Ricky's Trailer Park

ricky_simples

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Tints a hell of a guy too. Always trying something new and willing to help. A ton of great information there. (y)
He really is. I sent him a private message and he circled back and he answered my questions and even put together a few charts / breakdowns to support his answers. I'm blown away at the time and effort it must have taken to do that for a complete stranger such as myself. People like that have big hearts and it's rare nowadays.

Anyways I'm going to try and break out of my shell over here... I need to venture outside of the trailer park and see what my neighbors on Phenohunter have going on. I've been so consumed with trying to figure out these issues that I haven't really bothered at looking at other peoples grows because it would make me sad that my plants cant be like that lol.

Happy Friday to everyone.
 
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DopeDaniel

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He really is. I sent him a private message and he circled back and he answered my questions and even put together a few charts / breakdowns to support his answers. I'm blown away at the time and effort it must have taken to do that for a complete stranger such as myself. People like that have big hearts and it's rare nowadays.

Anyways I'm going to try and break out of my shell over here... I need to venture outside of the trailer park and see what my neighbors on Phenohunter have going on. I've been so consumed with trying to figure out these issues that I haven't really bothered at looking at other peoples grows because it would make me sad that my plants cant be like that lol.

Happy Friday to everyone.
I tell you just reading other journals helps. I often pick up on nuances that were not a focal point of the discussion. You may find some useful info in the attached pdf.
A simple document with some good base points I think.
 

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He really is. I sent him a private message and he circled back and he answered my questions and even put together a few charts / breakdowns to support his answers. I'm blown away at the time and effort it must have taken to do that for a complete stranger such as myself. People like that have big hearts and it's rare nowadays.

Anyways I'm going to try and break out of my shell over here... I need to venture outside of the trailer park and see what my neighbors on Phenohunter have going on. I've been so consumed with trying to figure out these issues that I haven't really bothered at looking at other peoples grows because it would make me sad that my plants cant be like that lol.

Happy Friday to everyone.

That Tint guy is questionable. Here's the shake down on your juices.

Seriously. Kind words much appreciated, Rick. Checking out the site.
 

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ricky_simples

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Things are starting to look up. 11 of the clones began showing roots over the weekend so I got to transplanting today. They are in tiny square pots (about the size of a solo cup) but shorter and wider; they've worked well for me in the past.
I rinsed the coco with reservoir water prior to transplanting, and also dusted the roots with mycorrhizae powder. The next couple weeks should be telling. Hopefully things normalize and the troubles are in the past. Only time will tell.

The seedlings in the front coco are GG4 as are the very tiny seedlings above the drain. The bottom right corner is a Jeeves seedling from Cannarado and she's in there for shits and giggles and so I can gain experience with rockwool.

Res PPM sitting at 800 (1.6 EC), and PH at 6.0.

Per Gal:
Jacks Part A: 2.5 gram
Part B (Calnit): 2.5 grams
Epsom: 1 gram
Armor Si 1ML
Cannazyme 5ML
Fulvic: 1MG
OrcaL: .5ML

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ricky_simples

In Bloom
This morning I observed Mg deficiencies on the two GG4 seedlings up front. I've done everything by the book up until this point so there's no reason these plants should be having any problems. The coco was flushed ahead of time, the water EC / temp / PH/ environmental RH, Lux readings, everything has been done exactly as it should. Watering intervals gradually increasing from once every 2-3 days to 1x daily since the plants roots are starting to fill the container and they are beginning to drink more.

I use a backup Apera PH60 (its a really good pen) that reads the same as the Bluelab Guardian. My backup Bluelab EC pen ( not a cheap pen) reads within 30 PPM of what the Guardian reads. The tent is on a controller keeping the temperature between 80-83 with the RH between 65-75. I even went as far as purchasing a magnetic stirrer to use for mixing the various salts when filling up the reservoir. It's safe to say I've exhausted pretty much every variable, except the Jacks.

One thing to point out, the plant in rockwool is not showing Mg deficiencies and she is being fed from the same reservoir, just a bit less often.

So today on 12/26/2020 I've decided to discontinue using Jacks 321. I don't feel bad about it at all. I dilly daddled with this Jacks for the last two months, really attempting to give it a fair shake but it's just not working out. It is not worth wasting my time on any longer because I need to get some plants growing and I don't have time to fuck around any longer. Like I said before, I have went back and reviewed journals, read other peoples writings, researched the elemental breakdown of Jacks, checked my water, checked my equipment, and slowed myself down a bit to make sure I was not overlooking anything. In my honest opinion, I think I got a bad batch of 5-12-26.

Something in the composition of this powder is off and it's causing the plants to become deficient in Mg. My observations during these last two runs of seedlings are that the Mg deficiencies begin showing around the 2-3 week point, usually right after the plants finish growing their first set of single blade leaves and are working on growing their 3 blade leaves, or have just completed them. The roots are typically beginning to get a foothold in the medium at this point and are about a week or two away from transplanting. This is when I've observed interveinal chlorosis where the leaf vein stays green but the regions between them turn yellow.

Because of this I'm kicking the tires on Canna Coco A&B. The bottles I have are expired but the liquids inside seem fine, hopefully they still work as advertised. There is zero sediment on the bottom, no muck or yuck.

I mixed a 10 gallon batch in the reservoir. It consisted of:

10 Gallons of RO water
10ML - Armor Si (added first)
30ML - Calimagic (adden second)
87ML - Canna Coco Part A
87ML - Canna Coco Part B
50ML - Cannazyme
6ML - Orca

PPMs landed at 720 and the PH landed at 5.8. I squirted a little PH up to get it to 5.9.

After the reservoir settled to it's final numbers, I gave the two seedlings a healthy watering (flush) of this this new mix. They're sitting in an area of the tent that is receiving 8K-9K lux of lighting and a gentle passive breeze from a fan that slightly jiggles the stem.

Like I said, I'm not too bummed this time because I really gave it all I had. If I was a newer grower that didn't have all the gismos and gadgets that I have to keep my grow room dialed, then yeah, maybe it's user error. But I've been growing plants for 12 years, and while I admit I'm not perfect, I have been taking a methodical approach to problem solving this. I may not know all the technical shit other people know, but I know what is most important, and that is what makes a plant tick. That phrase was coined by Uncle Ben on RIU in 2008, back when I was doing more reading than talking. I trust my eye and my instinct, and my instinct tells me something is fucky with this bag of Jacks and the plants do not like it.

So lets see how this expired batch of Canna A&B goes.
 

ricky_simples

In Bloom
@Agent Trent Hauser Don't feel sad my brother, I look at this as turning the corner. I just did some searches and found multiple threads where people have used expired Canna A&B (even 5 years expired) with no issues. I've kept my 5L jugs stored in a cool dark place and my reservoir mixed up nice and clean with no smell. Canna A&B is what I used prior to Jacks 321 and I never had a bad run with it. The reason I switched was because the cost to run is much cheaper with salts.

I feel like I left nothing on the table so I have zero reservations about my decision. When I make up my mind I am decisive and don't half commit. I guess I'm a Canna A&B guy again now lol
 
10 Gallons of RO water
10ML - Armor Si (added first)
Greetings Ricky
Something I learned recently. PH near 8 can cause precip issues.
Check your PH after adding the Armor Si.

The full scoop.

I used to do the same, add my Si to RO first. But it was jacking my PH over 8.

Bummer the Jacks was not working for you.
 

jaguarlax

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Anyways I'm going to try and break out of my shell over here... I need to venture outside of the trailer park and see what my neighbors on Phenohunter have going on. I've been so consumed with trying to figure out these issues that I haven't really bothered at looking at other peoples grows because it would make me sad that my plants cant be like that lol.

Happy Friday to everyone.

I really like the sound of that. This thread rules man, thanks for your contributions thus far...they are always solid.
 

ricky_simples

In Bloom
Hey folks. My apologies for being inactive. I've been hyper focused on figuring out my garden and I think after 85 days of struggling, that I may have a solution in place.

On my last update from Dec 26th I switched nutrient lines to Canna A&B and that lasted about one week. I realized my heart wasn't set on using Canna. I was just too familiar with dry powders that I didn't want to go back to liquid nutrients. I was casually browsing www.customhydronutrients.com to get some information on fulvic acid when I stumbled across a 5-11-26 nutrient they re-package and sell. Very similar to Jacks 5-12-26, but slightly less P, and about 1/2 the sulfur content. The price tag was so cheap that I had to order a container.

Upon arrival I noticed the powder is very fine in comparison to the Jacks 5-12-26 I had been using. So I mixed up a batch using a magnetic stir bar and discovered this stuff solubilized quickly, clean, and did not leave sediment at the bottom. Half strength of 1.8 | 1.25 | .60 came out to EC 1.1 and PH landed at 5.5-5.6 consistently, so just a few drops of PH up was needed.

Around this time I also started watching some lessons from Bruce Bugbee on YouTube, a scientist and professor at Utah State University who oversees their cannabis program. One of the takeaways was he doesn't exceed an EC of 1.3. Albeit he grows in peat moss + vermiculite, a lot of the same principals apply in coco.

So I decided I would keep the EC of my vegging plants at 1.3 and young plants at 1.0. I would be cognizant of how much and how often I watered, and really observe how the plants reacted. About 2 weeks in and the plants began showing noticeable improvements in their color and posture. I was using the 5-11-26 in conjunction with 15-0-0 calnit and epsom salt, just like Jacks 321.

I then decided (out of left field) to order a 2lb bag of Jacks 5-12-26 from Amazon. I wanted to see for myself the differences between the 5-11-26 from customhydro, the old Jacks 5-12-26, and the newer bag of 5-12-26.

Upon arrival I was surprised. The powder in the new bag of Jacks 5-12-26 is completely different from the old. No big chunks, no deep red tint, no adulterations. Just a clean powder. I pulled out the magnetic stirrer and mixed up a batch, and to my surprise it solubilized completely. No chunks in the bottom. Same similar red tint to the water but everything dissolved.

I decided to run a few tests and mix a few batches up to see how the EC reads. This formula is a little weaker, and after looking at the bag it says to mix what would equal 4 grams per gallon instead of the old 3.6 grams per gallon.

Needless to say I decided to put the 5-11-26 from customhydro on hold and work with this new bag of Jacks 5-12-26. So far the results have been good. The plants are responding well. They still have some leaf discoloration from before, but everything is looking to be heading in the right direction. I did decide the to bump up the EC from 1.3 to 1.5 yesterday, as I felt they are looking a little light, but I wont be going any higher than 1.5 unless they really show me they need it.




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ricky_simples

In Bloom
One other thing I've been working on is trying to improve my method of starting seedlings. I've got a few packs of regular seeds from Big Worm sitting in the vault that I'm not particularly attached to, so if they get dealt my hand of death as I try to grow them I won't feel too bad about it. The strain photographed below is ASS x Blackberry Dojo.

I soaked all the seeds in a shot glass of RO water. After 24 hours they were transferred to a wet paper towel in a tupperware container for about 48 hours. (These seeds were slow)
Once they had little tails growing out I prepared some rockwool cubes for them.

I mixed a batch of Jacks 321 to an EC 1.0 and PH 5.9. I soaked the rockwool cubes for a few minutes and cut each rockwool cube in half, placed the seedling in, and put it in a propagation tray. I took the remaining nutrient solution that I soaked the cubes in and poured that in the bottom of the propagation tray (leaving about 1/4'' between the bottom of the rockwool cubes and the water).

After about six days, 14 of the 15 seedlings we ready to go into coco. I had a batch of coco on deck buffering and ran RO through it until the runoff was EC .6.

I took some reservoir water, diluted it down to EC 1.0 and poured that into the coco and let it soak for an hour. I pulled the smart pot full of coco out of the bucket, let it drain, and filled the tiny containers half way with coco. I add the rockwool cube/seedling to it, topped off, and put them under about 8000K lux of lighting. I should note I also added some azos and some powdered mycorrhizae to the coco mix.

It's been about three days and I'll probably go another 2-3 days before watering. The seedlings look good. I know below the coco surface that they're developing their root zone and getting their feet.

I really like this method of starting seeds (water in the propagation tray) because it's hands off and keeps me from messing with the seedlings too much. Eventually you just lift the insert the holds the rockwool cubes and see a bunch of roots dangling into the water, and you know it's time to transplant.

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Frimpong

🔥Freak Genetics🔥
One other thing I've been working on is trying to improve my method of starting seedlings. I've got a few packs of regular seeds from Big Worm sitting in the vault that I'm not particularly attached to, so if they get dealt my hand of death as I try to grow them I won't feel too bad about it. The strain photographed below is ASS x Blackberry Dojo.

I soaked all the seeds in a shot glass of RO water. After 24 hours they were transferred to a wet paper towel in a tupperware container for about 48 hours. (These seeds were slow)
Once they had little tails growing out I prepared some rockwool cubes for them.

I mixed a batch of Jacks 321 to an EC 1.0 and PH 5.9. I soaked the rockwool cubes for a few minutes and cut each rockwool cube in half, placed the seedling in, and put it in a propagation tray. I took the remaining nutrient solution that I soaked the cubes in and poured that in the bottom of the propagation tray (leaving about 1/4'' between the bottom of the rockwool cubes and the water).

After about six days, 14 of the 15 seedlings we ready to go into coco. I had a batch of coco on deck buffering and ran RO through it until the runoff was EC .6.

I took some reservoir water, diluted it down to EC 1.0 and poured that into the coco and let it soak for an hour. I pulled the smart pot full of coco out of the bucket, let it drain, and filled the tiny containers half way with coco. I add the rockwool cube/seedling to it, topped off, and put them under about 8000K lux of lighting. I should note I also added some azos and some powdered mycorrhizae to the coco mix.

It's been about three days and I'll probably go another 2-3 days before watering. The seedlings look good. I know below the coco surface that they're developing their root zone and getting their feet.

I really like this method of starting seeds (water in the propagation tray) because it's hands off and keeps me from messing with the seedlings too much. Eventually you just lift the insert the holds the rockwool cubes and see a bunch of roots dangling into the water, and you know it's time to transplant.

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Always trying to improve , u are doing it right and will always be better in the end . Hats off to ya Ricky ?
 

ricky_simples

In Bloom
Hey Ricky, haven't seen you around for a while, figured I'd bump your thread.

Hope you had a great New Year and that Bubbles found you and got you safely home.
Hey man! Thank you for the kind words. It means a lot to see you dropped in when I was absent to see how things are going.

Overall the new year has been solid. I just ordered a new bathtub and have a friend coming by this weekend to install it. Fingers crossed the installation goes smoothly, I think I ordered all the right stuff, but we'll see :rolleyes:. My lady and I are also planning on taking a vacation sometime before winter is over. We want to go somewhere hot, with a beach, on the ocean. The wildcard is how covid plays into the whole deal. I'd hate to go on vacation somewhere just to hang out in a hotel room because everything is locked down. I see a lot of people going down to Florida, so that's kind of where we are thinking. Since there's no rec weed there I'd probably end up bringing a vape pen or two. I hear people fly with them all the time so I need to read up on that a bit.
 
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