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The BR has been basically kratkying and still would run short on water after 2 days. The HS is drinking/feeding at about half that rate. Did addins of mc 1 part, cal-nit, MOAB, pickle crisp and epsom.
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Moved the BR to a 6 gallon bucket then realized I gotta calibrate my pH meter before I go further.....break time.

Trimmed HS a bit - she still sturating with 5 hrs left in the day.
 
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chiefer888 said:
Did you finish a Honey Sundae yet? I had three last round I had a with a nice grape candy and copper pheno.
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Yup, she finished sweet and floral. She is the best of the knowns I am running ? something comes through in the skunky D, rebel og, gsc x longbottomfighter, mother's hashplant, vanilla star, gorilla
blues or citrus city

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Seed tent comming along, the boy got groomed and lst'd so his grubby f'n hands aren't groping boobies all day.
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He throws 7 blades early and so does no. 5
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The others all have 5 in the tent, they will get more eventually, just seems to take longer.
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No. 5 was also a leafy pheno the boy doesn't look like he will reduce that count which is ok with this one because the leafier ones are the better of the group even if trimming is a pita.
 

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DopeDaniel

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Seedling update.
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Transplant was successful and all are responding to the resivoir change well except that one. A rebel OG f2, should turn around in a few more days...
These will get flipped in about 4 weeks or as soon as pollen distribution and collection is done. If I can finagle a kitchen herbs tent in the spare bedroom I will probably move half in there and flip the other half sooner.
 
Jewels

Jewels

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SSGrower said:
Wondering if this would work on a continuous flow?
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Sure, although with the standpipe that high, is the hydroton essentailly, not unemployed?
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The miracle and magic of hydroton is its wicking ability.

Saturated Leca will provide the perfect ratio of air and water, up to 20 centimetres from the high water mark.

Sounds wacky- but I believe, the best growth from that bucket (under continuous watering) would involve a 'bottomless bucket'
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Consider also res capacity. With a bottom skim of water, I could run six stations with a 5 gallon res.
Full pails would run at least 3- 4 gallons per station.
4 stations
X 3 gallons + res = 15-19 gallon.
,,, water is cheap, nutes get pricey.

With those buckets full of water you will need to come up with a method to increase oxygenation . It would seem more productive to have a bucket full of oxygen ~with a little water
,,,rather than a bucket full of water ~with a little oxygen.

,,,, just flapping my lips , here.
 
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Jewels said:
Sure, although with the standpipe that high, is the hydroton essentailly, not unemployed?
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The miracle and magic of hydroton is its wicking ability.

Saturated Leca will provide the perfect ratio of air and water, up to 20 centimetres from the high water mark.

Sounds wacky- but I believe, the best growth from that bucket (under continuous watering) would involve a 'bottomless bucket'
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Consider also res capacity. With a bottom skim of water, I could run six stations with a 5 gallon res.
Full pails would run at least 3- 4 gallons per station.
4 stations
X 3 gallons + res = 15-19 gallon.
,,, water is cheap, nutes get pricey.

With those buckets full of water you will need to come up with a method to increase oxygenation . It would seem more productive to have a bucket full of oxygen ~with a little water
,,,rather than a bucket full of water ~with a little oxygen.

,,,, just flapping my lips , here.
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I recall reading o2 saturation can be maintained with a simple waterfall. That is what the stand pipe is.
There is however a venturi kit that came with these pumps. A bucket of 50% air and 50% water should be pretty good? Perhaps at that point the hydroton is unemployed and one would be better suited to support the plant by other means?

The advantage to larger volume of water is in chemestry, smaller volume = faster changes, larger volume = more stable.
 
Jewels

Jewels

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Most importantly, I appreciate the opportunity to discuss all kinds of ideas.

Surface area and replenishment.
The standpipe does provide a large surface area and dwell time, for
oxygenation.

All my best ideas I stole from aquariums. This drawing has an air pump coming in the side.
Air can be used as a water pump.
The water can drain down through a giant sponge for oxygenation. Roots will anchor in sponge mat. This could all happen buried in hydroton.
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I figure if a guy is going to run an air pump, it might as well earn its keep.
Harness the available forces.
 
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IPM day Spinosad, Vinerade and Grandevo rotation will resume in 14 days. Gonna start freezing water bottles in prep for doing a heat treatment before then.


Culled one Rebel OG that wasnt keeping pace. For the health of the garden
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Transplant didn't work out for it, musta damaged that taproot.
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Just convinced myself to try the venturi on Honey Sundae
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We'll see if I can get it installed after smoking a bowl tho.
 
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DopeDaniel

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Buck5050 said:
No real reason to waste time and energy on the weak ones
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I was just about to take full credit for it but looking back I spotted it on nov 15 as a problem child.


SSGrower said:
I think at laest one of each clone has rooted, they were transferred to veg a couple days ago. Had some issues ensuring balanced airflow, this method probably works better in a tray or tub for more than a few cuts in 2 or 3 containers.
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The two larger ones are #s 4 and 5 (the twins), 5 on the right has hold of the lead for best plant. She is more vigorous than her stable mates, thicker stalk, node spacing is a little longer perhaps. @Buck5050 I might actually be picking up some blueberry on it?? I f'd the dry and cure unfortunately tho.
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Seedlings are showing me things.

Yellow arrows are plants of interist/stronger form than their stable mates. Red arrows indicate potential problem children, the whole top row (Citrus City) seem extra hungry?

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Top to bottom -
Citrus City
Gorilla Blues
Vanilla Star
Rebel OG f2
Skunky D
GSC x Longbottom Fighter
Mother's Hashplant

Did some pruning on BR3 an experiment where I took whole nodes from the top (not the top but as close as I could get) then another 2 nodes down. Honey Sundae still looking saturated at 3-4 hours to go in the day.
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Nov 4.
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Nov 12
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Nov 15 (identified potential problem children, the citrus city came around)
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DopeDaniel

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Dusted some fluffy pollen @Buck5050
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A sac or 2 may have already opened
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Should start blowin in a few more days. Pretty sure that pollen was viable. I feel like the plants kick out some extra pheromones when getting sexed up. Different than what you would pick up with a stem rub or bud sqush. Will report back with confirmation when pistils recede.
 
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I did a leaf strip just before lights out, didn't have time to take a picture after, but will get one when the lights come back on this afternoon.
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As the moon approaches it's northern node and the waxing phase comes to an end the plant finishes exhaling and prepares for what is coming, flower. I like planting/flipping/harvesting when 2 of the 3 allign/coincide perigee doesn't fall 'til the middle of the month tho. Today will be a short cycle on the lights, pretty sure I'll be running noon to midnight, but might shift that an hour or two earlier for convenience factor.

All the seedlings are 5+ nodes, they weren't intended to yield, just a peek. Pretty sure I won't be chucking with them eithrr but ?‍♂️

Unfortunately, tje clones will have to go into flower for a couple weeks, then reveg when the seed making is done and the tent can be switched to veg and seeds finish under the cmh/led. Really looking forward to flowering with the cmh, veg has been impressive.
 
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SSGrower said:
The BR has been basically kratkying and still would run short on water after 2 days. The HS is drinking/feeding at about half that rate. Did addins of mc 1 part, cal-nit, MOAB, pickle crisp and epsom.
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Moved the BR to a 6 gallon bucket then realized I gotta calibrate my pH meter before I go further.....break time.

Trimmed HS a bit - she still sturating with 5 hrs left in the day.
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@spyralout peep that COB setup...
 
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