Neville's Haze Preservation
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Yeah, still working out the details. Not expecting to finish in time to nab one of the ac infinity fans lol.
Thanks for that link will be digging through there to see if anyone documented a 12/12 from seed or 12/12 - 14/10 - 12/12 run. If these dont start showing before the rest of my room finishes (4+weeks) I might bump the daylight up.
They got first feed yesterday, 300 ppm megacrop 1part.
I'll single them out when it gets more interisting
17d from getring wet 15d from hitting soil.
I'll single them out when it gets more interisting
17d from getring wet 15d from hitting soil.
24 days from getting wet, call it 3 weeks above ground.
Transplant day 1/2 gallon hydroton square pots for the win.
Yeah one MDR no.8 is gonna have to fight to survive, then maybe get a spot at the table.
The res is at 1.1 part MC part A to 1 part Cal Nit @ 4g/gal (2.1 g/gal MCA and 1.9g/gal Cal Nit) and 0.5g/gal ea. of Epsom, MOAB and Pickle Crisp for a total of 5.5g/gal landing @850ppm pH adjusted to 5.8.
Roots were a little tootight on NH and leaves were drooping last couple days while MDR looked fine.
NH - had to untangle the bottom
MDR - just a light tickling
Transplant day 1/2 gallon hydroton square pots for the win.
Yeah one MDR no.8 is gonna have to fight to survive, then maybe get a spot at the table.
The res is at 1.1 part MC part A to 1 part Cal Nit @ 4g/gal (2.1 g/gal MCA and 1.9g/gal Cal Nit) and 0.5g/gal ea. of Epsom, MOAB and Pickle Crisp for a total of 5.5g/gal landing @850ppm pH adjusted to 5.8.
Roots were a little tootight on NH and leaves were drooping last couple days while MDR looked fine.
NH - had to untangle the bottom
MDR - just a light tickling
Getting tip burn at on the NH at 850, backed down 780.
The MdRs are handling it fine but they arent the focus here. I have 2 females showing there, nothing yet for NH.
They have been seeking some more intense light and they will get it... next week.
The MdRs are handling it fine but they arent the focus here. I have 2 females showing there, nothing yet for NH.
They have been seeking some more intense light and they will get it... next week.
NH 1 has notably more side branch growth than the others.
NH 2 is showing female
NH 7 is showing male
Some slight indications of sex on the others.
NH 2 is showing female
NH 7 is showing male
Some slight indications of sex on the others.
Added some Calcium Nitrate yesterday (1gal 690ppm) to a 12 gal target vol that was running a little low and higher on ppm than I wanted (850 iirc). The cal nit brought it to 790 or so.
The light makes them look more pale, in reality they are lime. The MdR by comparison are more green and less purple than they look.
No.1 is the branchiest and still isn't showing anything.
No. 7 looks like he wants to get going.
So I am plucking them and debating on topping the males to slow them down a touch. Or st least this one.
Never had this kind of symetry with this many.
2,4,6 and 8 are female
1,3,5 and 7 are male
Today during some I realized these are getting a about half the silica I would normally be giving up to this stage. MC 1 part and MC Part A are the same silica content. I would be near 4.5g/gal mc 1 part at this point instead they are getting 2.1g/gal MC part A.
Added 25ml sillica in 2 gallons, so I did dilute the res a bit, but will leave it at 710ppm for today.
Gonna pick up an airline manifold tommorow so I take cuts.
2,4,6 and 8 are female
1,3,5 and 7 are male
Today during some I realized these are getting a about half the silica I would normally be giving up to this stage. MC 1 part and MC Part A are the same silica content. I would be near 4.5g/gal mc 1 part at this point instead they are getting 2.1g/gal MC part A.
Added 25ml sillica in 2 gallons, so I did dilute the res a bit, but will leave it at 710ppm for today.
Gonna pick up an airline manifold tommorow so I take cuts.
Looks like one of the boys will be culled.
It is the one that I have been plucking the sacs from as they open because it is so far ahead.
Cuts were taken a few days ago, question would be do I cull them?
Its looking more like I may have to collect pollen and do branch pollenation on a run of cuts to get a good distribution because there is still one boy that is barely showing.
It is the one that I have been plucking the sacs from as they open because it is so far ahead.
Cuts were taken a few days ago, question would be do I cull them?
Its looking more like I may have to collect pollen and do branch pollenation on a run of cuts to get a good distribution because there is still one boy that is barely showing.
Buck5050
Underground Chucker
That's a head-scratcher. He's definitely moving at a blistering pace even for a male. Maybe he's holding a gene that makes him finish a week or two faster than most? If that were the case, then you'd definitely not want to remove that from the gene pool. Allowing him to spew as everything else matures would also cause oddly dominant pollination by himself. Damn, this is a tough one. Can you isolate and reintroduce once you feel it's more of a balanced timing wise?
There are certainly a few condiderations and this is where work ethic vs. hobbyist will collide.
Do I want to run this thing out? - No
Will I? -....
I am unable to maintain the temperatures and humidities this cultivar hails from. If I put 20K into my room I could but I tell you now that ain't happenin. I am 68-80F 45-55rh, I summer I can bump the temp but can't manage the rh.
I do maintain what I feel are acceptable parameters to avoid intersex. Outside of running a lab analysis on my nutes I feel like I have done everything there. There isn't a contaminant (hormone/pgr) in mc at a level of concern otherwise others would have seen a higher prevalance of intersex as I did my last run.
The CMH is another variable new last round, perhaps I will get a bulb that dosen't emmit any uv for finishing.
I havent cut him down yet and could certainly let this roll out and potentially collect masculinized seeds.
Perhaps I wasn't clear, there are some pistils.
Buck5050
Underground Chucker
Yeah, I see that now. Sorry I didn't look closer. That's no bueno, my friend. I wouldn't think anyone here wants you breeding with that thing. At a minimum, I would say keel his ass and go from there.
EmeraldDragon
Rooted
Strange. We used start nevils haze on 12/12 from seed and they would never sex that quickly. All so they would stretch a whole lote more then that from seed . Yours look quite uniform phenotype wise too. Will be intresting to see what happens in the next generation. Good luck with the repo guys.
I actually see 3 pheonos myself. Call it tall, short and inbetween.
There is a faster flowereing female.
Wider leaf female
and taller female
The 2 that look to be lording over in the back tray, front tray is the boys and there are 4 of adifferent cultivar along the front that show how tall the NH are comparitively.
The boys pan out similar.
Taller on left, quick draw front left, bushmaster back right and inbetween front right.
Any input from growers of this cultivar is welcome.
Though there are is undoubtedly experience there (raydeator having one of the more complete documentations), I do not feel that is the best forum to ask the questions I have, as the creator is still making these. I don't get the sense my questions would be welcome there and I am not looking for conflict.
I'm not sure an open pollination is the best way to go with this one @Deebs and I recall that bieng part of the deal.
I think the bushy male is an nl5 leaner and hazes a and c must be repesented by the taller plants.
What's the consensus on open pollenation? Would everyone be ok if I cull all but the bushmaster this first run? I have unrooted cuts of each.
chiefer888
In Bloom
How many of each sex would that leave? In my opinion culling plants with clear undesirable traits so long as you are otherwise aiming for optimal genetic diversity should be allowable.
Any input from our more experienced chuckers would likely weigh more heavily than my newb opinion.
Any input from our more experienced chuckers would likely weigh more heavily than my newb opinion.
Buck5050
Underground Chucker
We are in uncharted waters, my friend. Not a ton of guidance on what is and what ain't proper with these preservation runs. We can only strive to do the best we can with what we are given. IMO doing your best to opening up the genetic diversity in any way possible and turning it into seed is successful preservation. Any which way one is to go about it shouldn't really matter in the end.
