Suzie's Grow

[PlumberSoCal]

While I may be the one starting this journo Suzie will be along shortly and she's hungry to learn.

I got her started with a Magnum GDP and a purple Gherry, both 20 weeks old and can come down any time but we'd like to see the buds swell a bit more first and 2 Magnum Flames autos about 6 weeks old.

She's got enough Masterblend, magnesium sulfate and calcium nitrate to make up 64 gallons of mix which should last a couple months.

I'm going to reiterate much of our conversation today here and I'm sure shell have plenty more questions as we go.

Mixing Masterblend nutrients

For 1 gallon:
MB 2.4 grams
MS 1.2 grams
CN 2.4 grams
This makes full strength for adults plants

32 gallon concentrate
MB 76.8 grams
MS 34.4 grams
CN 76.8 grams
Each in their own 1 gallon container
1/2 cup of each added to 1 gallon of water makes full strength.

Always add the MB to water first then the MS then the CN or the chemical reaction will lock out nutrients to the plants.

Fertigation, which is watering with nutrient water, needs to be done 2-3 x's a day minimum. 4-5 x's is ideal but 2-3 will work well. You cannot over fertigate and never allow the coconut coir to dry out. When fertigating slowly put enough nutrient water into the pot that some, at least a little, runs out of the bottom.

Since I brought some still drying flower we briefly discussed drying/curing. Never jar/bag wet or moist flower. The rule of thumb is wait until a small branch will break and not bend before jarring and then burping the jars/bags daily. Honestly there's not a whole more to it and once you do it a few times you'll learn when it's dry enough to jar.

Boys and girls

Yeah, it's not like that? there's a wealth of info on the pages here. Look around, ask questions and keep reading. This is beyond the best hobby ever and many here want you to be successful!

Oh, and when you get here WELCOME to pHenoHunter?

 

[Frimpong]

Awesome!!

 

[Amos Otis]

who is suzie?

 

[PlumberSoCal]

A friend of mine who lives in the country with a beautiful view (and I don't mean the nudists across the way) and should be growing?

 

[PlumberSoCal]

who is suzie?

And by April she'll be ready to run testers for ya.

 

[PlumberSoCal]

@Suziesgrow

This site takes some getting use to. I'm still learning it and I was on one for several years just like this one. Anyway usually when someone joins the site they usually post in the introductions page but you don't have to. Amos and Frimpong are both professional growers and sell seeds of the strains they produce but before they can sell them they send some out to folks who are willing to grow and document the grow to see how those seeds came out. Being in sunny so cal growing outside you'll be able to give a great assessment of how a particular strain will grow. Wildest growing dreams, eh?

You'll be amazed how much you'll learn within the week or two before you harvest one of those plants.?

 

[Amos Otis]

A friend of mine who lives in the country with a beautiful view (and I don't mean the nudists across the way) and should be growing?

Does she have a brother named Charles [the grinning boy] ? 'Cause that would be awesome.

 

[PlumberSoCal]

@Suziesgrow so, how the kids doing? Not causing much trouble I hope?

 

[BH]

welcome @Suziesgrow !

Love watching a good ol grow journal, thanks. must admit prolly one of my favorite things online!

 

[PlumberSoCal]

That Boy/Girl thing

Here's a pair of Bobby's Widow x Toof Decay

Those who have had several grows under their belts will notice that male on the left without even enlarging the photo.

But of course he's been developing since I first noticed and removed him.

Here's a close up of his lady

Very different and easy to tell. You're still a few months away from having to deal with this but the sooner you're exposed to this information the easier it will be when the time comes?

I just checked on the developing autos I have going and tried to get some close ups

Young female. Those white/opaque hairs or pistols coming out of the calyx is a sure sign of a female


Here's a couple shots that of plants that haven't shown their sex yet


I think both are female but I still fooled sometimes.

Also, I've been getting the coconut coir at the 99 Cent store by Smart n Final on Center City. The others may also have it but I haven't been to any of them in a couple months.

$1.99 for 6qts

Grabbing a couple bags next time you're in town wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[PlumberSoCal]

Coco coir is all gone. There's 2 stores on the otherside of town on Midway and one by Micky D's both on Valley.

 

[thesunnyvalekid]

That Boy/Girl thing

Here's a pair of Bobby's Widow x Toof Decay
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Those who have had several grows under their belts will notice that male on the left without even enlarging the photo.
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But of course he's been developing since I first noticed and removed him.

Here's a close up of his lady
View attachment 106071
Very different and easy to tell. You're still a few months away from having to deal with this but the sooner you're exposed to this information the easier it will be when the time comes?

I just checked on the developing autos I have going and tried to get some close ups
View attachment 106076
Young female. Those white/opaque hairs or pistols coming out of the calyx is a sure sign of a female
View attachment 106077

Here's a couple shots that of plants that haven't shown their sex yet
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View attachment 106075
I think both are female but I still fooled sometimes.

Also, I've been getting the coconut coir at the 99 Cent store by Smart n Final on Center City. The others may also have it but I haven't been to any of them in a couple months.

$1.99 for 6qts
View attachment 106073
Grabbing a couple bags next time you're in town wouldn't be a bad idea.

Dam, wish I could find coco that cheap.

 

[PlumberSoCal]

Dam, wish I could find coco that cheap.

About a third of the price of the next cheapest. They've had it off and on for the past 3 years. I've bought at least 100 bags since then. Bought 50 bags a few months ago and wish I'd have bought more?

I have a lot that's only been used once that I can re-use but it's so cheap I really haven't had to yet and I've been mixing some of the used in my potting soil and grow boxes. Great stuff and it is a waste product of the coconut industry. Crazy it works so well with hydro.

 

[thesunnyvalekid]

Ya, coco around my neck of the woods, is never that cheap, what a bargain. I been buying a lot through Amazon because it’s delivered but it can be on the expensive side.

 

[thesunnyvalekid]

Ya, coco around my neck of the woods, is never that cheap, what a bargain. I been buying a lot through Amazon because it’s delivered but it can be on the expensive side.

I do reuse mine after a good rinse.

 

[916DanFan]

About a third of the price of the next cheapest. They've had it off and on for the past 3 years. I've bought at least 100 bags since then. Bought 50 bags a few months ago and wish I'd have bought more?

I have a lot that's only been used once that I can re-use but it's so cheap I really haven't had to yet and I've been mixing some of the used in my potting soil and grow boxes. Great stuff and it is a waste product of the coconut industry. Crazy it works so well with hydro.

Hey Plumber my friend. How's the quality of that there coco? You having to mega rinse it from the start, or buffer with CalMag? I'm on my "first & last" Pro-Mix run because this is literally the messiest chyt I've ever messed with. I'm a huge fan of reusing media and have been tempted to try straight clay pebbles drip-to-waste because of their ease of reuse and lack of fines all over everything. How hard is it to prep your coco for reuse? Literally just rinse & go?

 

[PlumberSoCal]

Hey Plumber my friend. How's the quality of that there coco? You having to mega rinse it from the start, or buffer with CalMag? I'm on my "first & last" Pro-Mix run because this is literally the messiest chyt I've ever messed with. I'm a huge fan of reusing media and have been tempted to try straight clay pebbles drip-to-waste because of their ease of reuse and lack of fines all over everything. How hard is it to prep your coco for reuse? Literally just rinse & go?

I use to rinse it after soaking in a strong calcium mix but tried it once right out of the bag and worked okay. It does need to be conditioned. These days I fill several 3 gallon pots, place under a shelf and allow the run off from growing plants to charge the coco below.

 

[thesunnyvalekid]

I use to rinse it after soaking in a strong calcium mix but tried it once right out of the bag and worked okay. It does need to be conditioned. These days I fill several 3 gallon pots, place under a shelf and allow the run off from growing plants to charge the coco below.

Good idea Plumber, no waste everything gets used.
I do rinse all my coco out of the bag no matter where it comes from, then I charge it with Roots Organics cal mag, it has no nitrogen in it. I do this every time I plant a seed faithfully. Yes it seems extreme perhaps not needed, in my experience this prevents the one problem most growers have in coco the dreaded calcium deficiency in early to late flower.

 

[BH]

Good idea Plumber, no waste everything gets used.
I do rinse all my coco out of the bag no matter where it comes from, then I charge it with Roots Organics cal mag, it has no nitrogen in it. I do this every time I plant a seed faithfully. Yes it seems extreme perhaps not needed, in my experience this prevents the one problem most growers have in coco the dreaded calcium deficiency in early to late flower.

as a suggestion for non Nitrogen Cal/mag , im a huge roots organic supporter and love their products ( been using them over 10+ years)
however on their liquid lines, exp this cal/mag. too expensive !

tip if you want stick with roots organic, try their "elemental" ( all their dry line vs liquid) , u can add it to ur Rez or just top dress it weekly ( I do a little bit of both till 4th week of bloom-harvest stage where its only drenched/watered in), very soluble and also add fish as a great bonus. a 40lb last my fairly big garden whole round. def worth it in my books !

elemental — Aurora Innovations

www.aurorainnovations.com

a great and concentrated liquid version of No N cal/mag is Grow more Flower CAL/MAG ( been using it indoors for over 2 years ) you just need 2-5ml per gal, I got my 6 gal version of it for 95 bucks pre-ordered at hydro store. ( first tried the 1 gal for 35 bucks but man that's a big diff in price )
Just as a side suggestion cause this def could be pre-ordered at majority of hydro stores or online ( shipping is what gets ya)

Flowering Cal-Mag | mendocino

www.mendocinoproducerschoice.com

 

[thesunnyvalekid]

as a suggestion for non Nitrogen Cal/mag , im a huge roots organic supporter and love their products ( been using them over 10+ years)
however on their liquid lines, exp this cal/mag. too expensive !

tip if you want stick with roots organic, try their "elemental" ( all their dry line vs liquid) , u can add it to ur Rez or just top dress it weekly ( I do a little bit of both till 4th week of bloom-harvest stage where its only drenched/watered in), very soluble and also add fish as a great bonus. a 40lb last my fairly big garden whole round. def worth it in my books !

elemental — Aurora Innovations

www.aurorainnovations.com

a great and concentrated liquid version of No N cal/mag is Grow more Flower CAL/MAG ( been using it indoors for over 2 years ) you just need 2-5ml per gal, I got my 6 gal version of it for 95 bucks pre-ordered at hydro store. ( first tried the 1 gal for 35 bucks but man that's a big diff in price )
Just as a side suggestion cause this def could be pre-ordered at majority of hydro stores or online ( shipping is what gets ya)

Flowering Cal-Mag | mendocino

www.mendocinoproducerschoice.com

Nice info there there BH did not know that, I knew about their dry line, never tried. Yes, very expensive all their liquid Soul line is. I was a true fan of that line but tired of the many bottles and at times PH could become an issue, this time I’m trying limit any inputs other than the nutrient solution.
That is the reason I love this place the active contributions and ideas are fantastic.