Feast of Friends

[Keif Lint]

Keep it goin man this is awesome, you want it bad enough I think you'll find it or something very close?.

 

[Jewels]

Tanks Coach !

We still doin a limited Monarchy Unc.?
Social Credit has worked out here, in the past,,,
You wanna do some kinda Top-down Autocracy ? Is whatev's. I'm down.
Run that flag up. Gold medals or severed heads, we ALWAYS come home with something in the trunk.

Smashing thru the boundries, potency has found me, cannot stop the nattery!

I got my warriors lined up here @Keif Lint. Each I know by name, and all are dear to me. One by one , I will burn them all.
First or last, they all have something to show me.
Like this
After I grew out Futero , Guayita, and Grapefruit Diesel, I realized how enjoyable the juicyfrootPudChemy stank can be.
Mentioned once long ago, I wanted to wait for the right chassis to roll my way. Resisting ALL things Indiana related, I pledged allegiance to the Peepholes Republic of RomRod I really gotta quit hosing these down before photos.
rêdrûM attention slag , front and centre.
She is something.

Coffee Chung Peyote
I was gutwretched that I soured those Good Rev. beans. Hit pause on that. Repent. Take another crack, later. Consequence keeps me sharp.
Gonna hit the full spread again, once I shape up a Indica quarterback. @THT , F2 Sour Tangie, deep in the eggnog cups. y
This is about all I can hit, with reasonable force.

Time to seperate the mens, from the girlys
Boys girls freaks monsters sprites and runts
We take all kinds here

 

[Keif Lint]

Good to see the Revs brotha to another motha keeping pace. All looking. My leaves never get wet and i trim any low enough asap to make watering easy, my mate swears by foliar feeding, ipm and such. I might have to do a side by side to do more science

 

[Keif Lint]

Just a little pic o' Peyote Chung

 

[Jewels]

a little

Little?
Chunky Chungster !

Peyote got new pot and more central position.

Thumbnail fim

Natural reaction. I walk into the room, and look for the spray bottle.
It is so dry here, I can foliar feed the nursery 3x a day. No fan.
Honestly, with the hurricane fans in the flower room, I can foliar feed into the 4th or 5th week of flower. .

I gotta stop treating these like newborns. With all the spahgnum and cocco fluff in the pots, there is little sustenance, and they are tired of babyfood.
Kinda puckered and dry. I have been dribbling water down the outside of the pots, trying to draw roots.


I am hungry, man.

Uppot and flip. The show must go on.

Making room for my new babies.
I would love to hit 5's after singles. Only done that twice.

Six pack of Toasts'
Above ' Ripper's Gold'
Below ' Rippers Widow'

My new partners in crime

One more thing I am dying to show 'ya

Running into a plant count issue here.
Is it just me?, or is it all lil bit harder to harvest 6 plants, than popping six beans ?

 

[Keif Lint]

That's under led so you should get some huuuuggge dongs under the big lights?. Bloody dry hey, It's dry at my mates place below 20% , I've got a pretty stable humidity 30% - 55% except for the storms then it's puckered butthole and maximum airflow till it's over.
Looking good man ? give em plenty of food they'll take it no worries ?

 

[Keif Lint]

Easy, I don't count them?

 

[DopeDaniel]

Parts have arrived for the screen repair but for the moment I was distracted with another crack.

 

[Jewels]

Romystery




Buckeye

Uncs Red Central Army
Dry and overlit.

6pack Ripped Toast

Respect and JTR
FutreFrutero

This one is weighing heavily on me. 4th or 5th in line to the Kings throne. When I see a single JTR, or Respect Male, I will Harrod everylast dude on sight.
Still , I only popped 3 Sour Tangies, and I have this beautiful male.
THT Sour Tangie F2

Remember, I was all stoked at how this was actually branching?

I topped it, and it went nuts.

Dickhead.
I also popped a Crockett,,, it also looks male.
The only other Sour was the weakest of the three. I put it to flower three days ago.
Craps. Not much to clone there.
The Sour Tangie train makes no stops- I gotta get crack'n some of my of gear here.

 

[Jewels]

No such thing as 'little bit pregnant'

Blue Blooded Romulan Tangie

( Blood Orange x Sour Tangie)
x
( Romulan x Blueberry)

 

[DopeDaniel]

Yes but too pregnant is a thing lol. (pregnant = too pregnant) I like other peoples children just fine.

Twins can result from sexual reproduction and asexual processes. Sexually produced twins (identical twins) are zygotic embryos that result from sexual reproduction whereby two gametes (1/2 of the total genetic info sex cells: sperm/egg) undergo fertilization to create a wholly new genotype/individual and split. Embryos resulting from apomixis are produced asexually when a non-egg cell produces an embryo which encompasses a clone of the mother’s complete genotype.

A common case of zygotic twin embryos would be cleavage polyembryony (identical twins). This is when a fertilized egg cell which carries a new complete genotype splits (cleaves) into multiple fully complete embryos. Since the multiple embryos split from the same sexually produced embryo, they have the identical genotype and yield identical twins. The twins are identical to each other but are different from the parents since the parents still only contributed half of the new genetic material that comprise the offspring.

The other type of polyembryony is the result of apomixis. This method of reproduction does not involve meiosis or fertilization. This phenomenon is common in citrus plants (and mangos) and is the focus of the paper you linked. There are a few ways Apomixis can take place and they each have a different term depending on the cell and pathway of development, but the general concept of apomixis is that you have embryos produced by non-egg cells.

An embryo that results from meiosis and fertilization is said to be the result of sexual reproduction yielding a new individual (genotype), while embryos produced by apomixis does not result from sexual reproduction (no meiosis/fertilization) and yields a clone of the mother’s genotype.

The paper you linked was describing the citrus plant that express apomixis in some genotypes. The experiment was able to pinpoint the citrus plants with this genetic expression through lab techniques because the coding for this trait involves an easy to find location of just a single nucleotide substitution. The results showed that there was a link between polyembryony and the presence of msg-2, suggesting that this compound is integral to the expression of the apomixis trait.

For your specific case of twins, I would be curious to find out if the twins are sexually derived or apomictic. I would try to separate the different seedlings and grow them out to see if they are identical twins to their siblings, or clones of the mother. The fact that apomixis results from asexual processes implies that any attempt to breed for it would necessitate the female which initially expresses this trait. If it can only spawn from a carrier female and only produce genetic copies, thus only females, then I wouldn’t expect it to be a trait that a male could influence.

There seems to be a correlation between higher levels of vitamin C and the incidence of twins, so you might be able to tinker with this concept and see if anything comes from it.
Link between vitamin C and twin seedlings can increase seed production in crops.

Possible, but difficult to say for sure without comparing the twins to siblings and mother.


Yes. Just as a rooted cutting originally taken from the mother's tissue results in a clone, so too does the mother's cells generating an embryo result in a clone as there is never any deconstruction of her original DNA (meiosis) or introduction of outside genetic material (fertilization) in the development from apomixis.



One of the defining characteristics of apomictic polyembryony is that there is no fertilization (influx of genetic material to pollinate) in the production of additional asexual embryos. Here is an illustration of the normal sexual development of monoembryonic seeds vs. the development of polyembryonic seeds.

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In the top line, we have an embryo sac with 7 cells (3 antipodals, 1 central cell, 2 synergids, 1 egg cell in orange). The egg cell (orange) will be the recipient of the pollen and go on to form the usual single embryo embodying a mix of the mother/fathers' genes.

In the bottom line, everything proceeds as before with the exception of new embryos produced from the nucellus (maternal tissue encasing the embryo). You can see these 2 new embryos (nucellar embryos) developing in red. The result is 3 total embryos in the seed. One of these being the result of sexual reproduction and having a new genotype thanks to mixing of mother/father genes. The other two are copies of the mother's genotype (like new clones produced from cuttings) since they generated from her cells without undergoing meiosis (a deconstruction of mother's DNA) or fertilization (introduction of new genetic material).

Here is a good video describing types of apomixis:

Some in depth reading on the subject.

 

[DopeDaniel]

How much vitamin C does bunny get? A fair ammount I imagine.

 

[DopeDaniel]

Ahhh hahh hold down the a for Æthena.

 

[Keif Lint]

I'd love to see them seperated and grow up Danny DeVito and Arnie twins style ???

 

[Jewels]

How much vitamin C does bunny get?

Hhhhmm

Vitamin c and oxolates in rabbits

Studies on vitamin c excess being converted to oxolates, which may start kidney stones are largely based on humans, who, like guinea pigs, DO need vitamin c from their diet as they can not produce …

rabbitwelfare.co.uk

That says they produce VitC , and possibly pass it.

Timothy hay is not vit C rich.
That is 60% of her diet.
25% Pellets (enriched)

Pellet Food on Right. Turd left.
Comes out coarser.


She also eats a TON of luttuce. 2 litre a day, if I would share it.
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Romaine
1 – Protein. Believe it or not, romaine lettuce is 17% protein with 7.7 grams per head. It is also contains all 9 essential amino acids, 9% RDA of some and up to 26% RDA of others.

2 – Calcium. One head of romaine has 206 milligrams (mg) of calcium (about 21% RDA). Blend it with calcium rich fruits like papaya and oranges and you’ll get more calcium than a glass of milk!

3 – Omega-3s. One head of romaine lettuce contains 44% RDA of Omega-3 essential fats. Surprised? It’s not just nuts, seeds, and fish that have omega-3s!

4 – More Vitamin A Than An Carrot. One head of romaine contains 182% RDA of vitamin A (as beta-carotene) while a large carrot contains only 40%.

5 – Iron. One head of romaine contains 6 milligrams of iron, which ads a significant source of iron to the diets of vegetarians and vegans.

6 – Romaine Lettuce is Rich in B-vitamins: Thiamine (B1) – 38% RDA, Riboflavin (B2) – 32% RDA, Niacin (B3) – 12% RDA, Pantothenic Acid (B5) – 18%, Pyridoxine (B6) – 36 %, Folate (B9) – 213%!

7 – Water. One head of romaine provides 16% of your daily water needs with about 20 ounces of water per head!

8 – Rich Source of vitamin K. As with most leafy greens, romaine is super rich vitamin K with 535% RDA in one head.

9 – Low Levels of Oxalic Acid. If you have problems with calcium oxalate kidney stones, romaine lettuce might be a good choice for leafy greens since it is very low in this anti-nutrient.

10 – Mineral-Rich. Don’t let the lighter color of romaine lettuce fool you. This not-so-dark leafy green is rich in minerals. One head contains copper (33% RDA), magnesium (22% RDA), manganese (42% RDA), phosphorus (27% RDA), potassium (33%), selenium (5% RDA) and zinc (13% RDA).

Also Red Raddicho, snap peas, Endives and Swiss Chard.

Not spinach not carrot

Added some Moose , to sweeten the Pot.
Is good crap.

 

[Jewels]

Little food. Bit O poop.

E'rybody happy.
These 3x Romystery are wiiide open frames.
Raspberry canes. Even topped, she is cheap on branches,,, running pipe like hell.

Lanky like Lemon Larry.


UncZooka's are Steady Freddy. With the exception of the top left there. That one is dancing to a different drum.

Buckeye and Chung chill'n like phatazz bowls of spinach.


Babies too !
6 pack of Toasty Rippers
Gold and Widow


This is what my plants do in coco, on tap water. I have a hard time laying into the little guys.
More POOP !!
Reggae's "Respect"

Teachers Pet
Jack the Ripper

This would be a first for me.
Look Pa, I made it meself !
(Blood Orange x Sour Tangie) x Sour Tangie)

Blue Blooded Romulan Berry.
Came back haunted.
It begins.

 

[Keif Lint]

Can't wait to see what you get come flower time you got a good mix of stuff going on!?

 

[DopeDaniel]

Graft a few peyote chung to romystery and/or vice versa - cannabis stadium espalier.

 

[Keif Lint]

It certainly would be interesting, I hope to see more plants bump uglies in the garden of Jewels ?

 

[DopeDaniel]

Kinda like what this ripper offspring lower is doing on its own.

But the traditional espalier technique is more like what you did in socrats (sp?) is often incorporated with different fruits apple, pear, stone... staking them out for cropmanagment.