THT's Random Trees 12/12 from Seed
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THT
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By all means, I don't mind a hijack either, this thread is free to go anywhere.
Those are the big sour tangie nugs I'm used to seeing, well done.
I can't wait to see how the other tangie crosses compare for you.
THT
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Cackleberry F3's, may only let these go another week, itching to get the next round started - and the seeds have fully matured
#2 has the most of what I am looking for - great yield and bud structure but not too tall, just right for 12/12 from seed. Smells are like a complex combination of coffee, leather, stardawg chem, pepper, and fresh linen with a strong overtone of maple syrup when dry. One of the few strains which the smells can change drastically from wet to dry in my experience.
A little sample from a #2 lower, she's not much to look at but the flavors and effects are top shelf.
#2 has the most of what I am looking for - great yield and bud structure but not too tall, just right for 12/12 from seed. Smells are like a complex combination of coffee, leather, stardawg chem, pepper, and fresh linen with a strong overtone of maple syrup when dry. One of the few strains which the smells can change drastically from wet to dry in my experience.
A little sample from a #2 lower, she's not much to look at but the flavors and effects are top shelf.
THT
In Bloom
5 band-aid haze girls. Just about ready to start flowering - a beast in 12/12 - some potentially piffy smells coming in, the journey for the perfect haze continues.
Getting marginally better with the camera, Cackleberry F3 #2 is almost fully harvested, best structure of the bunch - deep dark and dank stout aroma, ungodly couchlock sleep inducing stone. Not a day time smoker, yet i've been smoking it all day for a week and I still cant get enough.
Cackleberry F3 #1 will come down soon too, her samples have also proven her to be a winner, with more bright and citrusy smells included
Seeds have been collected from #2, and more will keep rolling in. There's enough to go around - PM me and you can have some too
Getting marginally better with the camera, Cackleberry F3 #2 is almost fully harvested, best structure of the bunch - deep dark and dank stout aroma, ungodly couchlock sleep inducing stone. Not a day time smoker, yet i've been smoking it all day for a week and I still cant get enough.
Cackleberry F3 #1 will come down soon too, her samples have also proven her to be a winner, with more bright and citrusy smells included
Seeds have been collected from #2, and more will keep rolling in. There's enough to go around - PM me and you can have some too
Senokai
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The Bandaid Haze is looking awesome. I have 5 females of Bandaid Haze going right now. Collected pollen from two different males. Once things move to flower I will post some pics. Really great to hear about the piff like smells...very encouraging! No smells coming through that I can detect on mine yet but its still early.
Jewels
Tilts at Tables
I have only known conventional veg and flip.
When I flip mature plant, first, bud sights will appear , then the plant will begin stretching.
Is that how it goes with 12 from seed ?
(I am wondering if) Plants show sex and just keep right on building?, or is there subtle differences in how they "stretch" ?
I think I would be down for 12's from seed.
My harvests are large enough that I dont need the pains or risks that come with perpetual.
I dont clone or keep mothers.
I dont want to run nursery in my basement.
Would be simple to just sow and harvest out in the shack.
Also I have never framed in veg space out there. So if I was to sow seed in the flower room, the infrastructure already exists,,, whereby: I could be super duper lazy. I like the sounds of that.
Your plants grow big T.
A guy couldn't really do a SOG with this method ?
That would be hard for me. I like packing them in there.
I dont do much weighing, however at the end of the day I still need jars full of weed, big, big jars.
Does a guy need lower plant density with 12's from seed ?
THT
In Bloom
The growth and stretch in 12/12 from seed is largely determined by the speed at which the plant transitions to flower. Something very sativa influenced can and will stretch right out of the tent from time to time. Most plants give a solid 2-3 weeks of what looks like normal vegetative growth before showing sex. from there, the flowering speed and stretch really make a difference in the resulting size, having done the standard methods of veg/flip, the only time I see 24 hours of light as better is for the really fast flowering strains which need some sort of veg period beyond the 2-3 weeks in order to produce decent sized plants.
Vigor plays a part too. Most feminized seed varieties I have grown show a lower vitality/vigor than regs, this normally results in a smaller plant with a lower yield. Squirt was one such variety.
SOG is still very possible as long as you have similar genetics with similar growth and stretch, otherwise you could end up with some plants not receiving much light. Id even say you can pack them in even closer as long as you plan to defoliate. I see it as a win/win, less complexity, great results, no observable difference in the bud, and usually just 3 months start to finish, flowering time may vary
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Crazy how fast some reg plants really can be.The growth and stretch in 12/12 from seed is largely determined by the speed at which the plant transitions to flower. Something very sativa influenced can and will stretch right out of the tent from time to time. Most plants give a solid 2-3 weeks of what looks like normal vegetative growth before showing sex. from there, the flowering speed and stretch really make a difference in the resulting size, having done the standard methods of veg/flip, the only time I see 24 hours of light as better is for the really fast flowering strains which need some sort of veg period beyond the 2-3 weeks in order to produce decent sized plants.
Vigor plays a part too. Most feminized seed varieties I have grown show a lower vitality/vigor than regs, this normally results in a smaller plant with a lower yield. Squirt was one such variety.
SOG is still very possible as long as you have similar genetics with similar growth and stretch, otherwise you could end up with some plants not receiving much light. Id even say you can pack them in even closer as long as you plan to defoliate. I see it as a win/win, less complexity, great results, no observable difference in the bud, and usually just 3 months start to finish, flowering time may vary
THT
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It can be a balancing act but only a handful of strains I've run underperformed in 12/12 from seed, and a similar number I'd say 'overperformed' given the height restrictions I work with. Most strains are somewhere in that sweet spot of 60-120 grams per plant for me. I used to LST but now I mostly let it do its thing -top if it goes too high - remove lowers below mid-plant.
Jewels
Tilts at Tables
I have almost talked my self into it. I dont know why this seems like such a leap for me, as I often regret over-vegged plants anyhow.
I veg with 24/7 light. My brain is conditioned to see plants jump up , when the lights go out.
I am able to see obvious advantages. With alternating light periods I can use the last heat of the summer to germ my crop , and that will allow me to start up a full month earlier. I absolutely could not pull any kind of wattage 24/7 during the heat of the summer, it would just be too hot.
I thought I would need to wait until September , however germ'n from 12s I could start in the first week of August.
I veg with 24/7 light. My brain is conditioned to see plants jump up , when the lights go out.
I am able to see obvious advantages. With alternating light periods I can use the last heat of the summer to germ my crop , and that will allow me to start up a full month earlier. I absolutely could not pull any kind of wattage 24/7 during the heat of the summer, it would just be too hot.
I thought I would need to wait until September , however germ'n from 12s I could start in the first week of August.
THT
In Bloom
I should add something here - there's not typically a lot of variance between plants of the same strain, but there is some. I would call it the plants 'natural' vegetative cycle, which is very long for most sativas 4+weeks, and much shorter for most indicas (as low as 2 weeks) (in my experience of course), Its during this time that the plants just veg, which really determines the final size. But of course then flowering starts - stretch still happens like with any veg/flip grow, its comparable. usually a (edit) 50% to 100% height increase, cola sizes don't really get effected negatively either. more on that below
And thank you, as do yours. I only wish I had that kind of space to work with. I will admit not all of the plants grow big, but yield has never been a problem because I usually pack them in. In a 2x4 I start with 8, hoping for 8 females. same for a 2x2. That density usually makes up for any lack of producers. When i was growing in soil I was consistently getting things that looked like this
Hickock haze in 3gallon growbag
Gunslinger in a 3gallon
Purple Mountain Majesty 3 gallon pot
This was with 600W of HID too, I now use 300w of led in the same space and DWC.
THT
In Bloom
Bandaid haze update
Short summary: What the Fuck. My 6 foot tent is tapped out vertically, I can not go higher on the light, and I all I can do it take the hedge trimmers to the top 2 to 3 inches of bud. Every. Single. Day. The growth is outrageous. The stretch is long and never ending. The only thing that can save this now is the piff quality bud, its too early to say if it will be.
Short summary: What the Fuck. My 6 foot tent is tapped out vertically, I can not go higher on the light, and I all I can do it take the hedge trimmers to the top 2 to 3 inches of bud. Every. Single. Day. The growth is outrageous. The stretch is long and never ending. The only thing that can save this now is the piff quality bud, its too early to say if it will be.
Holy hell man those gals stretched! This is why I've been scared to run any of my old Haze stuff or the landrace sativas indoor. Hope they deliver that A+ piff for ya
chiefer888
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