VAHomegrown
In Bloom
What is everyone running & and what options do you recommend? They will be going in a 4x3 & 3x3 tents.
UV strip lighting
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I use 12by12 led panels for side lighting - when using side lighting your vertical growth (height) can be shorten a bit - so no height issues - one does get more lateral bud site formation which can be good if one wants it stared out using full cycle light - Now considering blue panels for veg and red panels for flower - yields can be increased - Have considered - strips - depends on grow room size - lenght of strips . comes down to money that is available to spend (strips can be very expensive)
Caddis
Zinger
I’m trying out the HLG 30 UVA in a 3x3.
Setting the bar at the recommended 24” is currently not an issue, but something to consider. I’m guessing spread would be affected set lower.
Not sure if light burn is a concern?
I do like being able to run it 12/12 with a diy HLG Diablo 150 as opposed to cycling.
Without doing a side by side, may be hard to tell what the actual results will be?
Looking very flammable!
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Gweedo's Growroom
Yoda Fired Up
The way uv works its almost impossible to get uvb from leds uva is possible but its not really the part if the spectrum were after, the uvb is the stuff we're after, after doing all my digging I went with the cali lightworks uvb tubes at 24 watts per fixture, I got em up the last 10 days of this last grow and id definitely say there worth it, but as far as led the technology just isn't there yet yo make it feasible
Idlewilder
Underground Chucker
I was looking at the cali lw uvb fixture. Do you leave it on the entire light cycle or just the last hour or so? I was also checking out the Migro uvb light bar as well
VAHomegrown
In Bloom
I'm covered on my main light source, I am just looking to add separate UV strips that I cycle on and off independently.
VAHomegrown
In Bloom
Thank you all for the replies, I'm checking out the California Light works model now. Looks like just what I'm looking for.
Skunky Dunk Farms
Cannabinoid Receptor
"Beware"
Your gonna love your new light, and then you'll meet a new one and have to have it too. It will become a vicious cycle and you won't be able to recover from the addiction. I know, if been through interventions by my wife pn numerous occasions, useless.
"Beware"
Good thing is all "those" lights work really well combined for that supergrow you've been planning on forever lol.
Your gonna love your new light, and then you'll meet a new one and have to have it too. It will become a vicious cycle and you won't be able to recover from the addiction. I know, if been through interventions by my wife pn numerous occasions, useless.
"Beware"
Good thing is all "those" lights work really well combined for that supergrow you've been planning on forever lol.
Gweedo's Growroom
Yoda Fired Up
I started at 4 15 min cycles for 3 days, then 4 30 min cycles for 3 days then 4 at 45min for 3 days then finished at 4 1 hour sessions , after all the digging I've done I've firmly come to the conclusion all of us indoor guys can benefit from adding uvb as all the current lighting options available are severely lacking including the hid options, we've been competing with that legendary outdoor "flavor" with one hand tied behind our backs ??? makes sense if outdoor plants are reacting to it with resin production, and our indoor ladies are not, its just another stresser to shove our ladies in the stinky frosty direction were all chasing
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
i agree with GG, if you got your stuff down and also the genetics wants that/can take it. do it, but also know you got to be at that level ( he def knows his shit)
the more I see people online saying how amazing and the improvements when using uvb, have they really used them or compared vs not using it ? if this was soooooo useful it would def be used in commerical and more growers . Fact is yes you can get more thrich but you also need to realize it’s a balance of it working and u frying your plants. This is a natrual reaction and defense cause plant knows it can’t have sun screeen . the issue is like ppfd, so many pheno’s and ones people want to smoke, can’t handle these high nute, ppfd. Stress
thing with uva or uvb these are things if your enviroment is already set, ur genetics are on set . This is like adding nitro to your car ( majority don’t need or at that level)
every commerical room I have seen who thought uvb was gonnea be this game changer ethier barely uses it or has changed their mind cause so many strains just like high pppfd,a lot of strains Just don’t need or want it.
so Inless monocropping and have everything perfect, every led company when I asked “ is uva/b” useful? every single one said a very similar answer to what I said above. And I agree with them with them on this
now uva I did add to my rooms after I got my room perfected for most part, I started with 25%+ of room and compared same pheno’s , after seeing it did I’mprove my over all quality. I added more and whatcha know every 4x4 I added I did notice the over all extra dank/compaction vs not using . Thing is there’s a lot of timing for uva that’s a little misleading . from what hlg and people that are using their uva all seem to say use it right when u see the bud foam . Reason? = not only is uva life span before it loses efficiency way lower than a normal led but if using uva in veg your promoting stretch and many un wanted growing desires for cannabis.
point is Inless your monocropping and know ur genetics can handle uvb, why? I have seen enough vs positives to see it’s a huge gamble where uva and having a good enviroment can really make ur stuff shine. It’s like nutes, people are willing to buy these crazy npk numbers and “boosters” and use em at full feed and think more in = more bud
all these go into play , yes it may “improve” your yields but there’s so many factors that can cause a con to that. I would only suggest using uvb if you got your stuff and pheno’s selected to be able to handle higher uvb and stress.
people also say “ well look at outdoor, it’s just so much more trich ” = well yes it’s great factor the way plants react to the uv outdoors, but its also obvious when u compare same pheno indoors or not uv that many will fox tail, be more airy And un desired bag appeal. I just know my bud from A well controlled enviroment and proper ppfd is always better than when I do uv supplied outdoors and even the rooms I see from uvb supplied indoors who tried it, it didnt ”improve” for the upgrades and risk in my views ?
the more I see people online saying how amazing and the improvements when using uvb, have they really used them or compared vs not using it ? if this was soooooo useful it would def be used in commerical and more growers . Fact is yes you can get more thrich but you also need to realize it’s a balance of it working and u frying your plants. This is a natrual reaction and defense cause plant knows it can’t have sun screeen . the issue is like ppfd, so many pheno’s and ones people want to smoke, can’t handle these high nute, ppfd. Stress
thing with uva or uvb these are things if your enviroment is already set, ur genetics are on set . This is like adding nitro to your car ( majority don’t need or at that level)
every commerical room I have seen who thought uvb was gonnea be this game changer ethier barely uses it or has changed their mind cause so many strains just like high pppfd,a lot of strains Just don’t need or want it.
so Inless monocropping and have everything perfect, every led company when I asked “ is uva/b” useful? every single one said a very similar answer to what I said above. And I agree with them with them on this
now uva I did add to my rooms after I got my room perfected for most part, I started with 25%+ of room and compared same pheno’s , after seeing it did I’mprove my over all quality. I added more and whatcha know every 4x4 I added I did notice the over all extra dank/compaction vs not using . Thing is there’s a lot of timing for uva that’s a little misleading . from what hlg and people that are using their uva all seem to say use it right when u see the bud foam . Reason? = not only is uva life span before it loses efficiency way lower than a normal led but if using uva in veg your promoting stretch and many un wanted growing desires for cannabis.
point is Inless your monocropping and know ur genetics can handle uvb, why? I have seen enough vs positives to see it’s a huge gamble where uva and having a good enviroment can really make ur stuff shine. It’s like nutes, people are willing to buy these crazy npk numbers and “boosters” and use em at full feed and think more in = more bud
all these go into play , yes it may “improve” your yields but there’s so many factors that can cause a con to that. I would only suggest using uvb if you got your stuff and pheno’s selected to be able to handle higher uvb and stress.
people also say “ well look at outdoor, it’s just so much more trich ” = well yes it’s great factor the way plants react to the uv outdoors, but its also obvious when u compare same pheno indoors or not uv that many will fox tail, be more airy And un desired bag appeal. I just know my bud from A well controlled enviroment and proper ppfd is always better than when I do uv supplied outdoors and even the rooms I see from uvb supplied indoors who tried it, it didnt ”improve” for the upgrades and risk in my views ?
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Gweedo's Growroom
Yoda Fired Up
Honestly BH is 100% correct on this you'll actually trade plant biomass for cannabinoid and terpene production, so definitely not for people that are yield only based, but for squeezing the extra drop of juice out of a home grow its definitely worth looking into, outdoor always wins in phenolic compounds aka flavanoids and anthocyanins and the only thing lacking is usually some form of uv agitation in the plants, and or a very good living soil, but even in cases where the outdoor was run on salts it still outperformed in those categories, this is what led me to trying it out has to be something to it
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Chip Green
In Bloom
VAHomegrown
In Bloom
Thank you all for the great info, you guys always provide expert help!
VAHomegrown
In Bloom
My proposped plan was to add a UV light & run some c99 clones I'm familiar with. The c99 is my "control" in new soil or under new lighting etc. & really the only cut I truly " know." I definetly don't want to be experimenting with the UV while running these guys fire testers & standout genetics 
I have the tech junkie + tinkerer plague, and like to tryout the newest and greatest gear even if it's to my own detriment at times. I grew outdoors & then moved indoors in the late 90s/ early 2000s then totally stopped for about 15 years. I got back into it in 19' & felt like I was an inmate who had just been released from a 20yr sentence. That period of time was like the Age of Enlightenment for cannabis & I missed out big time. Luckily I have great mentors now like you all, access to great genetics and don't have to order my gear with a money order out of the back of a magazine.
I have the tech junkie + tinkerer plague, and like to tryout the newest and greatest gear even if it's to my own detriment at times. I grew outdoors & then moved indoors in the late 90s/ early 2000s then totally stopped for about 15 years. I got back into it in 19' & felt like I was an inmate who had just been released from a 20yr sentence. That period of time was like the Age of Enlightenment for cannabis & I missed out big time. Luckily I have great mentors now like you all, access to great genetics and don't have to order my gear with a money order out of the back of a magazine.california Lighting has been around for some years (10 +) have heard nothing bad about those light - expensive
PNW Strainhunter
In Bloom
The UVB never is strong enough to produce anything over 18" away. Same struggle a dozen years ago with my Bearded Dragon. Found quality Raptor UVB bulbs from germany. Reptileuv.com
Gweedo's Growroom
Yoda Fired Up
@PNW Strainhunter Your thinking of the lizard lights i think the recommended hanging height for the cali lightworks fixtures im running is 36inches, and I can vouch they will give you sunburn in short order lol, got my wrists one night while defoliating during a cycle, the warning lights are on top and mine are hung at 7ft lol couldn't see em and the fans covered the click of my timer ? lesson learned, both the cali and migro lights are actually quite powerful for their wattage
Gweedo's Growroom
Yoda Fired Up
Shane is awesome, no BS just numbers, the same reason I like greengenes so much, they already have money and have no reason to lie lol
WillieP
In Bloom
I know the title of the thread is referencing UV strip lights, guessing the LED type.My proposped plan was to add a UV light & run some c99 clones I'm familiar with. The c99 is my "control" in new soil or under new lighting etc. & really the only cut I truly " know." I definetly don't want to be experimenting with the UV while running these guys fire testers & standout genetics
This is not that...
The fixture:
Amazon product
And the lamp:
AgroMax Pure UV T5 Bulb – AgroMax
www.growagromax.com
But it is what I chose to go with.
I felt for the cost and the amount of UV in the proper spectrum that it provided, that it was my best option.
I cannot confirm or deny that it was indeed the best option, as I have not put that light in service yet.
I just wanted too through that out there in case you were unaware of this type of tube.
Hope you find that you are looking for.
Cheers,
WillieP
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