Seeds from hermie f autoflower

Weedkiller

In Bloom
If it's a femmed plant that hermied, I'd imagine a seed from it would either be femmed or hermie as well. Afaik, hermie plants can only produce hermie seeds but I could be wrong.

Did it self pollinate or get something else knocked up?
I had a few power outages so that played a role. It just hermed on the very bottom. Idk, seeds aren't cheap and the weed is good. She was pretty, i took another one the other day only this one seeded as far as i can tell. I had to pull another earlybin flower because it hermed. Again,i blame the 2 day power outages in 10 day's the culprit. 20220718_203554.jpg
 

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Psychobilly

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I run hermie beans so much I might as well have a Well in the basement talking about lotion, but in reality, I run them. They produce buds for us to smoke all the same. I do get Male plants from hermie beans so I do have to watch them all the dance. Last year a hermie Motor Breath seedling the Father in law ran and took clones from showed balls like a day or two after he switched them to 12/12.
 

Gentlemancorpse

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I run hermie beans so much I might as well have a Well in the basement talking about lotion, but in reality, I run them. They produce buds for us to smoke all the same. I do get Male plants from hermie beans so I do have to watch them all the dance. Last year a hermie Motor Breath seedling the Father in law ran and took clones from showed balls like a day or two after he switched them to 12/12.
You really shouldn't get males from beans made from a female that went intersex on you, at least not very often. I've heard of an occasional male from feminized seeds but were talking 1 in a thousand. When an intersex female pollenates another female it is only passing on female genetics to the progeny from both parents. That's what makes the sale of feminized seeds possible.

Are you sure some of your seeds weren't made by some stray male pollen at some point?
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
You really shouldn't get males from beans made from a female that went intersex on you, at least not very often. I've heard of an occasional male from feminized seeds but were talking 1 in a thousand. When an intersex female pollenates another female it is only passing on female genetics to the progeny from both parents. That's what makes the sale of feminized seeds possible.

Are you sure some of your seeds weren't made by some stray male pollen at some point?
Positive brother. The Motorbreath we have started when we got clones of it, and I had never grown it before and over watered the shit out of both, and the seeds I got from the buds of those are the ones I started the next season when the Male popped up in the tent. Like honestly this is my 4th time growing (one grow per season) and we always just had clones so they were female, and my seeds of Skywalker, Blue Cheese, Chem D, Motor Breath and the rest were all taken out of my bud as we ground it up to smoke. I

I've actually wondered about this before because of how feminized seeds are made and.... yeah I know bro, weird. Last season was my first time using mainly seedlings and out of 4 Blue Cheese seeds, we got 2 males and two females, which is what I ran last year and simply cloned the first one that I verified as female which ended up being that really skunky Cat piss smelling one lol. The GMO plants I have outside right now came from dispensary weed from last year, and there's still one that isn't sexed yet. I'm pretty sure it's female because of that droplet shape I'm seeing, and one Blue Cheese from last year's plants isn't sexed of mine either (the other showed pollen sacs while it was still in the tent) but if that happens with my hermie seeds that still aren't sexed I'm gonna document it and get pictures for my grow journal as I've been reading about this thinking maybe I'm not understanding something, and then getting confused when a Male does pop up.
 

Weedkiller

In Bloom
You really shouldn't get males from beans made from a female that went intersex on you, at least not very often. I've heard of an occasional male from feminized seeds but were talking 1 in a thousand. When an intersex female pollenates another female it is only passing on female genetics to the progeny from both parents. That's what makes the sale of feminized seeds possible.

Are you sure some of your seeds weren't made by some stray male pollen at some point?
Yes I'm sure
 

Gentlemancorpse

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Yes I'm sure
Yeah, I was responding to @Psychobilly actually because hes seeing males from his hermie seeds which really shouldn't be happening.

Which, by the way Billy, I almost wonder if they aren't males but are intersex plants themselves that are just showing both parts right up front so they appear male. I mean, I've seen literally thousands of female seeds grown by other people, probably grown close to a hundred myself and never seen a male plant from a feminized seed... seeing multiple in just 4 grows is statistically improbable to say the least! Very strange. I know you have kinda limited space but I would be very interested in seeing one of the plants that appears male grown out, or samples sent in for testing. This is an X-Files level mystery to me lol
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Yeah, I was responding to @Psychobilly actually because hes seeing males from his hermie seeds which really shouldn't be happening.

Which, by the way Billy, I almost wonder if they aren't males but are intersex plants themselves that are just showing both parts right up front so they appear male. I mean, I've seen literally thousands of female seeds grown by other people, probably grown close to a hundred myself and never seen a male plant from a feminized seed... seeing multiple in just 4 grows is statistically improbable to say the least! Very strange. I know you have kinda limited space but I would be very interested in seeing one of the plants that appears male grown out, or samples sent in for testing. This is an X-Files level mystery to me lol

Honestly when it first happened, I simply thought that was because "all seeds were seeds"... I mean I didn't know shit compared to now really, and even now I'm learning a lot, so I'm glad I'm passed the eating booger stage of seeds know how LOL, but yeah as I said, at first I simply thought that was part of the territory of growing from seed, and I literally knew nothing about how a fem seed was done, so at first I simply thought it was how it worked.

As I learned more, and discovered how fem seeds are made, and started learning more about hermie plants, I then got confused to say the least. I mean don't get me wrong; I can't really consider myself some master grower after 4 grows / years.... So I expect there may very well be a reason, as I know for sure there isn't any pollen from an actual male plant as we simply never had "regular seeds" and started off nothing but clones.

Maybe it's that Infinite Improbability Drive..... (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy anyone?) But yeah bro I've still got a few plants that are hermie seeds that aren't showing sex yet, so if they DO produce any of the little green acorns of doom, I plan on taking pictures and documenting it in my journal, as I too am pretty confused at this point.

I know I'm still fairly new in terms of experience but..... I don't go out there drunk and try to sex them either LOL. I take caution growing any seeds as I get worried a male will ruin the outdoor crop which is, literally what we smoke all year usually. When my Father in Law got his indoor tent going, I started up all the seeds.

We had seeds from pretty much every strain we grew and I sorted everything and put them in bags and labeled them as we were trimming the plants if they had seeds while trimming, and every strain gets labeled as we do it, and each seed we find from each strain, goes into a bag and gets labeled on the spot so there isn't any confusion. I have a massive sack of "No Idea OG" (That's where the ones we aren't sure what they are go) and I do put effort into keeping an eye on everything so I know when I started the Motor Breath, it came from clones, and when his tent was ready to go, I gave him the seedling, and he said it was female and started cloning it, and then, he flipped the seedling over to 12/12 and a day or two later it was little green acorns everywhere..... Now again, at the time I just thought "well, that one was male" kind of like how he Blue Cheese that year was 50/50 with 2 Males and 2 Females.

Honestly the more I started learning about hermie seeds, the more confused I've gotten because, like you said; That shouldn't REALLY be happening. That Motor Breath was the one that got the farthest along because it was indoor and 12/12 and it was all balls no hairs.... The clones he had taken from that plant, ALL ended up showing the same thing. Nothing else was flowering either it was earlier than when the females begin to bloom, and one by one we had to go out there and cut down 5 plants because they all got the balls.

Documenting it is exactly what I'm planning, though I do think you have a decent idea about also sending a sample in. I'd like to know WTF is going on too really. I'd say this is a head scratcher, but that's a bit of an under statement LOL. The 3 baby Blue Cheese seedlings I've got outside are all from the same plant so I'll see how those go too. Also the Father in Law grabbed what I think is Hawaiian Sunshine and started 5 seeds of that, so there are also those ones we can check and see if there's any balls eventually.
 

Gentlemancorpse

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Honestly when it first happened, I simply thought that was because "all seeds were seeds"... I mean I didn't know shit compared to now really, and even now I'm learning a lot, so I'm glad I'm passed the eating booger stage of seeds know how LOL, but yeah as I said, at first I simply thought that was part of the territory of growing from seed, and I literally knew nothing about how a fem seed was done, so at first I simply thought it was how it worked.

As I learned more, and discovered how fem seeds are made, and started learning more about hermie plants, I then got confused to say the least. I mean don't get me wrong; I can't really consider myself some master grower after 4 grows / years.... So I expect there may very well be a reason, as I know for sure there isn't any pollen from an actual male plant as we simply never had "regular seeds" and started off nothing but clones.

Maybe it's that Infinite Improbability Drive..... (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy anyone?) But yeah bro I've still got a few plants that are hermie seeds that aren't showing sex yet, so if they DO produce any of the little green acorns of doom, I plan on taking pictures and documenting it in my journal, as I too am pretty confused at this point.

I know I'm still fairly new in terms of experience but..... I don't go out there drunk and try to sex them either LOL. I take caution growing any seeds as I get worried a male will ruin the outdoor crop which is, literally what we smoke all year usually. When my Father in Law got his indoor tent going, I started up all the seeds.

We had seeds from pretty much every strain we grew and I sorted everything and put them in bags and labeled them as we were trimming the plants if they had seeds while trimming, and every strain gets labeled as we do it, and each seed we find from each strain, goes into a bag and gets labeled on the spot so there isn't any confusion. I have a massive sack of "No Idea OG" (That's where the ones we aren't sure what they are go) and I do put effort into keeping an eye on everything so I know when I started the Motor Breath, it came from clones, and when his tent was ready to go, I gave him the seedling, and he said it was female and started cloning it, and then, he flipped the seedling over to 12/12 and a day or two later it was little green acorns everywhere..... Now again, at the time I just thought "well, that one was male" kind of like how he Blue Cheese that year was 50/50 with 2 Males and 2 Females.

Honestly the more I started learning about hermie seeds, the more confused I've gotten because, like you said; That shouldn't REALLY be happening. That Motor Breath was the one that got the farthest along because it was indoor and 12/12 and it was all balls no hairs.... The clones he had taken from that plant, ALL ended up showing the same thing. Nothing else was flowering either it was earlier than when the females begin to bloom, and one by one we had to go out there and cut down 5 plants because they all got the balls.

Documenting it is exactly what I'm planning, though I do think you have a decent idea about also sending a sample in. I'd like to know WTF is going on too really. I'd say this is a head scratcher, but that's a bit of an under statement LOL. The 3 baby Blue Cheese seedlings I've got outside are all from the same plant so I'll see how those go too. Also the Father in Law grabbed what I think is Hawaiian Sunshine and started 5 seeds of that, so there are also those ones we can check and see if there's any balls eventually.
Well if your outdoors maybe you picked up some stray pollen from a neighbor? I've heard it can travel for miles under the right conditions, whether on wind or critters. That's my biggest fear growing outdoors....that one of my idiot neighbors will miss a male and it will knock up my plants lol
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Well if your outdoors maybe you picked up some stray pollen from a neighbor? I've heard it can travel for miles under the right conditions, whether on wind or critters. That's my biggest fear growing outdoors....that one of my idiot neighbors will miss a male and it will knock up my plants lol

You know I've thought about that too as I've heard it can go like 10 miles or something ? If that did happen though it must have been like a REALLY small amount, as there's not very many seeds in my plants; I had Hawaiian Sunshine in the greenhouse which not only would make pollen harder to get in there, but a plant that was 10 feet by 10 feet or more.... I got 5 Seeds total... And that one was started from a bag seed too. I may well have to do a send in test as you said.

Also, always appreciate a Hitchhiker's reference @Psychobilly .... I choose 42 for every contest for a reason

:) Brain the size of a planet..... Haha!
 

PlumberSoCal

? Guy Fire-y ?
Funny you should ask. I got one I've named Funky Runt, an auto reg female from an F2 cross of Magnum auto x Dragon's Flame reg. One hermed and produced about 30 seeds. I've grow them 3 x's and none have hermed all are female.

If those seeds are indeed from pollen from the mother plant they will all be female. Now whether they will herm or not is an entirely different question as usually there's another trigger or more that causes a plant to herm. Granted some plants will herm very easily for different reasons but once a plant herms some of its progeny will have a habit of doing so as well. I've never heard or seen all resulting seeds herm. I bet I could make those plants herm if I tried but so far out of 12 plants no seeds have been produced.

Just fyi, i grew them because of the taste of moma. Dirty dishrag and sweet. It was killer. I have a very large yard and can keep plants separate or I'd of never grown these out. Unfortunately the offspring are not has tasty as mom but that may be due to growing at different times/conditions, just mho.
 
Yeah, I was responding to @Psychobilly actually because hes seeing males from his hermie seeds which really shouldn't be happening.

Which, by the way Billy, I almost wonder if they aren't males but are intersex plants themselves that are just showing both parts right up front so they appear male. I mean, I've seen literally thousands of female seeds grown by other people, probably grown close to a hundred myself and never seen a male plant from a feminized seed... seeing multiple in just 4 grows is statistically improbable to say the least! Very strange. I know you have kinda limited space but I would be very interested in seeing one of the plants that appears male grown out, or samples sent in for testing. This is an X-Files level mystery to me lol
X-Files definitely a case for The X-Files ?
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
I've gone as far as wondering "OK I know I wasn't drunk....Was I just really high and thought some of them were balls?" but the shape.... I mean it's pretty hard to confuse a green acorn for a white hair and I'd prefer to think I'm not that stupid LOL. Like I said next one is getting documentation and possibly shipped off to see what actually happened.
 

PlumberSoCal

? Guy Fire-y ?
I've gone as far as wondering "OK I know I wasn't drunk....Was I just really high and thought some of them were balls?" but the shape.... I mean it's pretty hard to confuse a green acorn for a white hair and I'd prefer to think I'm not that stupid LOL. Like I said next one is getting documentation and possibly shipped off to see what actually happened.
Damn dude, I continue to have boys fool me, fuckers. Beautiful tops and then balls and pissed, unless I'm looking for seeds. Too many times to count, fuckers?
 
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