I wonder if this trait applies to multiple plants that are the same strain?
Could a GSC affect a neighboring GSC?
Or does this only apply to different strains neighboring each other?
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Could a GSC affect a neighboring GSC?
Or does this only apply to different strains neighboring each other?
Buck5050
Underground Chucker
What an interesting possibility.
I have personally assumed this as well and I feel like I have proved this to myself in the past. Because of the inconsistent quality of past grows I always focus on a certain canopy development. Incorporating a technique to force the issue (be it tie-down or bending stems) has become common practice in my garden. 2cents, I feel like if I had an absolutely perfect canopy that it would represent the best quality flower in the end. I can't speak on the rootzone effect as I grow in individual containers.
loveMyTerpz
In Bloom
I so happy to have found this forum! I've been sitting on some Skunky VA beans that I'm getting into my next run. More to the point - I had read a study a while back that I didn't bookmark and couldn't find just now that relates. They found that cannabis plants, grown in soil, did better when grown in communal beds than in individual containers. IIRC, they were better in the sense of cannabinoid content and yield. They attributed the results to plant communication in the rootzone. I don't recall if they were the same strains or different.Schwaggy stumbles onto something interesting maybe…
I do a bit of hydro growing using flood and drain setups. I usually have between 6-15 plants/table depending on table size. For years I’ve tried what I call “potpourri” trays that are just different cuts on the same table. After a while I noticed that whenever I mono-cropped a table, the quality of the final plants were very consistent and could hit the potential.
My potpourri trays would usually be a mixed bag as far as how well each plant would hit its potential. It was always a source of great frustration. Come harvest, there was always a couple plants that just missed the mark on quality. Sometimes, these plants would just crash out hard in uncharacteristic ways when compared to their mono-cropped performance. I would eventually come to assume that maybe the inconsistent canopy of having different cuts on the table would deviate optimal light height and explain the results. Strangely, the plants that set the height would even come out subpar.
I would hang out in my flower room high as a kite just thinking about what could explain this. I thought about how the plants can “talk” to each other by releasing compounds that can trigger other plants.
While it’s understandable to think of plants as pleasant stationary scenery, they are organisms competing with others after scarce resources for domination to ensure future progeny. There’s no reason to assume plants are only using their ability to interact altruistically warning others of danger and well wishing. So I thought: what if some of these plants are producing chemicals and exuding them from their roots to “poison the well” and harm the other cuts sharing the same rez?
I decide to search roots releasing harmful chems and find:
Oh shit, could it be?...I now search for cannabis + allelopathic plants
Could it be? Are some cuts just better assassins? Holy shit, do I need to start noting allelopathic ninja traits now?!
I don’t know whether these few quick-scan dot connections really mean that each pheno has an inherent murder trait, but it’s fun to think about.
DavidDellaRocco
In Bloom
It's basically like the movie "The Happening", only the plants haven't decided we are the enemy yet lol
I do a bit of hydro growing using flood and drain setups. I usually have between 6-15 plants/table depending on table size. For years I’ve tried what I call “potpourri” trays that are just different cuts on the same table. After a while I noticed that whenever I mono-cropped a table, the quality of the final plants were very consistent and could hit the potential.
My potpourri trays would usually be a mixed bag as far as how well each plant would hit its potential. It was always a source of great frustration. Come harvest, there was always a couple plants that just missed the mark on quality. Sometimes, these plants would just crash out hard in uncharacteristic ways when compared to their mono-cropped performance. I would eventually come to assume that maybe the inconsistent canopy of having different cuts on the table would deviate optimal light height and explain the results. Strangely, the plants that set the height would even come out subpar.
I would hang out in my flower room high as a kite just thinking about what could explain this. I thought about how the plants can “talk” to each other by releasing compounds that can trigger other plants.
While it’s understandable to think of plants as pleasant stationary scenery, they are organisms competing with others after scarce resources for domination to ensure future progeny. There’s no reason to assume plants are only using their ability to interact altruistically warning others of danger and well wishing. So I thought: what if some of these plants are producing chemicals and exuding them from their roots to “poison the well” and harm the other cuts sharing the same rez?
I decide to search roots releasing harmful chems and find:
Oh shit, could it be?...I now search for cannabis + allelopathic plants
Could it be? Are some cuts just better assassins? Holy shit, do I need to start noting allelopathic ninja traits now?!
I don’t know whether these few quick-scan dot connections really mean that each pheno has an inherent murder trait, but it’s fun to think about.
I saw you post this and went to grab a pack of those Schwaggy's Skunk #1s and they're already gone ?
Orion
CHOOSE YOUR TITLE
I bought those for the vault...if you can't grab a pack anywhere, let me know and I would be happy to part with one if it's something you really wanted.
loveMyTerpz
In Bloom
OK. I found the study, and I stand corrected - they only tested the yields and not cannabinoids.
Plant growth comparison of Cannabis sativa when grown in isolated cont – KIS Organics
Plant growth comparison of Cannabis sativa when grown in isolated cont – KIS Organics
I have buckets and f/d tables. I don't monocrop, closest would be multiple seed starts or clones from different moms.
I do a bit of hydro growing using flood and drain setups. I usually have between 6-15 plants/table depending on table size. For years I’ve tried what I call “potpourri” trays that are just different cuts on the same table. After a while I noticed that whenever I mono-cropped a table, the quality of the final plants were very consistent and could hit the potential.
My potpourri trays would usually be a mixed bag as far as how well each plant would hit its potential. It was always a source of great frustration. Come harvest, there was always a couple plants that just missed the mark on quality. Sometimes, these plants would just crash out hard in uncharacteristic ways when compared to their mono-cropped performance. I would eventually come to assume that maybe the inconsistent canopy of having different cuts on the table would deviate optimal light height and explain the results. Strangely, the plants that set the height would even come out subpar.
I would hang out in my flower room high as a kite just thinking about what could explain this. I thought about how the plants can “talk” to each other by releasing compounds that can trigger other plants.
While it’s understandable to think of plants as pleasant stationary scenery, they are organisms competing with others after scarce resources for domination to ensure future progeny. There’s no reason to assume plants are only using their ability to interact altruistically warning others of danger and well wishing. So I thought: what if some of these plants are producing chemicals and exuding them from their roots to “poison the well” and harm the other cuts sharing the same rez?
I decide to search roots releasing harmful chems and find:
Oh shit, could it be?...I now search for cannabis + allelopathic plants
Could it be? Are some cuts just better assassins? Holy shit, do I need to start noting allelopathic ninja traits now?!
I don’t know whether these few quick-scan dot connections really mean that each pheno has an inherent murder trait, but it’s fun to think about.
The buckets are new for me. What I saw for the same cultivar was one pheno pushed pH up, while the other pushed it down. In a tray I feel these have a chance to balance each other so I think it would also be valuable to identify synergistic pairings as well.
Sunflowers do this.
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Much appreciated!
Dino Party
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Anecdotal evidence, but the two most identical plants I had in my tent this round happened to be the same seeds right next to each other, they looked almost identical. Lol although i'm sure that has more to do with genetics and not murderous phenos. Really interesting theory, i'm gonna be chewing on that one while I'm walking today for a while.
Highsince76
In Bloom
My bro just snagged a pack of the Afghan Skunk after the restock. He won't be able to get into them right away, but he's pumped.
Me to... don't think I've ever sampled anything with Green crack in it.
Me to... don't think I've ever sampled anything with Green crack in it.
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Dam that's def same cut ! Wow
'80s Black Afghani (Strayfox cut)
Somehow missed when you posted this but ya, that looks just like the cut I got! I've been loving smoking this one, can't wait to hear your thoughts on it
The NL-Hashplants have been thinned out and space has opened up in the veg room. Going through seeds to find the next pops and these are leading the list for next-up so far.
Purpetrator - (Archive) : Royal Kush (aka Velvet Kush) x Face Off OG BX1
In the Pines - (Aficionado) : Pineapple Thai x Master Kush x Pineapple
I'm looking for a complementary male for a BX project (personal project) to preserve a Chocolate Mint OG female that I'd cry if I ever lost. The Purpetrator also being a purple OG should fit the bill while throwing some interesting females.
The In the Pines is a 1:1-1:2 ; THC:CBD Sativa that can finish within 8-10wks
I'm sure by the end of the day my next-up list will change several times but I'm pretty sold on these two right now (until I open my Bodhi jar)
In the Pines - (Aficionado) : Pineapple Thai x Master Kush x Pineapple
I'm looking for a complementary male for a BX project (personal project) to preserve a Chocolate Mint OG female that I'd cry if I ever lost. The Purpetrator also being a purple OG should fit the bill while throwing some interesting females.
The In the Pines is a 1:1-1:2 ; THC:CBD Sativa that can finish within 8-10wks
I'm sure by the end of the day my next-up list will change several times but I'm pretty sold on these two right now (until I open my Bodhi jar)
GthaEnigma
Canna-Arborist
Both are solid choices. I am a fan of Aficiando's older work. Last i grew of theirs was Pineapple Sorbet which featured In The Pines in its heritage. Should be some loud pineapple notes in there. I love the name, it is a nod to a notorious cannabis growing enclave in the emerald triangle.
