I can’t keep abusing cannabis

[AmatFumusViriditas]

And I suppose that’s not much help, sorry about that. I think curing is a skill like growing, personally I’m not good at it, never have been my whole grow career, I’m lazy and impatient. I let my son do this part of the grow, drying and curing is boring. He is no good at growing so it’s a good trade off, he prefers the whole plant method. He hangs it for 7 days, in a room no fan no nothing. Then separates the branches, cutting into smaller sections as he removes any big leaves around the buds. He continues to dry until it’s crispy, yes it feels crispy to the touch. Then he trims for the jarring burps everyday until dry. Then puts it away, he likes a month. I think it’s crazy if it burns we are fucking smoking it, ha
This is honest does some smell like hay, yes it does sometimes. It’s not a perfect science, but I still smoke it, it’s all mine.

Absolutely love the input. Yeah I’m familiar with hay. If I don’t grow, I don’t smoke, lol. No way am I any pro connoisseur, though I’ve smoked since late 80’s, cut my teeth on humboldt county, but changed locations and got used to Mexican brick weed. I’ve grown off an on since 2013, and my early failures were earned and appreciated. I agree failure is the key to learning and if not for the hint of success which turned failure, I would have continued to beat my head on the wall without crying to the forums, lol.

 

[AmatFumusViriditas]

If you can just get the dry down, you should try Grove bags. I am an avowed mason jar guy, and still use them mainly, but A few months ago I purchased some Grove bags for “archival” purposes and testing. I have to say that 3 months later I am very impressed. No burping or anything. Shit smells and tastes awesome. I may get some more.

With all my “learning experiences “ I am prone to be susceptible to potential products that autopilot or quick fix things, though I’d prefer to learn hands on, desperate times though......

 

[Gentlemancorpse]

How are the grove bags for you?...what about the boveda packs? I'm always stressing my drying and curing...i always have...I don't need that many edibles...lol...I always manage fine...it's just stressful at times.

I've found the bigger Grove bags work great, like the 2 oz + ones, bug the smaller bags seem to let the buds get a little too dry imo. Also they all seem to work best when at least half full. When they get low on bud, again, seems to dry out a bit too much. But overall I'm really happy with them. I've been using the big QP and HP ones for harvest then shifting it to jars when I want to smoke it.

 

[AmatFumusViriditas]

How are the grove bags for you?...what about the boveda packs? I'm always stressing my drying and curing...i always have...I don't need that many edibles...lol...I always manage fine...it's just stressful at times.

Agree with over abundance of edibles to use what should not be smoke ( the Voldemort of weed). I messed with novena some, think grove bags are worth checking out.

 

[AmatFumusViriditas]

I’d like to thank everyone for their input, it is much appreciated, I’ve food for thought and adjustments planned. Still several weeks out until I get to try again.
I don’t want to open a can of worms on a potentially controversial topic, but I’m thinking I could be cutting things too early as well. Tell me there is a difference between 10 weeks 12/12 vs 10 weeks “flowering “. I’m beginning to feel I’ve seen them incorrectly as the same thing?

 

[Gentlemancorpse]

I’d like to thank everyone for their input, it is much appreciated, I’ve food for thought and adjustments planned. Still several weeks out until I get to try again.
I don’t want to open a can of worms on a potentially controversial topic, but I’m thinking I could be cutting things too early as well. Tell me there is a difference between 10 weeks 12/12 vs 10 weeks “flowering “. I’m beginning to feel I’ve seen them incorrectly as the same thing?

Never harvest based on time alone. Breeders estimated flowering times are frequently inaccurat, they don't account for phenotypical variation or environment, and there's no real standardized point to start counting from. You should always harvest based off the trichs and overall appearance of the plant.

 

[Psychobilly]

I’d like to thank everyone for their input, it is much appreciated, I’ve food for thought and adjustments planned. Still several weeks out until I get to try again.
I don’t want to open a can of worms on a potentially controversial topic, but I’m thinking I could be cutting things too early as well. Tell me there is a difference between 10 weeks 12/12 vs 10 weeks “flowering “. I’m beginning to feel I’ve seen them incorrectly as the same thing?

12 on and 12 off triggers flowering, though I've read that the 12 hours of dark is the actual trigger and not the amount of light.

I may have misunderstood your question about pulling early, but without a doubt in my mind, the best most accurate method of knowing when to pull is by looking at the resin itself.

I use a jeweler's eye myself as they're pretty cheap and good enough to see color in the resin.

The "time" to pull can very much have an impact on the smell and taste since the resin is where the THC and Terpenes are, and if you pull it early you don't get the most you could.

If you look at ge resin and most of it is clear (looks like wet sugar or salt) it's too early.

If you see approximately 40 percent "Cloudy" (white coloration) in the little mushroom cap looking resin, you can pull it, but you're going to end up with what some would call a "Sativa Effect".

If you wait until most of the resin is cloudy, you'll have the highest THC content and a decent mix of effects.

If you wait until you see the white cloudy resin turning Amber colored, the amount of amber you see, will dictate essentially how much couch lock you can expect.

Some strains will have Purple resin, which I've personally only seen twice, as not every genetic allows that coloration, but you can treat Purple essentially like the Amber color.

The Amber color is the THC turning into CBN, which from what I've read, THC and CBN together cause a drowsy effect more so than THC alone.

If you really like a certain strain, you could pull some for day time, and then let the rest go until it's breaking down into CBN, and have that pull for "night time" or "Wife is PMSing" time.

 

[AmatFumusViriditas]

Strange how sometimes good advice just won’t make sense without a certain amount of experience. Don’t feel like I’m doing much different, but ever since I cried here, things have been turning out a little nicer. Something evidently finally got through, let’s see if it sticks. Thanks to all of you all that took the time to share info.

 

[Ramjet159]

I gotta be honest . When I first read the thread name I thought you meant you were smoking way too much ( yeah many will say arguably ?)
I was on a forum one day and this young punk was telling me I was literally being cruel to my plants by running them 24 hrs light .
Was one of those conversations you were just never going to win so whatever son . Just keep reading your grow bedtime stories and everything will be ok .
On the drying note I’m as old school as it gets . 2 weeks hanging in my garden shed give or take a few days , a quick squeeze sniff test and then bagged up and burped maybe once or twice for good measure .
That’s it ?

 

[18B]

I gotta be honest . When I first read the thread name I thought you meant you were smoking way too much ( yeah many will say arguably ?)
I was on a forum one day and this young punk was telling me I was literally being cruel to my plants by running them 24 hrs light .
Was one of those conversations you were just never going to win so whatever son . Just keep reading your grow bedtime stories and everything will be ok .
On the drying note I’m as old school as it gets . 2 weeks hanging in my garden shed give or take a few days , a quick squeeze sniff test and then bagged up and burped maybe once or twice for good measure .
That’s it ?

Yes, don't argue with idiots...they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience....Twain

 

[Psychobilly]

Speaking of nice cures and smoking too much; Yesterday I was sore, and didn't really want to do much, and our Weather here in Southeastern Michigan was Snow again, and by like 4 or 5 PM I was legit ready to go to bed but I couldn't. So I did what any common sense person would do in my situation, and ground up about a quarter ounce of Blue Cheese (The super floral sweet Phenotype that I sprouted this passed season, which has a very spicy note to it) and that ended up being 13 Joints of decent size. I gave one to my soon to be in laws, and smoked all but 4 with my Fiance with a bit of Skywalker in between. Do I smoke too much? I don't know, I'm not too worried about it though, I mean, I've got pounds of it, and I'm itching to start soaking seeds but have to wait because its still too cold here.

@Ramjet159 - Are you using Grove Bags or some other bag that keeps the moister properly ? I do still have about 7 of those bags with various strains but for Blue Cheese and Chem D I didn't really trust them enough to stick those two in bags, so, there's a single bag with some Blue Cheese in it, which I do need to check at some point, since the other bags are doing a decent job. I lost like an eighth of Blue Cheese because it was a little too moist to go in a bag, and after a day it was so wet I had to remove it and some had started looking gnarly and I was like "Nope fuck this back to the jars it is" LOL.

 

[Psychobilly]

By the way, just in my various burping methods I use when I'm experimenting with different curing methods, I now have two jars of Chem D left, both from the same seedling, and one smells mainly of burnt rubber and Pin Sol, and the other..... I don't know how else to say this; Fruity Pebbles in Milk left next to an open bottle of Pine Sol.... Very strange to say the least, but that jar is a little more moist than the other one, so I think a slow cure is doing the same thing my Detroit Lemonade did the previous year; The last jar of that had easily the most amazing smell! I had 3 clones of that strain, and my soon to be Father in Law had multiple clones of it too, and the indoor was fruitier smelling at first, but after a few months of the Jar, the indoor wasn't quite as nice, and did NOT seem to have the odd Skunky Pungent smell that the outdoor had after months had passed. It gave me the idea of trying different drying and curing methods as I noticed differences even in clones.

 

[AmatFumusViriditas]

I gotta be honest . When I first read the thread name I thought you meant you were smoking way too much ( yeah many will say arguably ?)
I was on a forum one day and this young punk was telling me I was literally being cruel to my plants by running them 24 hrs light .
Was one of those conversations you were just never going to win so whatever son . Just keep reading your grow bedtime stories and everything will be ok .
On the drying note I’m as old school as it gets . 2 weeks hanging in my garden shed give or take a few days , a quick squeeze sniff test and then bagged up and burped maybe once or twice for good measure .
That’s it ?

No such thing as smoking too much in my book. Too much is never enough. I quit smoking for a decade, about a decade and a half ago and have been making up for lost time ever since.

 

[Ramjet159]

No such thing as smoking too much in my book. Too much is never enough. I quit smoking for a decade, about a decade and a half ago and have been making up for lost time ever since.

I’ve noticed it’s a very personal thing with tolerance levels and individual ability to still function as a heavy smoker . We all know the dude that sits in the corner and is just happy to focus on breathing and not falling asleep while on the flip side others are carrying on as per normal .
Ive had a few mates over the years that simply never should have smoked . It literally rendered them useless .

 

[Ramjet159]

Speaking of nice cures and smoking too much; Yesterday I was sore, and didn't really want to do much, and our Weather here in Southeastern Michigan was Snow again, and by like 4 or 5 PM I was legit ready to go to bed but I couldn't. So I did what any common sense person would do in my situation, and ground up about a quarter ounce of Blue Cheese (The super floral sweet Phenotype that I sprouted this passed season, which has a very spicy note to it) and that ended up being 13 Joints of decent size. I gave one to my soon to be in laws, and smoked all but 4 with my Fiance with a bit of Skywalker in between. Do I smoke too much? I don't know, I'm not too worried about it though, I mean, I've got pounds of it, and I'm itching to start soaking seeds but have to wait because its still too cold here.

@Ramjet159 - Are you using Grove Bags or some other bag that keeps the moister properly ? I do still have about 7 of those bags with various strains but for Blue Cheese and Chem D I didn't really trust them enough to stick those two in bags, so, there's a single bag with some Blue Cheese in it, which I do need to check at some point, since the other bags are doing a decent job. I lost like an eighth of Blue Cheese because it was a little too moist to go in a bag, and after a day it was so wet I had to remove it and some had started looking gnarly and I was like "Nope fuck this back to the jars it is" LOL.

I honestly have never even heard of Grove bags ? Maybe we have them but if so I’m not aware of them . I usually stow a week or two in a glass sealed jar and then Cryovac the rest . Seems to work well
Note to one self to make sure jar put back in overhead cupboard is stable so it doesn’t fall down from above my head and break my toe again .
Idiot !!!

 

[PlumberSoCal]

When I was 16 I'd be driving with my knees and rolling a joint. Weed doesn't get me that bombed but add in a bunch of alchohol and fly me away!

 

[Ramjet159]

When I was 16 I'd be driving with my knees and rolling a joint. Weed doesn't get me that bombed but add in a bunch of alchohol and fly me away!

Oh yeah !!
I’ve come home from the pub on more than one occasion drunk . Had a bong and then found myself lying out on the front lawn with the dog sniffing my head wondering why I’m on his patch

 

[PlumberSoCal]

Oh yeah !!
I’ve come home from the pub on more than one occasion drunk . Had a bong and then found myself lying out on the front lawn with the dog sniffing my head wondering why I’m on his patch

Yup. Fun times?

 

[Psychobilly]

I honestly have never even heard of Grove bags ? Maybe we have them but if so I’m not aware of them . I usually stow a week or two in a glass sealed jar and then Cryovac the rest . Seems to work well
Note to one self to make sure jar put back in overhead cupboard is stable so it doesn’t fall down from above my head and break my toe again .
Idiot !!!

Ahh! There's a thread about them on here I think started by PlumberSoCal, and they're designed so that you can dry the buds, and stick them in, and they're smell proof, and supposed to keep humidity between a certain percent, and apparently they prevent mold, and help with terpenes, though I'm using them for the first time. As long as the Bud is dry, you can pop them in, and forget about it.

And yes, Jars are pretty heavy from high up and I can imagine that scream of "Ah shit!" when it lands LOL. My friend had a can fall on her toe and broke it I think, and my dumb ass was all like "Was it a can of PotaTOES?" LOL.

 

[Psychobilly]

Yup. Fun times?

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