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notdezmond

In Bloom
Pretty sure those are aphids and sulpher doesn't work from what I know. My last round got destroyed by little bastards that look just like that.
Thanks, I appreciate your input. skipping the sulphur for now, I picked up some green cleaner and ima use that for knockdown 3-4 days then I’ll apply the swirskii mites because I’ve already paid for em lol.


Those don't look like mites at least the mites I've gotten before :). You need a scope to see mites, they are too small to see without magnification. Maybe aphids. Hit them with some insecticidal soap. Maybe even an alky mix.
Ok, I appreciate the input. I was thinking they were TOO small to be aphids hah. Either way the green cleaner will hopefully take care of it..


im still considering just shutting down spraying some aza n starting over after a deep clean
 

HBZ

❄️🔥💎 FORAGER of FIRE 💎🔥❄️
You can usually order like 1500 Ladybugs for about 10 dollars online; once they arrive, put them in the fridge until your lights are off, and then take them out, and put them on the soil, as they search "upwards" for food, so I put them right on the top layer of soil, and they head up and eat those as they find them. The water the plants get, is usually enough for them to drink, and if there's food and water, they breed and eat until the food source is gone.
Ladybugs may work on aphids I'm not sure but I know for fact they do absolutely nothing against mites..I put THOUSANDS of ladybugs in a 4x4 when I had mites last year, The ladybugs didnt even dent them or slow them down..Like not even a little bit..Wasn't untill i got and started using the venerate ,grandevo, regalia that numbers starting dropping...And it wasn't until i started spraying every three days without missing a day untill i really got a handle on them... After about a month and a half they was gone..Sadly Ladybugs are quite useless indoors..I wish it was that easy..
 

notdezmond

In Bloom
Green Clean has taken care of for me
Dr Zymes also , but didn’t work as good as green clean imo , very nice garden too btw
Thank you for the compliment!! I appreciate it man. I need it right about now. I got me green cleaner today I’m gonna apply tonight



Ladybugs may work on aphids I'm not sure but I know for fact they do absolutely nothing against mites..I put THOUSANDS of ladybugs in a 4x4 when I had mites last year, The ladybugs didnt even dent them or slow them down..Like not even a little bit..Wasn't untill i got and started using the venerate ,grandevo, regalia that numbers starting dropping...And it wasn't until i started spraying every three days without missing a day untill i really got a handle on them... After about a month and a half they was gone..Sadly Ladybugs are quite useless indoors..I wish it was that easy..
Like peat moss they are not quite sustainable at the rate we are going. I looked into em, Arbico doesn’t even sell em. Instead offers aphid lions(lacewing) among other things.

I need to get everything under control with knockdowns then switch to every three day ipm With grandevo botaniguard venerate regalia n suffoilx. I been applying at once a week ..
 
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HBZ

❄️🔥💎 FORAGER of FIRE 💎🔥❄️
Man I feel for ya..I can't even sleep when I have bugs of any sort starting to beat me..I've found persistent every three day IPM has beaten anything I've battled .Just got thru some aphids...beyond annoying..Still on the every three day attack tho..it takes me hours but they have to go...Pretty sure they are ... Haven't seen any in a week or so..Ide dump a 5 gallon bucket full of aphids in a tent before ide let loose three spider mites tho ...Those things are BASTARDS!
 

notdezmond

In Bloom
Haha fuck now I’m tripping. I think it’s hypoasis the more n more I look at it.

However this plant is what’s double tripping me out haha cuz it looks fucked up for sure.
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Now, I’m a chronic over/under waterer and I haven’t paid much attention to VPD this round.

Uggh who knows haha. Ima still apply the green cleaner
 

Bullfrog

In Bloom
Ladybugs may work on aphids I'm not sure but I know for fact they do absolutely nothing against mites..I put THOUSANDS of ladybugs in a 4x4 when I had mites last year, The ladybugs didnt even dent them or slow them down..Like not even a little bit..Wasn't untill i got and started using the venerate ,grandevo, regalia that numbers starting dropping...And it wasn't until i started spraying every three days without missing a day untill i really got a handle on them... After about a month and a half they was gone..Sadly Ladybugs are quite useless indoors..I wish it was that easy..
They do eat aphids, I had some aphids on one outdoor plant early last summer and noticed lady bugs on the plant. I was getting high in my patch, so I watched for a bit, and they were eating the aphids. Was worried I'd have to spray for them but I couldn't find a single aphid after a couple days, love the balance of the natural world. Lady bugs eventually moved on as well.

Mites are the worst pest cause it's damn near impossible to get rid of them without killing the plants that have them. Ok it's not impossible but as you state it takes persistence and determination. I'd say those are some of my strongest qualities and the mites test me. I was pretty confident about pest until I met the mites. They'll humble ya for sure.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
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Arbico doesn’t even sell em. Instead offers aphid lions(lacewing) among other things.
Because they are a responsible insectary.
Harvesting of ladybugs from the environment is incredibly invasive.

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I think they’ve eaten them selves out of fungus gnats and they have started to move around looking for food…
The color is what's throwing me off, send those pics to evergreen growers or arbico or another responsible beneficial insectary.


Right now I'm inclined to agree with @Rosinallday and @GthaEnigma and @Willie you could have multiple things going on. I'd be mindful of what you outdoor environment is doing at this point as well, regardless of if there are any cannabis plants out there or not.
What magnification are you using? Call me paranoid but that is what my leaves do when russets or broad mites hit. Less than 100x mag and they are almost impossible to see.
But they're also not paying attention to vpd, let's hope it's that.
 
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notdezmond

In Bloom
Regalia will be better used as a soil treatment at this point, It doesn't have efficacy for the pests were talking about anyway. I use it once or twice in veg/early flower as a soil drench.


x2, like hit hard, physical removal for aphids, as much velocity as the plants can take.
Thank you for the reply. I will send them an email/pic asap. I just blasted the hell out of The plants with green cleaner and will for the next three days.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
Thank you for the reply. I will send them an email/pic asap. I just blasted the hell out of The plants with green cleaner and will for the next three days.
LMFAO, Dude I made it back to the piil bug workout and just 'bout pee'd my pants. They do seem a bit out of balance population wise, I've not had much experience with them but earwigs are kinda my similar component.

Anyway, nice garden, quite a few moving parts. Definitely wouldn't want to think about going into flower like this though and sadly your best course might actually be a reset of the reset. Did you resolve what was chewing on the stalks?
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Ima grab some cptn jacks, green clean and some beneficial mites. Debating on using azadirachtin as well. I’ve never used any chemicals in here.. (haha there’s your sign)

I’ve just used grandevo, venerate, botaniguard and suffoil x for weekly ipm. As well as nematodes every veg cycle.

Admittedly, I’ve been busy and unfortunately the hobbies suffer first, I’m a family man..

actually want to just cut everything down and start over with fewer plant count. Fem only.. fml 5 stages of grief here hahah

Ladybugs may work on aphids I'm not sure but I know for fact they do absolutely nothing against mites..I put THOUSANDS of ladybugs in a 4x4 when I had mites last year, The ladybugs didnt even dent them or slow them down..Like not even a little bit..Wasn't untill i got and started using the venerate ,grandevo, regalia that numbers starting dropping...And it wasn't until i started spraying every three days without missing a day untill i really got a handle on them... After about a month and a half they was gone..Sadly Ladybugs are quite useless indoors..I wish it was that easy..
^ I'm gonna say ignore my Ladybugs idea, as everyone else has a lot more indoor experience than I do. I've used them a few years myself, but not in a tent. I've seen Spider Mites get taken out by them, but there's likely other predatory insects that showed up too, as I mostly flower outside.

Personally I'm grateful I haven't ever had Aphids or Mites in either tent of mine. Mind you, before every use, I go full Rammstein on my tent before using it each season.

Spray bottle of 90% alcohol, spray every inch down until wet, spray components and allow to dry, then hook up fan to move air around and leave for a few days to dry. New straight from the bag soil for every Seedling, as my outside soil likely would have bugs in it, and then only use said outside soil for filling pots for the outdoor plants.

Outside does have it's perks, as predators will always show up where there is prey, but a tent, is another type of monster. I'll go with my OCD being a plus this once lol.

By the way, if you do reuse soil from infested tents, just get a tea kettle. Put the soil in a bucket, and add the water in. You'll have to add microbes yourself after this, as it'll likely be dead too, but it'll cook whatever is in there usually so you don't restart infestations.

As you can see, multiple other people came in to aid you, so just be resilient like a mite, and you'll be pumping out fire in no time :)
 

notdezmond

In Bloom
LMFAO, Dude I made it back to the piil bug workout and just 'bout pee'd my pants. They do seem a bit out of balance population wise, I've not had much experience with them but earwigs are kinda my similar component.

Anyway, nice garden, quite a few moving parts. Definitely wouldn't want to think about going into flower like this though and sadly your best course might actually be a reset of the reset. Did you resolve what was chewing on the stalks?
HaHah thanks bro, yeah they’ve become almost uncontrollable lol. I’ll have to do an overnight up picture difference of my mulch layer. they move SOO much shit around it wild.

Also I had a mouse get into my bed and burrow a hole. I trapped his ass the next day and haven’t had the stem issue since lol.

Certainly debating on a full reset before I end up battling this for too long.

thanks again for the your help I appreciate it.


^ I'm gonna say ignore my Ladybugs idea, as everyone else has a lot more indoor experience than I do. I've used them a few years myself, but not in a tent. I've seen Spider Mites get taken out by them, but there's likely other predatory insects that showed up too, as I mostly flower outside.

Personally I'm grateful I haven't ever had Aphids or Mites in either tent of mine. Mind you, before every use, I go full Rammstein on my tent before using it each season.

Spray bottle of 90% alcohol, spray every inch down until wet, spray components and allow to dry, then hook up fan to move air around and leave for a few days to dry. New straight from the bag soil for every Seedling, as my outside soil likely would have bugs in it, and then only use said outside soil for filling pots for the outdoor plants.

Outside does have it's perks, as predators will always show up where there is prey, but a tent, is another type of monster. I'll go with my OCD being a plus this once lol.

By the way, if you do reuse soil from infested tents, just get a tea kettle. Put the soil in a bucket, and add the water in. You'll have to add microbes yourself after this, as it'll likely be dead too, but it'll cook whatever is in there usually so you don't restart infestations.

As you can see, multiple other people came in to aid you, so just be resilient like a mite, and you'll be pumping out fire in no time :)
I’m hoping if I can make a couple changes in my daily routines I can prevent anymore infestations and the need to use new soil. Clearly I need to spray ipm more lol

Thanks for the soil advice though that’s a good idea.

Also, hate to let ya down billy but your beloved baby queso may be thrown out with the bath water here. 😂
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
I’m hoping if I can make a couple changes in my daily routines I can prevent anymore infestations and the need to use new soil. Clearly I need to spray ipm more lol

Thanks for the soil advice though that’s a good idea.
Glad I can help bro :)
Also, hate to let ya down billy but your beloved baby queso may be thrown out with the bath water here. 😂
:eek: Oh no! Quick, move your whole life to another place so I can help!!! Haha.

I understand bro, and as you can see from the replies here, we ALL deal with these things, and sometimes, you just have to reset, learn, and go at it again until it's right :)
 

Willie

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Ya man to me it looks like text book mite damage. And as much I respect and appreciate both @Rosinallday and @Willie
I think they are too small and move too fast to be aphids. Again, I’m not an expert so please don’t take offense. I’ll get more pics right now
Is there a clear pic of a two spotted mite? If so, you are in for a long ass fight and ends up nothing ends up working. Ymmv. Are these are still in veg? It's one thing when they pop up 4 weeks from finish but it's sheer misery to finish. And they are not done until you clean out the tent.....and even then 11 days after the cleaning.
I've been trying to bring two cuts to heel mitewise for months. Dktr Doom, Azamax, sulfur......today the bitches are going outside......because I need to clear that tent. It's a bitch in veg.

And my plan is to let them go into flower( outside ) but to keep treating 2 branches and then take cuts........that's the only way I think I can keep them.
 
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