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I’m not sure mate . I’m really apprehensive to spray anything on them while heavily into flower . Cheers ???
You can, and I have before. Last summer I was dealing with aphids as well. No chemicals though. Just plant oils, horticultural oil, neem, and horticultural soap.
If doing so make sure to do a bud wash at harvest. I'd hang the plants in the shower and wash, the hose out behind the truck in the driveway, or a large barrel for dunk washing.
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Ramjet159

pHeno pHisher
Sometimes you get that plant with a real solid rigid heavy frame that looks like it could do anything , maybe something special . It’s so stout even bending young branches is kind of danger Will Robinson ? they may snap . THseeds Bubblegum. Let’s see what happens . It’s sort of saying I’ll throw some hearty chunk . Hope so ?? 315DEDC3-326E-4C5F-9017-FF86B422B915.png 60428417-5537-47E9-88A8-887C22346C66.jpeg
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
I’m not sure mate . I’m really apprehensive to spray anything on them while heavily into flower . Cheers ???
if before 3/4 week of bloom stage, I suggest using a good ipm of bio controls + knockout ( if pest present , otherwise just biocontrol )
the issue with people applying “knockouts” and tradional miticides/pesticides is the resistant gain but also cost and even stress on plant. i would caution any grower who depends on any tradional pesticide or way and only applying when they see it ( besides last weeks if ur not at high population of pest )

‘’even if your plants currently are over that stage, if it was me I would have my IPM plan going for next round and always ! pest are like std’s, once u got em there a bitch but protection def will raise the bar of it ever becoming a issue.

for knockout suggestion before 3/4th week ( if pest present ) I would suggest rotational going 2-3 diff products and the bio controls added to the defense ( majority can be added )

for cost and effective on IPM knockout I would suggest evergreen 5.0. conserve sc than making a diy version of green cleaner . To make a diy version of green cleaner (1/3 70% iso + bronzers sals soap + canola oil , shake before mixing into water, 1/2 oz-2 oz per gal and wait 15 min to let dissolve, the green cleaner is only product I would not suggest mixing others with it )

key with this knock/bio is Rotional spraying at egg hatch rate and ‘pest suggestion rates For the specific pest. Example two spot/mites it’s 3 days
IPM plan for two spot : ipm1 :evergreen 5.0 + grandevo , 3 days spray ipm2 conserve sc + venerate , 3 days later ipm3 apply green cleaner (by itself ). I woild suggest to scope/scan your leafs after everyday-3days than every week once population check misc and obvious infections. If infection goes to under 10% or none only apply biocontrols and pest scan afterwards. Otherwise continue back to ipm1 and make sure pest is going away. than after 3/4th week of bloom only Grandevo/venerate . Key is never letting pest have that gain while ur blind.

reason why I don’t suggest just one option is pest become resistant and diff stages or species def won’t be eliminated with one product. therefor in a infection I would always suggest spraying the pest based in hatch time and doing a multi IPM rotation .


beyond 3/4th week you really should avoid any tradional based pesticide that isn’t approved and tested for flower stage for cannabis . best example of IPM in flower stage and can be anytime you can use a biocontrol like Grandevo/venerate ( rotate each product every 7-14 days) and this ipm plan will not only guratee your pest free but if one does come into enviroment everything that’s foliarEd has a defense ( biocontrol, which it’s a killed/heated fungus that when pest smells and than eats it, it will kill them, slow them down , and not allow to reproduce as quickly )

the reason for two biocontrols and used at diff spray rational is not the resistant issues it’s the pest becoming more attracted or willing to eat ur plants over the fungus. think of anyone or thing, if you eat the same thing and even if it was ur favorite thing. If you have other food choices, wouldn’t u eat some? that’s why u use terp attracted fungus like Grandevo and venerate ( they don’t ever become bored and it fucks em up )

per gallon price of bio controls is fantastic and it makes it a cemented IPM that not only doesn’t have resistant issues but if you don’t see any pest by 3/4 week before flower you can stop none the less just to save cash. When you do not see pest you can also have it at lowest dosage and its very interesting the dosages only is a factor of smell and attraction vs how much it will kill them. both products Inless over population infection can knock out and if sprayed fully on all parts of plant , one of the biggest mistakes on sprayers is also having the s-rather do jet mode/droplets cause the key with any foliar is full coverage ( since not systemic)


Side tip on Grandevo/venerate i would always suggest getting bigger bottles ( quart& gallon vs 2.5 ) I would always suggest the 2.5 gal because it’s 30%+ cheaper . product is great per gallon and also has great shelf life. Hard to beat a product where it’s harmless to you, can be used tillharvest , won’t hurt bees & can kill and defend 150+ diff soft bodied bugs including russets and broad!




edit: I didn’t realize till now I already gave u IPM suggestion. just trying to help I wrote this)

good general IPM info none the less lol

for aphids a mix of Grandevo or venerate with some botaniguard and there done. all flower-end harvest approved. Aphids indoors are super easy to kill out, they don’t have Allie’s like ants and the enviroment to colony in as easy
 
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BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
Dunno what’s hit these leaves early in the grow ? It’s fixed itself anyway but just wondering ??‍♂️ View attachment 92877 View attachment 92876 View attachment 92875

that’s calcium deficiency

for quick fix and to guratee your plants full coverage of leaf, I woild suggest cal carb foliar


works great and very soluable. Cheap too’



not only can u use it to help ur current issue I, it’d a great way to guratee even if ur medium isnt intaking as quick or things are growing fast ( this will give fast coverage ) mix with all my IPM and apply every 2weeks-4 weeks and stop 4th-6th week of bloom

plants are micro whores, exp when they are growing healthy. Key is knowing that and not letting them show the signs. those deficiencies n the current leafs are like scars . So visually only look at new growth for that
 
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18B

In Bloom
I just use 50 50 mix of water and 92% alcohol, spray the whole plant...over and under...doesn't hurt the plant, alcohol evaporates after doing it's job...I have seen a few signs of mites and I spray every day for 4 days then eod...my friend has recommended...Dr Zymes right to the finish of flower...so...we are trying it.
 

Ramjet159

pHeno pHisher
I just use 50 50 mix of water and 92% alcohol, spray the whole plant...over and under...doesn't hurt the plant, alcohol evaporates after doing it's job...I have seen a few signs of mites and I spray every day for 4 days then eod...my friend has recommended...Dr Zymes right to the finish of flower...so...we are trying it.
Wow every day ok . I just hit my photos last night with a mix I saw on YouTube from as far as I could tell a pretty accomplished gardener . I believe he recommended every 9-10 days for Spidermites but if you’ve been using alcohol every day with no issues I’ll factor that in if it doesn’t harm them . 37448011-CE15-4DBD-A75D-22003F120F76.jpeg This is the combination I use with added water. The alcohol would make up about an 1/8 of the final solution and it still fumed out the tent pretty hard . I’m still pretty new to indoors so always keen to learn ?
 

Ramjet159

pHeno pHisher
that’s calcium deficiency

for quick fix and to guratee your plants full coverage of leaf, I woild suggest cal carb foliar


works great and very soluable. Cheap too’



not only can u use it to help ur current issue I, it’d a great way to guratee even if ur medium isnt intaking as quick or things are growing fast ( this will give fast coverage ) mix with all my IPM and apply every 2weeks-4 weeks and stop 4th-6th week of bloom

plants are micro whores, exp when they are growing healthy. Key is knowing that and not letting them show the signs. those deficiencies n the current leafs are like scars . So visually only look at new growth for that
Thanks very much for taking the time to give extensive information and I was actually wondering myself if it was a calcium issue . It only occurred on one set of young leaves and didn’t reappear . I started the seeds in a small pocket of pretty ordinary seedling mix nutrient wise which is probably why as the roots found richer soil it self corrected perhaps
 

Ramjet159

pHeno pHisher
So after suffering spider mites yet again I’m saddling up for the next rodeo and moving on for my reset grow . Hit the tent with insect Bomb then alcohol / soap mix then bleach . If they survived that then cockroaches have a new contender .
Nothing too fancy so some old hat Purple Punch , Ghost Train Haze , Kosher Kush , Cookies Kush and Hells Fire x Goliath ( thanks @Frimpong ) . I can do no more but wait and see ??‍♂️ . 6F9C12DB-0E71-4C5F-A3EB-62BF46A0C8D7.jpeg
 

Frimpong

🔥Freak Genetics🔥
So after suffering spider mites yet again I’m saddling up for the next rodeo and moving on for my reset grow . Hit the tent with insect Bomb then alcohol / soap mix then bleach . If they survived that then cockroaches have a new contender .
Nothing too fancy so some old hat Purple Punch , Ghost Train Haze , Kosher Kush , Cookies Kush and Hells Fire x Goliath ( thanks @Frimpong ) . I can do no more but wait and see ??‍♂️ . View attachment 102243
Ohhhh shit u popped those hells fire ! Woooooo . Sorry to hear about your hiccup brother
 

Ramjet159

pHeno pHisher
A few pics . Nothing too exciting yet CD2FD277-0997-4DD4-A337-1BA94141D065.jpeg Hell’s Fire x Goliath (In House ) 10B79174-C7E0-4AD1-978C-F705118EA3F5.jpeg Ghost Train Haze ( Rare Dankness) going again coz it melted my face last grow 4FCFAC57-703E-49D0-9B5A-3088AD2F6B31.jpeg Purple Punch ( ?) stretching ……….. A2A8B00F-D013-4647-B5A1-135344EFF7D7.jpeg BlackBerry Bread going ok considering she was transferred under LEDs after flowering outdoors for 2 weeks
 
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