Do you foliage spray ? if so what do you use ?

Hawkman

In Bloom
have been doing this from time to time - in the morining just before the light come on. Have used these porducts:
Cal Mag spray (Xtreme gardaring)
Nector of the God's spray
Optic Foliar
What do you-all use ?
 

Brokehoe

CHOOSE YOUR TITLE
Cal-carb (Xtreme gardening)
Seems to help
I use it when light go out
I really think it helps the clones
 
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BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
All non ipm are mixed together according always to days needed. Key is to rotate the ipm and keep the pests to never achieve population but also making pest/molds not want them there or its not their favor . Strong and healthy plants is the key for a lot of issues. all products listed have been tested many rounds and all have been contacted and questioned all I mix to make sure its compatible with each other as long as you use good water and follow their manuals/rate.

* Biological compost extract/nutes/biofungicide
Seagreen
(start-last week of bloom)
Trubloom (1st week of bloom-3rd week)
Terp gerp (3rd/4th week bloom every 3-14 days )
Xtreme gardening calcarb (start-last two weeks , every 14-21 days)
Bio-Cozyme (only first week of flower , once )
Regalia ( every 7-14 days , start-last week of bloom)


* Biological Ipm: can be combined with everything but "3rd choice" knockouts. follow my rotational steps and it will work perfectly.

1. Grandevo WDG

Every 3-14 days switch to
2. Venerate XC
^ both applied from start to last week , if no pest present past 6th week to save money stop spraying those but continue regalia and misc
3. root aphids/russets/broad = Drench mix for RA = PFR-97+ Grandevo WDG + botanigard 22wp , pre water your plants so you don't have to use as much to get run off on plants. have a solution for your pots to be able to retain the runoff aka pot-pan so what your basically doing is letting the plant retain and act like a "dunk". keep this solution in as a pond for 30 min-2hrs . advising a few people that have had RA. this was only thing that at least made it so you got them at bay and you can achieve your

^ Russets and broad, foliar apply at egg hatching rate and do same mix as RA. key is consistency and cleanliness

if having aphids issues outdoors, use knockouts and I also recommend botanigard 22wp as a good aid , exp after you can't use knockouts in flower. than rotate with venerate xc. best knockout before flower for aphids is evergreen 5.0, fucks em up

* IPM knockouts (use outdoors always and if pest present everywhere till 3/4th week of bloom)
All knockouts can be applied starting stage of plant-3rd/4th week of bloom and at that same time can be combined with everything listed above, just follow time frame suggested. all IPM knockouts Foliar product Switch 3-14 days just like rest.
1. Conserve sc
Both mixed with bio controls than switch every time with biocontrol or knockout and biocontrol and nutes besides greenclesaner .

2. Evergreen 5.0( 3x cheaper than pyganic 5.0 and same exact thing made by same company, I'm good on label for 3x)


3. if war is needed, ill apply a 3rd knockout ( like green cleaner or flying skull or Loast coast ) and these products do work, its just a diy version that is way cheaper and easy to make! why waste your cash when I can't diy or make most of these more complicated IPM and biologicals .
greencleaner if I want to use third choice rotational on 3-21 days. always Stop on 3/4 week of bloom, all knockouts should be stopped by then. (aLL "THIRD CHOICE" knockouts are suppose to be used alone vs combined )

I always spray plants min 3hrs before lights on . Otherwise you def can hurt them inless lights are dimmed . turn off all a/c , fans, Dehumdifer or anything that intakes for 30-1hr so you don't damage your units but also let the plants suck it all in too
 
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Skunky Dunk Farms

Cannabinoid Receptor
I've always stayed off that street myself.
Outside the only thing they get foiler is CO2 and rainwater.
Too much humidity in the room to begin with and foiler increases it.
But the process does work.
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
I've always stayed off that street myself.
Outside the only thing they get foiler is CO2 and rainwater.
Too much humidity in the room to begin with and foiler increases it.
But the process does work.
not to sound rude or argumentative but you can have RH of 100% , its the non good airflow and bad VPD protocols that make mold issues. you can grow in 100% RH and its the rain or fog or bad airflow that's its enemy . huge myth that everyone should not be applying according RH based on temps and not just lowering cause they think that stops mold. you lower your rh cause in last stage its the lower temps you are doing, thus on VPD its lower vs when room is hotter.

not ever have I ever had pm or bud rot indoors and I keep any room at 70% in room when room isn't in last two weeks and its the good airflow and no rain that makes it so you don't have those bad factors. pm and molds exist everywhere. its THE bad airflow and bad VPD stability that causes such to occur (bud-rot/molds)

another tip for foliar spraying indoors is turn off your fans, a/c and Dehumdifer so you keep that rh higher for at least 30min-1hr cause you don't want those devices to I take that but to let your plant absorb accordly. outdoors is to spray at sunset (30-1.5 hrs before so you can get it done before dark)

 
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Hawkman

In Bloom
All non ipm are mixed together according always to days needed. Key is to rotate the ipm and keep the pests to never achieve population but also making pest/molds not want them there or its not their favor . Strong and healthy plants is the key for a lot of issues. all products listed have been tested many rounds and all have been contacted and questioned all I mix to make sure its compatible with each other as long as you use good water and follow their manuals/rate.

seagreen (start-last week of bloom)
Trubloom (1st week of bloom-3rd week)
Terp gerp (3rd/4th week bloom every 3-14 days )
Xtreme gardening calcarb (start-last two weeks , every 14-21 days)
Bio-Cozyme (only first week of flower , once )
Regalia ( every 7-14 days , start-last week of bloom)
Ipm:
Grandevo
Every 3-14 days switch to
Venerate xc
^ both applied from start to last week , if no pest present past 6th week to save money stop spraying those but continue regalia and misc

knockouts (use outdoors and if pest present )
All knockouts can be applied starting stage of plant-3rd/4th week of bloom

Foliar product Switch 3-14 days
Conserve sc
Both mixed with bio controls

greencleaner if I want to use third choice rotational on 3-21 days. Stop on 3/4 week

I always spray plants min 3hrs before lights on . Otherwise you def can hurt them inless lights are dimmed .
Waht a mix - am familuar with a few of the one's you mentioned - Thanks for sharring you "secret" spray --- I have some babies that are just 1.5 weeks old for flower I stop foliage feeding at week 4 ------------ I use Terp-Gerp my dam spray got pluged up - any suggestion were of what I could use for the spray (looked on amazon, even contacted the company, maybe a WD-40 spray cap will worl but the spray would not be a "fine" ANY SUGGESTIONS ????@@@@@@@@@
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
Waht a mix - am familuar with a few of the one's you mentioned - Thanks for sharring you "secret" spray --- I have some babies that are just 1.5 weeks old for flower I stop foliage feeding at week 4 ------------ I use Terp-Gerp my dam spray got pluged up - any suggestion were of what I could use for the spray (looked on amazon, even contacted the company, maybe a WD-40 spray cap will worl but the spray would not be a "fine" ANY SUGGESTIONS ????@@@@@@@@@

if you contact and ask for non canned version ( sad they only try to sell can or 1 gal, and tats like 600 bucks)

when I asked for smaller bottle instead gallon version. they made it for by my choice off their seagreen/trubloom bottle sizes ( asked for 32 oz I think)

now I got multiple years worth and its very concentrated (1-5 ml's per gal)

contact info on bottom
 
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BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
DIY versions of good knockouts, con they cost too much if non DIY:
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Flying Skull Nuke Em Clone

Distilled/RO water (50 ml)
Insecticidal Soap (also called Potassium Soap) (40 ml)
Yeast (fresh brewery yeast or dry yeast) (4 g)
Lemon Juice (2 ml)
Potassium Sorbate (2 g)
Sodium Benzoate (2 g)

Top up to 4 oz with distilled/RO water

Use 4 oz./gallon and agitate before and during use

Homemade Green Cleaner

0.5 gallon of RO water,
7-8 ml sal suds,

12-13 ml canola oil
14-15 ml iso alcohol
Top up with RO water to 1 gallon.

Lost Coast Plant Therapy

Water, distilled water, deionized water2-12%
Sodium Citrate≤2.5%
Soybean oil25-50%
Isopropyl alcohol-35%
Ppotassium salts of Fatty Acids-35%
Peppermint oil-≤2.5%
Citric Acid-≤2.5%

Cornell Dormant Oil

-2 tablespoons of ultrafine canola oil and 1 tablespoon of baking soda mixed with a gallon of water.
-Nourishing formula- 2 tablespoons of horticultural oil, 1 tablespoon of baking soda, 1 tablespoon of kelp and 1 tablespoon of mild dish soap mixed with 1 gallon of water.
-Recipe 3 contains 2 tablespoons of baking soda, 5 tablespoons of hydrogen peroxide, 2 tablespoons of castile soap — which is made from an olive oil base — and 1 gallon of water.

Build A Soil Foliar

Foliar Recipe #1: Neem Oil + Agsil16H 7.8% + Aloe Vera + Essential Oils (Use During Lights Out Only)
This is the go to IPM foliar spray for weekly use, but variations of this recipe can be used and will be listed below without all of the detailed explanations. If you are worried about all the recipes, then just use this one and you’ll be fine.
1 Gallon Clean Water (You can also use Botanical Tea for the water) 1 Tablespoon Neem Oil (Use Ahimsa Neem @ BuildASoil.com) 1-2 Teaspoons 7.8% Potassium Silicate Solution ½ - 1 Ounce of Essential Oils (Use different combinations and different oils each week) 1/4 Cup Pure Aloe Vera Juice (If using 200x Aloe Powder from BuildASoil.com add 1/8 Teaspoon per gallon)

Oils for for IPM Use: Rosemary, Eucalyptus, Ginger, Lemongrass, Thyme, Clove, Cinnamon, Peppermint etc. Directions for mixing:

The key is to get the Neem Oil Properly emulsified so that it sprays evenly or else this spray won’t be nearly as effective. Use warm water but not hot. (75-85 degrees) I like to add 1 cup of the gallon of water into a Protein Shaker cup with the round wire whisk ball for mixing but you can use a whisk and a regular cup, a blender or whatever you have on hand.

To this 1 cup of water I add my Aloe Vera Juice or powder and let sit until clear.

Then emulsify 1 Tablespoon of Neem oil using 1-2 teaspoons of 7.8% Potassium Silicate solution into the shaker cup with the warm water and Aloe Juice.

Add the emulsified neem/silica/aloe solution to the other 15 cups of water to make your full gallon of spray.

Add the essential oils of your choice and stir vigorously to keep the oil emulsified.

Spray the plant down using a sprayer with a wand like a Chapin model 1949. This type of sprayer will allow you to effectively coat your entire plant from bottom to top. Use the wand and work your way from the bottom to the top spraying the underside of every leaf and once done turn the wand over and spray the top of every leaf, completely saturating the canopy until the plant is weeping and ready to fall over from the weight of the foliar spray.

Make Sure to spray this just before or just after lights off as the neem oil and the essential oils will burn your plants if sprayed with lights on. Essential oils are especially reactive to light so be sure to spray at lights out… and not just a couple hours before lights on.

Dr Bronners And Essential Oils

Dr. Bronners Style Soap + Essential Oils
1 Gallon Clean Water
1 Ounce of Dr. Bronners Plain Soap
.5 – 1 Ounce of Essential Oils (Use half this amount if using a scented soap like peppermint or lavender)

The original recipe for Mammoth Biocontrol was:

5% Thyme Oil
90% Light corn oil
5% Liquid Lecithins (sunflower)
Shake well and use sticker/spreader like a non-ionic surfactant. Use at 3 oz. (90 ml)/gallon final dilution.

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Soybean oil 39.0% Sodium lauryl sulfate 19.0% Isopropyl alcohol 20.0% Water 18.5% Sodium citrate 3.0% citric acid 0.5%

4 ounces of concentrate would be 118.3 mL

canola oil is 0.92 grams per mL so that weighs 46.14g
water is 1 gram per mL so that is 21.89g
iso alcohol is 0.785 grams per mL 18.57 grams

which leaves us with 86.6 grams total weight of the liquid ingredients. the rest of it is in powder form and i'm not sure how to convert that so i used a conversion calculator.

sodium lauryl sulfate is 1.01 grams per cubic centimeter so a calculator says that converts to 22.64 g
sodium citrate is 1.7 grams per cubic centimeter so the calculator says 6.02 grams
citric acid is 1.66 grams per cubic centimeter so the calculator says that 0.5% would be 0.98 grams

so the total weight of 4 ounces of concentrate should weigh 116.24 grams
canola oil 46 grams
RO water 22 grams
isopropyl alcohol 99% 18.6 grams
sodium lauryl sulfate 22.64 grams
sodium citrate 6 grams
citric acid 1 gram

so the amount of ingredients using the 1 ounce per gallon dosage rate for green cleaner, that would be:
12.5 mL canola oil
14.6 mL iso alc
0.25 g citric acid
1.5 g sodium citrate
5.66 g sodium lauryl sulfate

if you wanna use Sal Suds, the weight of 5 mL of Sal Suds is 5.2 grams so it should be 7-8 ml sal suds, 12-13 ml canola oil and 14-15 ml iso alcohol per gallon to be exactly like Green Cleaner when using the 1 ounce dosage rate.

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good info, more on here
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
Waht a mix - am familuar with a few of the one's you mentioned - Thanks for sharring you "secret" spray --- I have some babies that are just 1.5 weeks old for flower I stop foliage feeding at week 4 ------------ I use Terp-Gerp my dam spray got pluged up - any suggestion were of what I could use for the spray (looked on amazon, even contacted the company, maybe a WD-40 spray cap will worl but the spray would not be a "fine" ANY SUGGESTIONS ????@@@@@@@@@
also as a side note when you asked if you could use a diff thing like wd-40 to spray it so its most misty vs droplets. that's a key to succes in a lot of products when you look at manual and it says no matter what plant ( no droplets) , they mean they want mist like that kit. my solution after talking with many reps about this. use a paint sprayer/fogger. foggers in my views are hard to use unless outdoors and also inlkess you get into big cash suck. you can't expect a product to work fully if its not giving full coverage if your doing ipm if it isn't systemic protection.

using a paint sprayer and proper paint tip makes a "paint sprayer " vs droplets and can get broad all spray zones. I save 30%+ vs reg hand sprayers. worth every penny

the rep from flying skull def recommended a specific mist tip for the paint sprayer to be close to the ag versions that are way more costly.a small fee gets ya that and I love mine ( I even added a extra 50ft cord, since my version sucks the water from a bucket)

sprayer I use:
tip

handheld choice:

flying skull also has that on FAQ website from what rep told me. too bad most companies aren't telling people that suggestion cause that kind of stuff saves cash on products, gets 100% coverage so easily and no wonder so many fail on ipm if they try hand spraying.
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Hawkman

In Bloom
if you contact and ask for non canned version ( sad they only try to sell can or 1 gal, and tats like 600 bucks)

when I asked for smaller bottle instead gallon version. they made it for by my choice off their seagreen/trubloom bottle sizes ( asked for 32 oz I think)

now I got multiple years worth and its very concentrated (1-5 ml's per gal)

contact info on bottom
thanks for the information
 

Hawkman

In Bloom
DIY versions of good knockouts, con they cost too much if non DIY:
---
Flying Skull Nuke Em Clone

Distilled/RO water (50 ml)
Insecticidal Soap (also called Potassium Soap) (40 ml)
Yeast (fresh brewery yeast or dry yeast) (4 g)
Lemon Juice (2 ml)
Potassium Sorbate (2 g)
Sodium Benzoate (2 g)

Top up to 4 oz with distilled/RO water

Use 4 oz./gallon and agitate before and during use

Homemade Green Cleaner

0.5 gallon of RO water,
7-8 ml sal suds,

12-13 ml canola oil
14-15 ml iso alcohol
Top up with RO water to 1 gallon.

Lost Coast Plant Therapy

Water, distilled water, deionized water2-12%
Sodium Citrate≤2.5%
Soybean oil25-50%
Isopropyl alcohol-35%
Ppotassium salts of Fatty Acids-35%
Peppermint oil-≤2.5%
Citric Acid-≤2.5%

Cornell Dormant Oil

-2 tablespoons of ultrafine canola oil and 1 tablespoon of baking soda mixed with a gallon of water.
-Nourishing formula- 2 tablespoons of horticultural oil, 1 tablespoon of baking soda, 1 tablespoon of kelp and 1 tablespoon of mild dish soap mixed with 1 gallon of water.
-Recipe 3 contains 2 tablespoons of baking soda, 5 tablespoons of hydrogen peroxide, 2 tablespoons of castile soap — which is made from an olive oil base — and 1 gallon of water.

Build A Soil Foliar

Foliar Recipe #1: Neem Oil + Agsil16H 7.8% + Aloe Vera + Essential Oils (Use During Lights Out Only)
This is the go to IPM foliar spray for weekly use, but variations of this recipe can be used and will be listed below without all of the detailed explanations. If you are worried about all the recipes, then just use this one and you’ll be fine.
1 Gallon Clean Water (You can also use Botanical Tea for the water) 1 Tablespoon Neem Oil (Use Ahimsa Neem @ BuildASoil.com) 1-2 Teaspoons 7.8% Potassium Silicate Solution ½ - 1 Ounce of Essential Oils (Use different combinations and different oils each week) 1/4 Cup Pure Aloe Vera Juice (If using 200x Aloe Powder from BuildASoil.com add 1/8 Teaspoon per gallon)

Oils for for IPM Use: Rosemary, Eucalyptus, Ginger, Lemongrass, Thyme, Clove, Cinnamon, Peppermint etc. Directions for mixing:

The key is to get the Neem Oil Properly emulsified so that it sprays evenly or else this spray won’t be nearly as effective. Use warm water but not hot. (75-85 degrees) I like to add 1 cup of the gallon of water into a Protein Shaker cup with the round wire whisk ball for mixing but you can use a whisk and a regular cup, a blender or whatever you have on hand.

To this 1 cup of water I add my Aloe Vera Juice or powder and let sit until clear.

Then emulsify 1 Tablespoon of Neem oil using 1-2 teaspoons of 7.8% Potassium Silicate solution into the shaker cup with the warm water and Aloe Juice.

Add the emulsified neem/silica/aloe solution to the other 15 cups of water to make your full gallon of spray.

Add the essential oils of your choice and stir vigorously to keep the oil emulsified.

Spray the plant down using a sprayer with a wand like a Chapin model 1949. This type of sprayer will allow you to effectively coat your entire plant from bottom to top. Use the wand and work your way from the bottom to the top spraying the underside of every leaf and once done turn the wand over and spray the top of every leaf, completely saturating the canopy until the plant is weeping and ready to fall over from the weight of the foliar spray.

Make Sure to spray this just before or just after lights off as the neem oil and the essential oils will burn your plants if sprayed with lights on. Essential oils are especially reactive to light so be sure to spray at lights out… and not just a couple hours before lights on.

Dr Bronners And Essential Oils

Dr. Bronners Style Soap + Essential Oils
1 Gallon Clean Water
1 Ounce of Dr. Bronners Plain Soap
.5 – 1 Ounce of Essential Oils (Use half this amount if using a scented soap like peppermint or lavender)

The original recipe for Mammoth Biocontrol was:

5% Thyme Oil
90% Light corn oil
5% Liquid Lecithins (sunflower)
Shake well and use sticker/spreader like a non-ionic surfactant. Use at 3 oz. (90 ml)/gallon final dilution.

---

Soybean oil 39.0% Sodium lauryl sulfate 19.0% Isopropyl alcohol 20.0% Water 18.5% Sodium citrate 3.0% citric acid 0.5%

4 ounces of concentrate would be 118.3 mL

canola oil is 0.92 grams per mL so that weighs 46.14g
water is 1 gram per mL so that is 21.89g
iso alcohol is 0.785 grams per mL 18.57 grams

which leaves us with 86.6 grams total weight of the liquid ingredients. the rest of it is in powder form and i'm not sure how to convert that so i used a conversion calculator.

sodium lauryl sulfate is 1.01 grams per cubic centimeter so a calculator says that converts to 22.64 g
sodium citrate is 1.7 grams per cubic centimeter so the calculator says 6.02 grams
citric acid is 1.66 grams per cubic centimeter so the calculator says that 0.5% would be 0.98 grams

so the total weight of 4 ounces of concentrate should weigh 116.24 grams
canola oil 46 grams
RO water 22 grams
isopropyl alcohol 99% 18.6 grams
sodium lauryl sulfate 22.64 grams
sodium citrate 6 grams
citric acid 1 gram

so the amount of ingredients using the 1 ounce per gallon dosage rate for green cleaner, that would be:
12.5 mL canola oil
14.6 mL iso alc
0.25 g citric acid
1.5 g sodium citrate
5.66 g sodium lauryl sulfate

if you wanna use Sal Suds, the weight of 5 mL of Sal Suds is 5.2 grams so it should be 7-8 ml sal suds, 12-13 ml canola oil and 14-15 ml iso alcohol per gallon to be exactly like Green Cleaner when using the 1 ounce dosage rate.

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good info, more on here
Thanks -- will be looking into what you mentioned
 
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