Trouble in flower

Capt. C

Saltwater Cowboy
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Basically this means they can get dryer than I thought.
I think @Buck5050 is on point here. @Buck5050 i am asking this because i just don't know in soil but what kind of a volume flush should he do for something close to a reset in a 10 gallon pot of soil. @Ggrow every time i have experimented with letting a pant dry out it would always go a day or so longer than what i thought it could :whistle:
 

Buck5050

Underground Chucker
Personally, I would at least double if not triple my normal volume of liquid if I was trying to clear the medium. Your going to over saturate the medium for this particular endeavor and because of that you'll want to have a dry back period. Being that you used plain water (pH appropriately)it should put you back to a good starting point.

For me, I would build back to full nutes over a week or two. Starting off with a 50% mix on the next watering. If the plant is perky and likes the light feeding move up slightly the next time. To me if any residual salts were left after the flushing these light feedings help balance the unknowns without stressing the plant during the process.

Of course all this advice only applies if the plant was happy to begin with and it's nutrient mix was keeping nice and green originally.
:passjbuds:

I'm sure there is other ways to push harder if you're looking for a high performance plant after a hiccup, but for me subtle actions will get the girls moving towards the finish line.
 

HughJass69

In Bloom
I wish i could help but i grow in coco and that is a different animal from soil. Hopefully one of the organic growers will chime in on this question. What i do no is the silica really helps with the plants ability to uptake all nutrients. You just have to have enough in the media for it to work.
What's up Capt. Run pretty similar to you. Do you counter the potassium silicate with something like phosphoric acid ? I usually just just foliar in early veg and give some here and there as it goes on. First add all nutes. Then the k2sio4 , the phosphoric acid to bring it back down.
 

HughJass69

In Bloom
Just saw this post.
Bags can be a pain to keep watered lol.
I just emptied my 6ft bag and 3 days after harvest there was only about a 2 gal wet ball in each section.
They dry out and they dry completeley very easily amd quickly.
My best friend is coco wet, i add 1/4 tsp to every gallon i add.
I water till my drain pan is half full and then let it soak back up. No drain off.
You should never let ball dry, bag is constantly pulling oxygen in as it does it's transpiration. If soil is airy roots should thrive.
Only way to really overwater a bag is to let it sit in water.
A more friendly version of the coco wet would be yucca powder. The coco wet has all kinds of edta and stuff in it.
 

HughJass69

In Bloom
If anything, it feels more like a lockout than a deficiency. I top dressed about 2 weeks ago and the mix has gypsum in it that was cooked for 2 months easily. They also received AACT right before flip.

My original plan was to alternate top dressing and AACT every two weeks. The time for AACT is almost here.

Again, not sure if I should be doing the tea or not?
I would do a basic worm casting tea. Some microbes and some enzymes. That powerhouse combo should help turn things around hopefully.
 

Capt. C

Saltwater Cowboy
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What's up Capt. Run pretty similar to you. Do you counter the potassium silicate with something like phosphoric acid ? I usually just just foliar in early veg and give some here and there as it goes on. First add all nutes. Then the k2sio4 , the phosphoric acid to bring it back down.
Almost all of my mixes require GH PH down and of coarse the more potassium silicate the more down. My filtered tap usually needs 0.5 ml per gallon of down to 6.0 to 6.3
 

HughJass69

In Bloom
Almost all of my mixes require GH PH down and of coarse the more potassium silicate the more down. My filtered tap usually needs 0.5 ml of down to 6.0 to 6.3
Yea my tap was crazy high ph even after a basic carbon filter.. Usually would have to use quite a but of ph down. Got ro water now. First time I mixed the nutes and checked ph I almost came. Right on the money ! Life will be so much easier now. The ladies should like the clean water too
 

Capt. C

Saltwater Cowboy
Staff member
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Yea my tap was crazy high ph even after a basic carbon filter.. Usually would have to use quite a but of ph down. Got ro water now. First time I mixed the nutes and checked ph I almost came. Right on the money ! Life will be so much easier now. The ladies should like the clean water too
The first place i grew i had to have a RO and it was nice except the filter changes and cost. My current local i am using municipal water that i just have to run a carbon and particulate and change those once a year. My ppm is around 90 so it is workable. Little less trouble i suppose :rolleyes:
 

Ggrow

In Bloom
I'm still thinking it's me! The overwatering. Also, might have to do with a broken PH meter too. I'm sticking to cheap yellow ones and changing them frequently.

Appreciate all the help. I'll be needing them when I start again. Not giving up!
 

Ggrow

In Bloom
Don't ever give up
Not many things I can promise you buddy, but you got my word on this one! Once I finish up some strains that I promised to run, it'd be an honor if I could run yours and have you guide me on how to just come close to your buds! I salivate each time looking at your grow. Better than picturing lemons LOL
 

Frimpong

🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Not many things I can promise you buddy, but you got my word on this one! Once I finish up some strains that I promised to run, it'd be an honor if I could run yours and have you guide me on how to just come close to your buds! I salivate each time looking at your grow. Better than picturing lemons LOL
Oh hell yeah dude. I will be here ??tysm for your kind words
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
even if it’s not the whole issue, salt build up is such a huuuuge problem and any build up for coco. seagreen is the holy grail and will fix this and once your medium and plant has these issues or nutes are consumed. good luck on the math and everything you do is just harm, you gotta have a positive all good preventive route !

i got a huge suggestion since build up was one of the things that got me over the years and I conquered it


Seagreen is hard to describe. The easiest way to describe it is would be to say it's a concentrated, compost tea extract. It's also so much more than that. We have created a living product that is shelf stable for at least 10 years. We still have original batches that have the same microbial concentration as it did when it was made. There are over a million different species of microbes in the bottle. There are also over 15 TRILLION microbes PER ML. Our microbial density is far superior to all other microbial products and even well brew teas.

Our product is designed to replace having to brew tea but it does also work with tea as well. You will want to make sure that you add seagreen right before you water. DO NOT ADD IT BEFORE YOU BREW. While seagreen is described as a tea, it is not created in the same way and if you try to add seagreen before brewing, you will reduce the number of species of microbes.

How do we make it? I'm sure that question was on your mind before I asked it. That is also a very complicated answer. Our chemist, who is also our CEO is a straight up genius. He took what are essentially common ingredients and formulated them into a product that no one else has been able to duplicate and many have tried. Most products that are fermented have issues with building up pressure in the bottles. That is one of the hurdles we managed to overcome, among others.

What's in the bottle? I'm sure that's another question that is on your mind. This is also a hard question to answer. We basically take fish and feed them to microbes. We then add some humic acid, molasses, kelp, and yucca into the bottle. All of these ingredients are really meant to help the microbes do their jobs. With that being said, if you are buying any of these ingredients as amendments, you will no longer have to buy them when using Seagreen.

What does Seagreen do? Here is the long list.
1. Reduces soil compaction by up to 70%
2. Breaks down salt
3. Breaks down organic matter
4. Solubilizes all insoluble nutrients
5. Keeps all synthetic fertilizers soluble until the plant absorbs it
6. Inoculates the root zone against bacterial and fungal infections
7. Creates topsoil
8. Topsoil acts as carbon sync so Seagreen reduces CO2 in the atmosphere
9. Breaks down carbohydrates from plants and poops fertilizer
10. Can reduce fertilizer usage by up to 75%
How much does it cost to use seagreen?
Seagreen costs between 9 and 20 cents a GALLON to use.

In a nutshell, Seagreen does what all the other microbials do, combined and much more.”


after using seagreen , game changer and I wouldn’t grow without it And I’m a cheap ass
 

Frimpong

🔥Freak Genetics🔥
even if it’s not the whole issue, salt build up is such a huuuuge problem and any build up for coco. seagreen is the holy grail and will fix this and once your medium and plant has these issues or nutes are consumed. good luck on the math and everything you do is just harm, you gotta have a positive all good preventive route !

i got a huge suggestion since build up was one of the things that got me over the years and I conquered it


Seagreen is hard to describe. The easiest way to describe it is would be to say it's a concentrated, compost tea extract. It's also so much more than that. We have created a living product that is shelf stable for at least 10 years. We still have original batches that have the same microbial concentration as it did when it was made. There are over a million different species of microbes in the bottle. There are also over 15 TRILLION microbes PER ML. Our microbial density is far superior to all other microbial products and even well brew teas.

Our product is designed to replace having to brew tea but it does also work with tea as well. You will want to make sure that you add seagreen right before you water. DO NOT ADD IT BEFORE YOU BREW. While seagreen is described as a tea, it is not created in the same way and if you try to add seagreen before brewing, you will reduce the number of species of microbes.

How do we make it? I'm sure that question was on your mind before I asked it. That is also a very complicated answer. Our chemist, who is also our CEO is a straight up genius. He took what are essentially common ingredients and formulated them into a product that no one else has been able to duplicate and many have tried. Most products that are fermented have issues with building up pressure in the bottles. That is one of the hurdles we managed to overcome, among others.

What's in the bottle? I'm sure that's another question that is on your mind. This is also a hard question to answer. We basically take fish and feed them to microbes. We then add some humic acid, molasses, kelp, and yucca into the bottle. All of these ingredients are really meant to help the microbes do their jobs. With that being said, if you are buying any of these ingredients as amendments, you will no longer have to buy them when using Seagreen.

What does Seagreen do? Here is the long list.
1. Reduces soil compaction by up to 70%
2. Breaks down salt
3. Breaks down organic matter
4. Solubilizes all insoluble nutrients
5. Keeps all synthetic fertilizers soluble until the plant absorbs it
6. Inoculates the root zone against bacterial and fungal infections
7. Creates topsoil
8. Topsoil acts as carbon sync so Seagreen reduces CO2 in the atmosphere
9. Breaks down carbohydrates from plants and poops fertilizer
10. Can reduce fertilizer usage by up to 75%
How much does it cost to use seagreen?
Seagreen costs between 9 and 20 cents a GALLON to use.

In a nutshell, Seagreen does what all the other microbials do, combined and much more.”


after using seagreen , game changer and I wouldn’t grow without it And I’m a cheap ass
Very cool ?
 
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