thenotsoesoteric
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Mushroom Cultivation
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Idlewilder
Underground Chucker
Pf tek?
Chip Green
In Bloom
Was looking at reloading with pre made supplies from Midwest, and I stumbled into those monobag kits.
I'm trying a couple. I did well with their jars, those bags seemed pretty nifty. Liquid culture jar too. Works great.
I know I can make all this stuff, but I just really don't want to. At all.
I'm trying a couple. I did well with their jars, those bags seemed pretty nifty. Liquid culture jar too. Works great.
I know I can make all this stuff, but I just really don't want to. At all.
Ya, its the vermiculite/brown rice cakes. I made my own syringes from a spore print of B+. Was really hoping for the simplicity B+ are known for on the maiden voyage with this.
Chip Green
In Bloom
Now, a liquid culture jar, if it were to become contaminated, it would be rather evident, correct? This has been sitting on a darkish shelf in my coolish, non basementy- basement, for about 9 months. I used it successfully about 7 months ago.
What's throwing me off, is the brownish liquid. Before I stirred it recently, there was a pristine white layer over 1/4" thick floating on the surface.
The brown liquid, it's brown. The non pure white appearance has gotten into my head, that this jar is contaminated.
I don't need it, but man it would sure help if I could use this.
If I try it on say, a grain hat, I'd know fairly quickly that I had a problem correct? Yellow, green, black hues in the grain ect....
Let's hear some stories about how long a liquid culture had lasted.
What's throwing me off, is the brownish liquid. Before I stirred it recently, there was a pristine white layer over 1/4" thick floating on the surface.
The brown liquid, it's brown. The non pure white appearance has gotten into my head, that this jar is contaminated.
I don't need it, but man it would sure help if I could use this.
If I try it on say, a grain hat, I'd know fairly quickly that I had a problem correct? Yellow, green, black hues in the grain ect....
Let's hear some stories about how long a liquid culture had lasted.
Chip Green
In Bloom
Wtf is a grain hat????
Grain JAR.
Idlewilder
Underground Chucker
I was scratching my head on that one too ?. I didn’t have anything useful for you situation so I left it alone haha
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im so over it. all of that. nothing is more frustrating than spending a day cooking grains, drying them, then a day pressure cooking them, and then 3/4 of them contam on you because youre a stupid idiot trying to do too much and failing at all of it.
I bought a 6 pack of the grain bags and such and have 5/6 luck on them, much better. fuck it, id rather just spend the money and actually make it to the finish line, lol.
Brokehoe
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I ended up with 2 bags of whole grain brown rice and 2 bags of long grain white rice. I don't know how the less nutrients(half the calcium)and more refined rice will be. It's all they had here other than flavored varieties. ?
I'm gonna try it out. Should give me enough time to collect substrate and bins for a shoebox bulk run. ?
I'm gonna try it out. Should give me enough time to collect substrate and bins for a shoebox bulk run. ?
NarlyGardens
Rooted
The issue with white rice is the lack of hull on the grain. Way harder to get it back down to a moisture level where it doesn’t stick together but still contains enough moisture for the mycelium. I’ve never used white rice, but I would imagine shaking up the grain jar is going to be quite difficult. Brown rice is a great starting grain. Easy to prep, is pretty clean straight out of the bag, and is usually easy to find. It is great for grain to grain inoculations, as the smaller grain size means more inoculation points. If you start doing anything semi-bulk then the price of rice will add up quick. Whole oats from a feed/ farm store have been my go to for the past year or so. Can’t beat 17$ for 40lbs of certified organic oats.
Brokehoe
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I should clarify. I'm copying @thenotsoesoteric Uncle Ben adventure with 8.8 Oz pre cooked rice package. I was looking for the brown rice bags but the store only had 2 in stocks so I grab 2 more of plain white. After bags are inoculated I will move to coco/gypsum. It's small scale bulk style, test run. I will take all advice I can get.
I will also be inoculating logs this week. Blue Oyster, Chicken of the Woods and shiitake. I hope
thenotsoesoteric
American Ninja
Im not sure how the different rice will react but for $2 a bag its worth trying for sure.
Knock on wood im a few days to a week out till full colonization.
Brokehoe
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The only thing I'm really worried about is lack of nutrients in the white and I think it has some added chemicals.
Hell yes, what flavor you cooking?
lol I don't recommend that rice method, agar to grains to bulk substrate(coir) is a cakewalk.
Rye, oats, sorghum, or wheat plus millet is what I cook. Sometimes I just soak it for 12-24 hrs in warm tap water then drain and pc. They do cook in the pc cycle but if your culture isn't very strong you will have better results cooking it before pc'ing.
When cooking, I rinse my grains, bring the larger grain to a froth or near boil. Remove from heat, add millet 30-45 minutes later. For simplicity I let this sit overnight or so, up to ~24 hrs. Sometimes just a few hours and then dry overnight in a bucket. Hair dryers and fans work great to quick dry. Screens are great for drying but unnecessary
If grain is well cooked and hydrated on the higher side(fat almost translucent, smush easy, maybe some burst) you will want them quite dry before pc'ing. Maybe you just through some warm water in a bucket with the grain for overnight, it can be wetter in the jar before Pc'ing and come out great!
Rye, oats, sorghum, or wheat plus millet is what I cook. Sometimes I just soak it for 12-24 hrs in warm tap water then drain and pc. They do cook in the pc cycle but if your culture isn't very strong you will have better results cooking it before pc'ing.
When cooking, I rinse my grains, bring the larger grain to a froth or near boil. Remove from heat, add millet 30-45 minutes later. For simplicity I let this sit overnight or so, up to ~24 hrs. Sometimes just a few hours and then dry overnight in a bucket. Hair dryers and fans work great to quick dry. Screens are great for drying but unnecessary
If grain is well cooked and hydrated on the higher side(fat almost translucent, smush easy, maybe some burst) you will want them quite dry before pc'ing. Maybe you just through some warm water in a bucket with the grain for overnight, it can be wetter in the jar before Pc'ing and come out great!
thenotsoesoteric
American Ninja
What do you fine folks do to dry mushrooms? Food dehydrator is fine I'd assume, no?
I read about a method where you cook Epsom salt for a few hours to remove a water molecule which basically make the salt a desiccant. You place that cooked salt at bottom of box then set mushrooms on little racks above salt. Let sit till mushies are cracker dry.
Seems like a lot of bullshitting vs a $40 dehydrator going overnight.
I read about a method where you cook Epsom salt for a few hours to remove a water molecule which basically make the salt a desiccant. You place that cooked salt at bottom of box then set mushrooms on little racks above salt. Let sit till mushies are cracker dry.
Seems like a lot of bullshitting vs a $40 dehydrator going overnight.
Chip Green
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I've always used a small tub, with a mesh rack to suspend the fruits, above a container of Damp Rid.
Brokehoe
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I read that about the desiccant also. Most people I see just throw them in dehydrator, that's what I'm gonna do also. Why? Because I have one and it's easy. Also I'm stupid and will fuck something up real quick. ?
thenotsoesoteric
American Ninja
Idlewilder
Underground Chucker
Yes, a dehydrator is good, just use the lowest heat setting. If you want to go even cheaper, put them in front of a fan going full blast,
Dry in 3 days versus 1 with a dehydrator
Dry in 3 days versus 1 with a dehydrator
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