Question F1 generation question

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Sammy Snakeskins

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Ok so here's the general summary on what's going on; I have a 2 Scoops clone and a few Blue Magoo(Hyper Cherry Pie) hybrid females. I pollinated both strains with Skunky VA pollen. Now, it is my understanding that this particular F1 generation of seeds will inherit something called "hybrid vigor". Question: Is it advisable to pollinate the F1s within themselves or to use the same Skunky VA pollen again for the next round(F2s). I could be off about the hybrid vigor part so please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Now, it is my understanding that this particular F1 generation of seeds will inherit something called "hybrid vigor".
Hybrid Vigor is a phenomenon that 'can' occur in F1 progeny when two separate parents of completely different genetic make ups are introduced. Two things to note; first, hybrid vigor isn't always guaranteed but rather a possibility. Second, hybrid vigor is only attributed to F1 progeny and will be lost once going beyond that onto F2, F3, etc.

Is it advisable to pollinate the F1s within themselves or to use the same Skunky VA pollen again for the next round(F2s).
There isn't a wrong or right way to proceed. Your decision will come down to your overall goal or goals of your breeding project. What are your goals? Why did you choose the parents? What are you hoping to improve by using your two selected parents? What characteristics from each parent are you trying to pass along to the progeny? Once you have your goals defined, and you test your F1 progeny, did you accomplish your goals? Was something missing?

If you find your F1 progeny accomplished what you set out to do, then you can use a male and a female from those F1's that best represent your overall goal and proceed to F2 to try and stabilize the inherited traits you're looking for that meet your goals. Then you'll want to test the F2's to ensure the male you selected from the F1 was the best representation of what you're looking for and passed along your desired traits.

If you find your F1 progeny was close to your goals, but something was still lacking and you were missing a desirable trait/traits from one of your parents that you intended to pass along, you can reintroduce the original parent that holds these characteristics in hopes to strengthen some of its dominance and pass along the traits you're looking for. You'll again want to test the progeny to ensure what you're looking for was a success.

Breeding or chucking pollen is incredibly fun and rewarding. Enjoy the journey and I wish you all of the success while you work toward your goals. Keep us posted how everything turns out. (y)
 
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Sammy Snakeskins

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Hybrid Vigor is a phenomenon that 'can' occur in F1 progeny when two separate parents of completely different genetic make ups are introduced. Two things to note; first, hybrid vigor isn't always guaranteed but rather a possibility. Second, hybrid vigor is only attributed to F1 progeny and will be lost once going beyond that onto F2, F3, etc.



There isn't a wrong or right way to proceed. Your decision will come down to your over goal or goals of your breeding project. What are your goals? Why did you choose the parents? What are you hoping to improve by using your two selected parents? What characteristics from each parent are you trying to pass along to the progeny? Once you have your goals defined, and you test your F1 progeny, did you accomplish your goals? Was something missing?

If you find your F1 progeny accomplished what you set out to do, then you can use a male and a female from those F1's that best represent your overall goal and proceed to F2 to try and stabilize the inherited traits you're looking for that meet your goals. Then you'll want to test the F2's to ensure the male you selected from the F1 was the best representation of what you're looking for and passed along your desired traits.

If you find your F1 progeny was close to your goals, but something was still lacking and you were missing a desirable trait/traits from one of your parents that you intended to pass along, you can reintroduce the original parent that holds these characteristics in hopes to strengthen some of its dominance and pass along the traits you're looking for. You'll again want to test the progeny to ensure what you're looking for was a success.

Breeding or chucking pollen is incredibly fun and rewarding. Enjoy the journey and I wish you all of the success while you work toward your goals. Keep us posted how everything turns out. (y)
Yes it has been alot of fun and only getting funner. Thank you for the thorough explanation that I very well understand. Out of the Blue Magoo x Skunky VA cross, I want the vigor and a certain scent from the Skunky VA while keeping the blueberry scent of the magoos. It's going to be called Blue Steel. I have no idea what I want from the 2 Scoops. Just big yielders I suppose.
 
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Yes it has been alot of fun and only getting funner. Thank you for the thorough explanation that I very well understand. Out of the Blue Magoo x Skunky VA cross, I want the vigor and a certain scent from the Skunky VA while keeping the blueberry scent of the magoos. It's going to be called Blue Steel. I have no idea what I want from the 2 Scoops. Just big yielders I suppose.
That berry almost grape smell and taste should pair well with the blueberry. Maybe you'll get lucky with that one and it'll carry both through.
 
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jaguarlax

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Hybrid Vigor is a phenomenon that 'can' occur in F1 progeny when two separate parents of completely different genetic make ups are introduced. Two things to note; first, hybrid vigor isn't always guaranteed but rather a possibility. Second, hybrid vigor is only attributed to F1 progeny and will be lost once going beyond that onto F2, F3, etc.



There isn't a wrong or right way to proceed. Your decision will come down to your over goal or goals of your breeding project. What are your goals? Why did you choose the parents? What are you hoping to improve by using your two selected parents? What characteristics from each parent are you trying to pass along to the progeny? Once you have your goals defined, and you test your F1 progeny, did you accomplish your goals? Was something missing?

If you find your F1 progeny accomplished what you set out to do, then you can use a male and a female from those F1's that best represent your overall goal and proceed to F2 to try and stabilize the inherited traits you're looking for that meet your goals. Then you'll want to test the F2's to ensure the male you selected from the F1 was the best representation of what you're looking for and passed along your desired traits.

If you find your F1 progeny was close to your goals, but something was still lacking and you were missing a desirable trait/traits from one of your parents that you intended to pass along, you can reintroduce the original parent that holds these characteristics in hopes to strengthen some of its dominance and pass along the traits you're looking for. You'll again want to test the progeny to ensure what you're looking for was a success.

Breeding or chucking pollen is incredibly fun and rewarding. Enjoy the journey and I wish you all of the success while you work toward your goals. Keep us posted how everything turns out. (y)
I like when people say progeny because it reminds me of vampires...great stuff
 
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