Music and DISCUSSION Thread

Manidoo

In Bloom
I have to admit that Shock Rock was always something that drew me in due to the contrary nature and attraction. I never really liked the cookie cutter thing regardless of the genre.

I grew up listening to classic rock and country when I was with my dear old grandmother. She taught me to appreciate Jonny Cash early in my childhood. He was one of the few that spoke about the injustice of the church and state against the Indian. Guess you can say he was the epitome of country music shock value.

My father watched Jim Morrison take down the State theater back in the day due to his drunken antics and a pissed off crowd. The Doors where banished from Lansing. Jim was a man few can ever understand

Okay I could ramble on and on about the shockers from marylny Manson to the craziest like GG Allen, but I will end this with my first real introduction to the shock rock.

I was around eight to nine years old and was chilling on recess when a friend busted out an old tape recorder. He had recorded his father's Kiss Album the night before. He said to me, If you listen to this song, your gonna go to hell! I remember thinking about how many times I crawled out of the hells my mother escaped with us children in tow and I replied already been to hell. He hit play and I heard Kiss for the first time. Heavens on Fire, embedded in my mind then and there and then he pulled the Album Cover out of his backpack to show me what they looked like. Man was I intrigued by it all.

I have studied the occult world deeply and I understand that illuminati and Hollywood, but there's more to it all and Detroit definitely had more influence then it is often accredited for. Within it all is a lot of subliminal and I won't even open up that can of worms here. Instead of let's just enjoy the music lol

 

Amarok

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I have to admit that Shock Rock was always something that drew me in due to the contrary nature and attraction.
For me, Shock isn't enough, there has to be more than that or it gets old in a hurry.

I've been a Demented Are Go fan for close to half my life, ever since I heard Pickled and Preserved and Transvestite Blues on Stompin' At the Klubfoot. I like the shock value, the "freak out the squares" mentality, but it is the humour that made me seek out as much of their catalogue as I could find.

To people of the 60s and 70s, Alice Cooper was the self-decapitating freak who sang about bleeding women and dead babies. Take a look a little deeper look at the lyrics though, and Only Women Bleed is a sensitive song about domestic abuse while Dead Babies is about neglected children.

Sure Cold Ethyl and I Love the Dead are straight up homages to necrophilia, but Cooper was so much more than just Shock.
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Love me some Johnny too. Grew up with Folsom Prison Blues on 8-track. That's where I first heard his cover of The Ballad of Ira Hayes. He's another one who is great at combining humour with a serious important message. He even had a bit of gangsta in him. The story of "Cocaine Blues" could have easily been an Ice T song.
 

Ramjet159

pHeno pHisher
For me, Shock isn't enough, there has to be more than that or it gets old in a hurry.

I've been a Demented Are Go fan for close to half my life, ever since I heard Pickled and Preserved and Transvestite Blues on Stompin' At the Klubfoot. I like the shock value, the "freak out the squares" mentality, but it is the humour that made me seek out as much of their catalogue as I could find.

To people of the 60s and 70s, Alice Cooper was the self-decapitating freak who sang about bleeding women and dead babies. Take a look a little deeper look at the lyrics though, and Only Women Bleed is a sensitive song about domestic abuse while Dead Babies is about neglected children.

Sure Cold Ethyl and I Love the Dead are straight up homages to necrophilia, but Cooper was so much more than just Shock.
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Love me some Johnny too. Grew up with Folsom Prison Blues on 8-track. That's where I first heard his cover of The Ballad of Ira Hayes. He's another one who is great at combining humour with a serious important message. He even had a bit of gangsta in him. The story of "Cocaine Blues" could have easily been an Ice T song.
You gotta think the days of shock value are dead and buried in the world we now live in regardless of music or wherever .Kinda lost the last of that when the internet opened up the world to the morbid crap that’s become readily accessible if you want to find it . Shock ………where???
 

Amarok

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You gotta think the days of shock value are dead and buried in the world we now live in regardless of music or wherever .Kinda lost the last of that when the internet opened up the world to the morbid crap that’s become readily accessible if you want to find it . Shock ………where???
@Manidoo mentioned G G Allin. If you haven't seen his work, you should have a look. I think you may find a little capacity for shock remains in you.

Allin has fans, but I've only ever seen him as pathetic.
He couldn't even die right. After a career of self abuse, he'd always promised to kill himself live on stage, but he ended up just another backroom OD.

GG+Allin+bestofggdvd.jpg
 

Ramjet159

pHeno pHisher
@Manidoo mentioned G G Allin. If you haven't seen his work, you should have a look. I think you may find a little capacity for shock remains in you.

Allin has fans, but I've only ever seen him as pathetic.
He couldn't even die right. After a career of self abuse, he'd always promised to kill himself live on stage, but he ended up just another backroom OD.

GG+Allin+bestofggdvd.jpg
Someone one day had this movie called The Serbian Movie , yeah original I know so we stuck it on thinking how bad can it be right? . I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more messed up movie than that . It’s so twisted the first thing I thought was someone presented this script to producers and somehow they thought it would be a good idea to make it . I won’t even remotely describe what it’s about it’s that immoral ?
 

Manidoo

In Bloom
I had to tell others that Marilyn Manson was nothing in comparison with the old school shock rock and roll. More like a glam rock shock thing with a distaste for Christianity at the core. In all actuality zimzum and the rest of the band were much more interesting than Marilyn himself even though he is a intelligent person that was definitely twisted early in life as he has explained in interview and autobiography.

GG Allen, craziest of them all imo and it was insanely crazy seeing him live covered in his own feces and vomit unlike Manson and his drop light stage performance.

Man those were a whole different world and time away from today. But I do think it was Banged up .com that opened up the doors to the online insanity and beyond if ones tracking it down online lol
 

Amarok

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it was Banged up .com that opened up the doors to the online insanity
And rottenDOTcom and Consumption Junction(what's your dysfunction?) and BumFights, and before the 'net there was the Faces of Death series.

I had friends that went down that hell hole, but a quick glance and I noped the fuck out. The world presents enough spontaneous ugliness, I don't need to seek out extra.

(@Ramjet159 I've heard of the Serbian Movie and read a synopsis and that's another one I'll never watch.) (n):cry:
 

Amarok

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Saw this a while back and really enjoyed it. For all the modern press about his sad end, it seems Elvis Presley was a pretty damn fine human being in many ways. He had his flaws, but bigotry does not appear to be on that list.



Also, fuck Chuck D and his whiny bullshit. Every Black person they talk to who knew Elvis says nothing but good. The Astrodome story is fantastic.

I love that they show him bitching about Presley being called the King and immediately follow it with B.B. King saying it was earned.
(it isn't shown here, but I've read that Presley never cared for that title and never used it himself)
 

Amarok

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Some people call me a bad apple
Now I may be bruised
But I still taste sweet




You think you've got the world sewed up
You never did learn how to treat a man
You need to eat a slice of humble pie
And the longer you wait the worse it's gonna taste
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Love me that Welsh freakshow psychobilly. Can't believe they are still at it.



Hehe, Demented Are Go is far and away my absolute FAVORITE Psychobilly band ever. Sparky is an amazing front man and the way he does his vocals is like..... Punk Tuvan Throat Singing ? LOL I've heard throat singing before and Sparky with his vocal style, reminds me of that but with some of his own flavor on it. I listen to quite a bit of different styles of music; Everything from Gwar and Ozzy to Johnny Cash and Hank Williams, his Grandson Hank III, Acid Bath, Slayer, Tool, Janis Joplin, The Stooges, MC5, Alice Cooper, NIN, Skinny Puppy, TSOL, Ramones, Misfits, White Zombie, Jerry Lee Lewis, Wanda Jackson, Patsy Cline, Cannibal Corpse, Lords of Acid, Howlin' Wolf, Koffin Kats, D-12, Eminem, ESHAM, Stray Cats.... I could keep going but I like Industrial, Punk, Rockabilly, Psychobilly, Metal, oldschool Blues and Jazz, "Outlaw Country", Rap, Acid Rap, Techno, Ska and Reggae.... Basically anything except Disco; I don't think I can afford a cocaine habit big enough to listen to Disco, it's just not my thing. I don't care of other people like it of course, I just don't personally. I try to be a judgement free zone, which is part of my core Belief system as a Christian.
 
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