Reuse and recycle. Homemade nutes from waste.

[Rozgreenburn]

I am always looking for a way to use all my produce. Mid Summer this year, I took all my leaves after harvest and put them in a 30 gallon garbage can. I added enough water to cover things by 6 inches. I added 1 cup of Molasses, all my squeezed buds from RSO, and 1 dry gallon of cow manure. I set it where it would get full sun all day, then I'd stir it vigorously with a canoe paddle weekly. 3 weeks ago, I strained it and sealed it in 5 gallon buckets and empty 1 gallon bleach bottles. I've been watering with it at the ratio of 1/12 to 2 ounces per gallon. I intend to use this all Winter, and then this Spring I'll post a detailed account of my results.
I grow in full organic Super Soil, so this is just a little boost that will replace the organic tea I was brewing every other week. So far the girls are happy with it!

 

[JL2G]

I am always looking for a way to use all my produce. Mid Summer this year, I took all my leaves after harvest and put them in a 30 gallon garbage can. I added enough water to cover things by 6 inches. I added 1 cup of Molasses, all my squeezed buds from RSO, and 1 dry gallon of cow manure. I set it where it would get full sun all day, then I'd stir it vigorously with a canoe paddle weekly. 3 weeks ago, I strained it and sealed it in 5 gallon buckets and empty 1 gallon bleach bottles. I've been watering with it at the ratio of 1/12 to 2 ounces per gallon. I intend to use this all Winter, and then this Spring I'll post a detailed account of my results.
I grow in full organic Super Soil, so this is just a little boost that will replace the organic tea I was brewing every other week. So far the girls are happy with it!

Subbed, interested to see yer results mang. Nice grow test imho.

 

[Rozgreenburn]

Been using my home made nutes for a month now, and I see no negatives. The girls love it, veg and bloom both! I'm now using 2 ounces per gallon. No longer making organic teas, but this seems to keep the microbes fed!

I love to try using all my waste as opposed to just throwing it all away. It actually looks like this could save me some coin, and make a healthy addition to my ongoing journey!

 

[Frosty78]

Been using my home made nutes for a month now, and I see no negatives. The girls love it, veg and bloom both! I'm now using 2 ounces per gallon. No longer making organic teas, but this seems to keep the microbes fed! I love to try using all my waste as opposed to just throwing it all away. It actually looks like this could save me some coin, and make a healthy addition to my ongoing journey!

Jlf for the win there mate. Can't go wrong with that. I have three bins set up,
Rootballs (higher in phosphorus and bit of potassium
Leaves, small branches and also food scraps the chooks are too fussy with. High nitrogen content.
Third is fruit bloom, chopped up fruit and old apple core,banana skins, nearly all fruit and that's the potassium.
10-30ml per litre for outdoor soil drench in the natural soil as heavy feed. 10ml per litre is pretty good and foliar with 1-2ml per litre so they don't get burnt.
Soon you'll be into you're own cal mag.
Good stuff roz

 

[Z71banshee]

This is something I need to follow! I’ve only tried the fermented JADAM style once with fruit and it didn’t work so well. Last year I did a potato ferment for my vegetable garden and the plants started to boom!

 

[Frosty78]

@rozhave you tried to sub pasta water or boiled potato's water (par boil for roast spuds) as a sub for molasses.....I've found all those extra starches and also left over potato skins or mash potato are a gold mine to sub in. Maybe it's the tight arse I am...$30 for 20 litres of molasses from stock feed joint I have but I've used alot of the other stuff I've mentioned.

 

[Z71banshee]

@rozhave you tried to sub pasta water or boiled potato's water (par boil for roast spuds) as a sub for molasses.....I've found all those extra starches and also left over potato skins or mash potato are a gold mine to sub in. Maybe it's the tight arse I am...$30 for 20 litres of molasses from stock feed joint I have but I've used alot of the other stuff I've mentioned.

I was just wondering about pasta water the other night while making some lasagna. The girlfriend knows that any potato water and corn water goes in the compost bin or directly in the garden. Corn water is amazing stuff! If I water the garden directly, I’ll mix it 50/50 with water and all the plants love it….especially the sweet corn!

 

[Frosty78]

I was just wondering about pasta water the other night while making some lasagna. The girlfriend knows that any potato water and corn water goes in the compost bin or directly in the garden. Corn water is amazing stuff! If I water the garden directly, I’ll mix it 50/50 with water and all the plants love it….especially the sweet corn!

The microbes love it I've found in my jlf bins.

 

[Rozgreenburn]

@rozhave you tried to sub pasta water or boiled potato's water (par boil for roast spuds) as a sub for molasses.....I've found all those extra starches and also left over potato skins or mash potato are a gold mine to sub in. Maybe it's the tight arse I am...$30 for 20 litres of molasses from stock feed joint I have but I've used alot of the other stuff I've mentioned.

My wife saves the boiled potato water for me, but I've been using it to add to a fresh compost start. I picked up a gallon of unsulfured molasses last fall for $25 and it goes a long way! I foolishly never thought about pasta water, thanks!

 

[Rozgreenburn]

Starting a new batch in a 55 gallon plastic barrel. It will take until Summer to get it 2/3 full. I only add enough water to cover the new vegetable matter. Freeze /thaw will break the matter down before I start to ferment. Potato and pasta water will play a part too!

 

[Frosty78]

That rootball ferment has been killer. I let it get a little low and add up some more fresh water and stir in a 20lt bucket and lid (thank God for the lid). That's a day after topping up. Rancid but the phosphorous in it gives me isfantastic with the microbes. Rootball wall and pasta water in it and top up when low.

That's my microbe water. 240lt bin with dripline at bottom to gravity feed. Simple ball valve. Pasta water, stocking with mushroom compost, some leaf litter, some myco and through some labs in for good measure. I let it brew for a day or two and let it rip. This one doesn't smell bad compared to other jlf inputs. All the weeds on the ground get put into nitrogen jlf 55lt bin. Still not as bad smelling as root ferment but still pretty bad. I'll be watering veggies out front for a about 10 weeks comes flower time to throw the rippers off.


I've found in the natural ground that one cup per 9lt bucket or roughly 1:30 ratio is potent. For foliar I'm going to stick to jadam recommendations for foliar but soil once a fortnight at that for a soil drench is proving awesome for me playing catch up. I was a month behind planting out and I've noticed since applying with a good serving of gypsum and mushroom compost is working wonders for catch up. I won't get what I was planning for but I'll get a nice respectable harvest now

 

[Rozgreenburn]

Starting a new batch in a 55 gallon plastic barrel. It will take until Summer to get it 2/3 full. I only add enough water to cover the new vegetable matter. Freeze /thaw will break the matter down before I start to ferment. Potato and pasta water will play a part too!

Next month I will sieve and collect my reward! I should acquire about 15-20 gallons of organic nutes, and then I'll start filling the drum for next seasons mix.
Since I grow in organic medium, only water with some Cal-Mag and 1 ounce of this booster per gallon. Easy and cheap, just like me!!!

 

[Nefar]

I've been thinking of harvesting snail shells out of my aquarium and grinding them up for calcium. They should have a low amount of mag as well.

 

[Mr Jay]

and grinding them up for

,,, a entire host of benefits


" because chitin and chitosan are
biodegradable materials, they support environmental
sustainability.

https://jfqhc.ssu.ac.ir/article-1-1187-en.pdf

Methods of preparation include mineralization and protein stripping.
I avoid recipes with battery acid, so I think I will just let my compost pile do the work.
My PHDown product is Citric.
Mentions acetic acid ; I got vinegar !
Protiens are highly volatile, fairly confident 'the pile' knows what to do

Methods mention medium heat drying.
I seem to recall something about preparing eggshells in the oven. I can't remember if it is to dry them or to actually bake them.

Aquariums are goldmines for gardens.
Super high CEC with greenstone, calcined clay and bentonite.

That one is pretty fresh. After a few years it was half Ramshorn and MTS.
Nice viens of Iron visible under the bottom pane.

 

[Nefar]

Ahh data.. data... nice.

Most of mine is mystery snail, & assassin snail. The 'mystery snails' get pretty big. Plus I have shrimp. The shrimp tank I have nothing but clay balls in and I've printed some grids for the bottom which I think can rig to bascially suck all the waste out. I've more than once thought about harvesting it, drying it in some manner for amendments. If I could just slow the planet down to give me at least another 20 hours in a day I'd be good & a robot to do the manual labor.

 

[Mr Jay]

I have had mystery snails put down egg blobs, but it is too dry here to have them ever hatch. Malaysian trumpet snails typically hitchhike in with plants. I really like Naja grass with shrimp, but the MTS are more likely to show up with slower growing plants like swords or crypts. I like the mts, because they get right down into the substrate and push stuff around much like an earth worm would do terrestrialy.

printed some grids for the bottom

Air lifted UGF are the bomb for shrimp.

harvesting it, drying it in some manner for amendments.

That would be awesome. That stuff is the cradle of life.

I dig these kind of threads, so I'm going to add a note about fish filter media.



Carbon, zeolite, humalite, pumice,,, anything with surface area, is going to get colonized.

Most of that jadam stuff is anaerobic.
Time intensive. Works just great, but it's not the only Avenue to get there.

Nh4 and Nh2 can handshake via nitrifying bacteria to (potentially) create the NO3 that our plants are looking for.

It is competing while it is in the water column but it's contributing afterwards.
Just like people would would call 'Hot soil' if it burns their plans.
Did the nitrogen actually burn your plants? Or was the nitrogen availability simply outcompeted by the bloom of bacteria?
- I have been reading up on that one, but I don't understand it, yet

Anywho, what I wanted to say was
Aquarium water- good
Suspended, deep filter sludge- bad

I wiped out a tray of seedlings with the sludge of a hang on back filter.
It was just too much for the little guys to handle. 😬

 

[Nefar]

I have had mystery snails put down egg blobs, but it is too dry here to have them ever hatch. Malaysian trumpet snails typically hitchhike in with plants. I really like Naja grass with shrimp, but the MTS are more likely to show up with slower growing plants like swords or crypts. I like the mts, because they get right down into the substrate and push stuff around much like an earth worm would do terrestrialy.

Flipped the lid today:

 

[Mr Jay]

Beautiful.

Let me know if they hatch out. Never seen Mystery babies.

 

[Nefar]

moist / not wet - paper towel on bottom of a tupperwear, holes in the top for air, sit it on top of the light. Couple weeks they will hatch.

 

[webeblzr]

Pan fried egg shells, for Calcium Acetate.



Filter save juice, I add it to water tote, till I see about a 100 ppm's .