even triple in size before the caps flatten, the gills darken, and spores are released. Usually only a day or two (at most) window there, so keep an eye on 'em.
Have you taken any prints? Those white ones are beautiful. I'm interested in seeing if they produce spores, and are easy to print.
Unless you have the money to burn, no need for a laminar flow hood. Cloning, agar/petris, liquid culture, grain to grain transfers, and most everything else can be done in a decently designed, sealed glove box. My success rate with the laminar hood is no better than sterile work in a decent GB. Though I rarely use either. My environment isnt the cleanest however. A small room in a wet, old basement with plants just feet away and a constant airflow
But.. the laminar has other potential uses, like tissue culture. It is also easier to work in front of than a cumbersome GB. It does take some practice and proper technique.

@spondylogrow _ Beautiful flush there! It's really hard to beat the simplicity, success rate, and low maintenance strategy of the PFtek. RR and RK do a really nice job in that video. I dont do everything exactly as they describe, but the basics they give are solid as rock. Both are old pros, I was lucky enough to chat often with both PF and RR back in the day
I prefer small mono or dub tubs for cased substrates. If one shoebox tub gets green, its out and the rest have a fighting chance. Most of my experience with larger tubs ended with green getting in. But I've never really grown for bulk, more so for the enjoyment and learning experience and challenge.

Good stuff all, I'll start a thread, maybe not so much a gro log , but a tips, teks, methods, and info type thing. With a few grows to show from the past and.. present?

 

[macsnax]

You're welcome. I don't indulge too often, maybe a few times per year.

For me, it's a stay at home by myself with music on kinda thing. I just like to go into my own headspace, without distractions. Shit can be confusing enough, lol.

Like Mac says, you really don't have to worry about going too deep, if that is not your goal. I have had many good times, taking around or under just a couple of grams (of cubes). With a good body buzz, nice mood, sociable, vivid colors, etc.. I've taken "micro" doses as well, at around 0.3g and gone on about my day normally, just in a better mood. Which is what a lot of people are experimenting with nowadays, it seems. It's all really in your hands, after you've taken the plunge and cultivated them.


Hey Mac! Them were Ecuadors, my friend.

I'll be happy to share a mono tek ... just as soon as I take the time to figure one out, lol. I haven't studied up on it enough yet. Right now I'm only on the agar portion of the process. Got plates made, and spores here ready to go. Just need to kick it in gear. Thanks for the push!

Alright man, I didn't know you were into growing these. Really cool stuff isn't it? I'll be watching what your up to for sure ?

 

[macsnax]

@spyralout - Nice addition to the site Appreciate the good vibes my friend, and the kind words from you.

@macsnax - Nicely done! No harm in letting those veils break. Some may double, even triple in size before the caps flatten, the gills darken, and spores are released. Usually only a day or two (at most) window there, so keep an eye on 'em.
Have you taken any prints? Those white ones are beautiful. I'm interested in seeing if they produce spores, and are easy to print.
Unless you have the money to burn, no need for a laminar flow hood. Cloning, agar/petris, liquid culture, grain to grain transfers, and most everything else can be done in a decently designed, sealed glove box. My success rate with the laminar hood is no better than sterile work in a decent GB. Though I rarely use either. My environment isnt the cleanest however. A small room in a wet, old basement with plants just feet away and a constant airflow
But.. the laminar has other potential uses, like tissue culture. It is also easier to work in front of than a cumbersome GB. It does take some practice and proper technique.

@spondylogrow _ Beautiful flush there! It's really hard to beat the simplicity, success rate, and low maintenance strategy of the PFtek. RR and RK do a really nice job in that video. I dont do everything exactly as they describe, but the basics they give are solid as rock. Both are old pros, I was lucky enough to chat often with both PF and RR back in the day
I prefer small mono or dub tubs for cased substrates. If one shoebox tub gets green, its out and the rest have a fighting chance. Most of my experience with larger tubs ended with green getting in. But I've never really grown for bulk, more so for the enjoyment and learning experience and challenge.

Good stuff all, I'll start a thread, maybe not so much a gro log , but a tips, teks, methods, and info type thing. With a few grows to show from the past and.. present?

To be honest I've read too much about when is the right time to take them. I gave up on looking for an answer and just kinda feel like it will come to me as I go lol. Haven't taken prints and I don't have the stuff to do so yet. I have a rather large shopping list that I'm going to sit down and finalize today and the rest will be coming....... GB? Forgive my ignorance..... But I plan on getting into some tissue culture stuff in the future too. I want my library backed up and I really dig how a cut can be given new life through TC.

 

[SCJedi]

....... GB? Forgive my ignorance..... But I plan on getting into some tissue culture stuff in the future too. I want my library backed up and I really dig how a cut can be given new life through TC.

Glove Box, also referred to in the myco world as a Still Air Box, or SAB

 

[macsnax]

Glove Box, also referred to in the myco world as a Still Air Box, or SAB

Yup ok, I knew that lol

 

[macsnax]

@spyralout - Nice addition to the site Appreciate the good vibes my friend, and the kind words from you.

@macsnax - Nicely done! No harm in letting those veils break. Some may double, even triple in size before the caps flatten, the gills darken, and spores are released. Usually only a day or two (at most) window there, so keep an eye on 'em.
Have you taken any prints? Those white ones are beautiful. I'm interested in seeing if they produce spores, and are easy to print.
Unless you have the money to burn, no need for a laminar flow hood. Cloning, agar/petris, liquid culture, grain to grain transfers, and most everything else can be done in a decently designed, sealed glove box. My success rate with the laminar hood is no better than sterile work in a decent GB. Though I rarely use either. My environment isnt the cleanest however. A small room in a wet, old basement with plants just feet away and a constant airflow
But.. the laminar has other potential uses, like tissue culture. It is also easier to work in front of than a cumbersome GB. It does take some practice and proper technique.

@spondylogrow _ Beautiful flush there! It's really hard to beat the simplicity, success rate, and low maintenance strategy of the PFtek. RR and RK do a really nice job in that video. I dont do everything exactly as they describe, but the basics they give are solid as rock. Both are old pros, I was lucky enough to chat often with both PF and RR back in the day
I prefer small mono or dub tubs for cased substrates. If one shoebox tub gets green, its out and the rest have a fighting chance. Most of my experience with larger tubs ended with green getting in. But I've never really grown for bulk, more so for the enjoyment and learning experience and challenge.

Good stuff all, I'll start a thread, maybe not so much a gro log , but a tips, teks, methods, and info type thing. With a few grows to show from the past and.. present?

I didn't mean to leave that as a closed for buddy...... So I want to let the veil break and watch for the cap to start flattening out? I'm trying to figure it out, but feel like I'm all over the place with it lol.

 

[macsnax]

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[spondylogrow]

Prints are easy. Just need a piece of aluminum foil, and something to cover the cap while it sits over night, or however long you let it stay. Take the fresh mushroom, cut the stem off of the cap, set the cap on a clean piece of foil, cover with a glass/tupperware/etc and wait 24 hrs or so. Next day you should have a print. Just wrap it up in foil and store it away until ready to use. You will want to give the mushroom time to fully open and flatten out in order to do this.

This print was made from the far left one in the 2nd picture.

 

[SCJedi]

There are several levels of air control in sterile work, each has added benefits of being able to work more comfortably.

In order: Glove Box/Still Air Box, Countertop Laminar Flow Box, Full Laminar Flow Hood, Clean Room

Prints are easy. Just need a piece of aluminum foil, and something to cover the cap while it sits over night, or however long you let it stay. Take the fresh mushroom, cut the stem off of the cap, set the cap on a clean piece of foil, cover with a glass/tupperware/etc and wait 24 hrs or so. Next day you should have a print. Just wrap it up in foil and store it away until ready to use. You will want to give the mushroom time to fully open and flatten out in order to do this.

This print was made from the far left one in the 2nd picture.

Nice thick print!

 

[macsnax]

Prints are easy. Just need a piece of aluminum foil, and something to cover the cap while it sits over night, or however long you let it stay. Take the fresh mushroom, cut the stem off of the cap, set the cap on a clean piece of foil, cover with a glass/tupperware/etc and wait 24 hrs or so. Next day you should have a print. Just wrap it up in foil and store it away until ready to use. You will want to give the mushroom time to fully open and flatten out in order to do this.

This print was made from the far left one in the 2nd picture.

Ya so idk much about that. You don't have to worry about absolute sterility? Gloves and pull n stick?

 

[spondylogrow]

Ya so idk much about that. You don't have to worry about absolute sterility? Gloves and pull n stick?

Not really. Do what you can to keep things clean, but total sterility, no.

 

[macsnax]

So this run is coming to and end, looks like I have some contam going here or am awful lot of mycelial bruising. Pinset has really slowed too. But I have been watching this guy form and got up this morning for my check everything routine. I know it's deformed af but I think it's absolutely beautiful.

 

[jpcyan2]

Looks like rosecomb or bubble disease, but could be a mutation or outside contaminant like lysol can cause similar formation.

I'm not seeing any signs of contaminants. The only suspect area is directly below that dformed mushroom.. and I'm not sure if it is contam or spores.
Your cakes might be a bit dry.
If you are in between flushes, clean off any aborts after harvesting any mature specimens and rinse the cakes. Then dunk (submerged not floating) in cool/cold water for 12-24 hrs. You can also add 5ml to 15 ml of bleach per gallon of water.
Let those cakes re-hydrate and keep em going. They will continue to produce.

for more info search "Dunk Tek"

 

[macsnax]

Looks like rosecomb or bubble disease, but could be a mutation or outside contaminant like lysol can cause similar formation.

I'm not seeing any signs of contaminants. The only suspect area is directly below that dformed mushroom.. and I'm not sure if it is contam or spores.
Your cakes might be a bit dry.
If you are in between flushes, clean off any aborts after harvesting any mature specimens and rinse the cakes. Then dunk (submerged not floating) in cool/cold water for 12-24 hrs. You can also add 5ml to 15 ml of bleach per gallon of water.
Let those cakes re-hydrate and keep em going. They will continue to produce.

for more info search "Dunk Tek"

Idk man just thought it looked cool lol. I'm enjoying this stuff so much that I'm nerding out a lil. And you're totally right those cakes have dried out some. They'll get soaked tonight for sure, I'm still figuring out the timing on everything. Great tip on the bleach, I didn't know that could be done. Should help with possible contam issues.

 

[GCG]

yes same...just outside of Orlando in Oviedo and Chuluota cow pastures ...the good ole days

Went to college in Gainesville, Fl and we used to walk through Paines Prairie to the farms that bordered the park for Schrooms. Huge bags of them. Never really liked them though. Trip was always really mellow and very short lived for me. Would get shrooms to sell and buy acid to eat. Eat a few window panes, smoke a shitload of weed and pound beers like water. I LOVED acid but now as I approach my 50's I want to reaquaint myself to shrooms again. Need to see if time has changed how shrooms and I interact.

 

[macsnax]

Sooooo guess who is having a somewhat psychedelic day on accident ?. I gotta get the shit to make capsules. Been microdosing, just weighing out dry shrooms. But the potency can vary from shroom to shroom cap to cap, etc. Gotta grind a bunch up for consistency. Anywho there goes my plans, my day became a lil more psychedelic than I bargained for FML ???.

 

[Srenots]

Sooooo guess who is having a somewhat psychedelic day on accident ?. I gotta get the shit to make capsules. Been microdosing, just weighing out dry shrooms. But the potency can vary from shroom to shroom cap to cap, etc. Gotta grind a bunch up for consistency. Anywho there goes my plans, my day became a lil more psychedelic than I bargained for FML ???.

on accident, rite on ~

 

[macsnax]

on accident, rite on ~

Dude I'm not like tripping balls, but def more psychedelic activity than I needed today. Had plans to get some shit done and it turned into hanging with the wife and daughter just chillin. Worse things can happen in life, I'm just rollin with the punches lol. Tempted to make it count if I went this far

 

[JL2G]

Dude I'm not like tripping balls, but def more psychedelic activity than I needed today. Had plans to get some shit done and it turned into hanging with the wife and daughter just chillin. Worse things can happen in life, I'm just rollin with the punches lol. Tempted to make it count if I went this far

When I was doing my mind experiments I'd use a mortar and pestle to grind it into a rough granulated mix.
Then I'd use weighed amounts and steep it in a coffee cup of hot water. Let it cool and slug it down in one shot. Material and all.
Called it a shit shot. Lol.
Was using about a qp a month ongoing for about a year real heavy. Was a great time. Lol.

I think I need another mind altering episode in my life. Lol.