WTF is this Monstrosity?!?

MacGydro

MacGydro

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It might be a rough year for bugs, folks.

I've had some plants vegging au naturale in the yard for about a week, some just a day or 2.
So far, I've plucked a caterpillar off a plant outside for a day (And fed it to the chickens, which was quite satisfying!)
and then there's THESE little hellions, which I've never seen until the last couple days.
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They're like Super Mecha-Aphids or something, complete with war paint! ...give me the regular green "Cannabis Aphids" any day!
I'm pretty sure I saw a regular green one inside, driving one of these monster mech suits when I mashed it into oblivion...

I don't actually know if they're Aphids, because I couldn't find any comparable pics, and don't see the "tailpipes", but they've got the general shape, seem to feed hard on plants, and are sticky like their honeydew, when squished.

They're about 4 times the size of the green Aphids, and scurry along real quick.
I was hoping they were beneficial predators, until I saw the leaf damage, and started killing them.
These fuckers don't mess around like other aphids...they seem to punch holes and gnarl leaves with a quickness!
I haven't seen them fly, but I'm pretty sure they were hiding wings on the ones I squashed.

Sprayed everything vegging with Plant Therapy, which seemed to kill almost on contact, but saw live bugs again yesterday.
This could be a rough battle, as quick as these things seem to do damage, and while their numbers aren't like the greenies, their speed gets them around a plant quick.

I haven't actually watched one of these long enough to see it eat the leaves, so it's possible it could be a predator, eating whatever actually damaged the leaves, but I wasn't taking chances at the moment.
I saw (brand new to me) bugs, damage, and started killing...
I'll check them again today, and see if they're getting worse.

Anyone ever seen these things before?

If you put your tinfoil hat on, and squint real hard, you could just about see some alphabet scientist whipping these things up in a lab over winter, for a spring release... *shudder*
 
Deebs

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Looks almost like a Tarnished Plant Bug

Some of the most formidable foes in the garden are plant omnivores because they are not reliant on just one host. The tarnished plant bug (TPB), Lygus lineolaris (Palisot de Beauvois), is one such pest that is a nuisance in gardens and can cause significant economic losses to commercial farmers and plant nurseries.

Plant bugs are a large, diverse order of insects that fall within either the families of Lygaeidae or Miridae. The Miridae family, which includes the tarnished plant bug, includes over 10,000 species with 2,000 found in North America. TPBs feed with their distinctive piercing-sucking mouthparts that insert into plant tissues and inject their toxic saliva. The toxic substance kills plant cells near the feeding site and causes browning and scarring of the plants.

Tarnished plant bugs prefer to feed on parts of plants that have high rates of cell division, such as on buds or flowers. Their damage can cause reduced vegetative growth, termination or deformation of young fruits and flowers, and overall stunted development of the plant.

The geographic distribution of the tarnished plant bug is astounding due to their ability to fly long distances and their flexibility of hosts. They have been found as far north as Alaska and Newfoundland and as far south as Central and South America.
 
Frimpong

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MacGydro said:
It might be a rough year for bugs, folks.

I've had some plants vegging au naturale in the yard for about a week, some just a day or 2.
So far, I've plucked a caterpillar off a plant outside for a day (And fed it to the chickens, which was quite satisfying!)
and then there's THESE little hellions, which I've never seen until the last couple days.
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They're like Super Mecha-Aphids or something, complete with war paint! ...give me the regular green "Cannabis Aphids" any day!
I'm pretty sure I saw a regular green one inside, driving one of these monster mech suits when I mashed it into oblivion...

I don't actually know if they're Aphids, because I couldn't find any comparable pics, and don't see the "tailpipes", but they've got the general shape, seem to feed hard on plants, and are sticky like their honeydew, when squished.

They're about 4 times the size of the green Aphids, and scurry along real quick.
I was hoping they were beneficial predators, until I saw the leaf damage, and started killing them.
These fuckers don't mess around like other aphids...they seem to punch holes and gnarl leaves with a quickness!
I haven't seen them fly, but I'm pretty sure they were hiding wings on the ones I squashed.

Sprayed everything vegging with Plant Therapy, which seemed to kill almost on contact, but saw live bugs again yesterday.
This could be a rough battle, as quick as these things seem to do damage, and while their numbers aren't like the greenies, their speed gets them around a plant quick.

I haven't actually watched one of these long enough to see it eat the leaves, so it's possible it could be a predator, eating whatever actually damaged the leaves, but I wasn't taking chances at the moment.
I saw (brand new to me) bugs, damage, and started killing...
I'll check them again today, and see if they're getting worse.

Anyone ever seen these things before?

If you put your tinfoil hat on, and squint real hard, you could just about see some alphabet scientist whipping these things up in a lab over winter, for a spring release... *shudder*
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Hopefully he is eating whatever is fucking w your plants . Hope it's nothing major tho ?
 
MacGydro

MacGydro

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No smell, but they're sticky when crushed. They do almost look like the stinkbugs with their markings though.

I just tried to get a closer pic of the bugs to see if they're eating plant or bugs, but this camera kinda sucks, and the breeze moving the plant doesn't help.
If I can get closer pics, I will though.
No scope here either. Haven't had one in a while, and really need to upgrade to one of those USB scopes.

Saw a couple more of these bugs when I went outside a minute ago. I also started looking a little closer, and saw some funky growth tips on some plants. These could just be really new tips, possible flower triggering, or reveg, damage from this bug, or maybe Broads / Russets as D9 suggested.
Shouldn't be, but since they're outside now, anything is possible.
I sprayed everything down, especially soaking undersides and growth tips.
Plant Therapy does indeed kill these bugs on contact, from what I can tell. Legs seized up curled and all heheh

Sonnuva bitch, there better not be Broads / Russets out there!!

Next seedling round is staying inside, just in case...
 
G

greyfader

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can you trap one in a jar and kill it with a little alcohol in the jar without getting it wet?

then dump it out on a piece of white paper and see if you can get a better pic with your phone.

is it hard or soft-bodied? do the wings give off powder?

also, i see a bunch of little white spots on one of the leaves. looks like leavings of some kind.
 
MacGydro

MacGydro

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delta9nxs said:
can you trap one in a jar and kill it with a little alcohol in the jar without getting it wet?

then dump it out on a piece of white paper and see if you can get a better pic with your phone.

is it hard or soft-bodied? do the wings give off powder?

also, i see a bunch of little white spots on one of the leaves. looks like leavings of some kind.
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Yeah, I can probably capture and gas one.

They seemed soft upon squish test, but that may be a relative comparison.

I only think I saw wings briefly, among the smashed remains, but they would be hidden under an outer shell, like a beetle.

The white spots could be from bugs, or dust. Not sure yet, but I see a few specks around.

I’ll see if I can get a better sample and pics.

Edit: caught 3, and put them in a container (~4oz) with a 70% iso sprayed cotton ball. They seem to be wobbly after a few minutes, but I’m not sure how long it’ll take to kill them... 1 has wings sticking out back from under the outer shell, but no moth dust, that I’ve seen.
 
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JL2G

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MacGydro said:
No smell, but they're sticky when crushed. They do almost look like the stinkbugs with their markings though.

I just tried to get a closer pic of the bugs to see if they're eating plant or bugs, but this camera kinda sucks, and the breeze moving the plant doesn't help.
If I can get closer pics, I will though.
No scope here either. Haven't had one in a while, and really need to upgrade to one of those USB scopes.

Saw a couple more of these bugs when I went outside a minute ago. I also started looking a little closer, and saw some funky growth tips on some plants. These could just be really new tips, possible flower triggering, or reveg, damage from this bug, or maybe Broads / Russets as D9 suggested.
Shouldn't be, but since they're outside now, anything is possible.
I sprayed everything down, especially soaking undersides and growth tips.
Plant Therapy does indeed kill these bugs on contact, from what I can tell. Legs seized up curled and all heheh

Sonnuva bitch, there better not be Broads / Russets out there!!

Next seedling round is staying inside, just in case...
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When I was outdoors I had the best luck treating pests when I started treating the entire yard and perimeter around the grow.
Just treating the plants new fuckers just moved back in. Used Final Stop from Dr Earth with the garden hose attachment to spray everything anywhere near the grow, and decimate every one of them basterds. Lol.
Totally safe as well to use around pets and people, just let it dry first. Smells like an Italian kitchen. Lol
 
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