David DoCoughKnee
In Bloom
I’m thinking I should give another spray in the first week of flower ? Any thoughts I’ll be using green clean
Can I spray green clean in first two weeks of flower ?
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DemonTrich
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I think it's safe to spray before the onset of flower production. Are ya having issues with pm? Why the need to spray?
David DoCoughKnee
In Bloom
No PM just seen a couple little gnats in a couple plants during watering
DemonTrich
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green clean just fine for the beginning of flower. I've used it pretty far along before. The alcohol in it helps it evaporate pretty quickly too. If it's just gnats and you don't wanna spray, throw down some of the sticky traps maybe? They're annoying but effective.
DemonTrich
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Sticker traps, DE sprinkled in the surface (once wet it's useless), 1/2" layer of sand on top of soil, safer soap will also work.
Did you not notice the FG in veg? How did they come about at flip?
Willie
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If you are having a pm problem, spray your plants with sulfur just prior to going into flower.
This guy explains it better than I can but I will say that his methods work. I never used Green Clean again because I never got pm since.
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Green Clean is literally all I ever use anymore outside of Ladybugs and other predatory insects. The bottle SAYS you can use it the day of harvest even.... I'll be honest here, I don't think I'd do that personally, but it does appear to be the safer option.
This past season I had some PM start showing it's face around a few plants in the garden, so we had to spray them. They were well into flower, but, my garden is outside, so rain helps flush away anything leftover.
This past season I had some PM start showing it's face around a few plants in the garden, so we had to spray them. They were well into flower, but, my garden is outside, so rain helps flush away anything leftover.
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Milk works better than green clean for me for pm outside ..........which is epidemic outside here close to harvest time.
David DoCoughKnee
In Bloom
I just noticed them when I was cleaning out the bottoms of the plant and all branches that wouldn’t produce. I’ve noticed that since I stopped mixing my dirt with other beneficial soils I haven’t seen them much. Just promix with a little ocean forest and some type of amendment the fg”s aren’t nearly as bad as before
Sticker traps, DE sprinkled in the surface (once wet it's useless), 1/2" layer of sand on top of soil, safer soap will also work.
Did you not notice the FG in veg? How did they come about at flip?
David DoCoughKnee
In Bloom
I’ve used these before and might go back to them they work !
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Kaese Kaiser
Yeah same; Michigan in late Summer and Fall, is like the humidity of the Jungle, and without the Jaguars for me to try and pet
DemonTrich
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Here's my trick after 10yrs of battling them in my ocean forest soil.
I used a product called promis. Active ingredient is imiclapradid. 1ml/gal will kill all fg.
I used a product called promis. Active ingredient is imiclapradid. 1ml/gal will kill all fg.
Have to apologize I thought the FG IPM SOP was already populated.
1. Manage watering, stop overwatering, subwater in case of outbreak if possible. The rest of these are in no particular order.
2. 50:50 cinnamon
.E add ~25% mustard seed meal, use caution with seedlings and starter soil.
3. Mulch - many options
4. Trap adults - many options
5. Beneficials
6. Soil/media treatments
There's more detail but it belongs in the ipm sop.
1. Manage watering, stop overwatering, subwater in case of outbreak if possible. The rest of these are in no particular order.
2. 50:50 cinnamon
.E add ~25% mustard seed meal, use caution with seedlings and starter soil.3. Mulch - many options
4. Trap adults - many options
5. Beneficials
6. Soil/media treatments
There's more detail but it belongs in the ipm sop.
Sometimes this is just adjusting to the needs of the plant, or rather not adjusting.
David DoCoughKnee
In Bloom
Sorry I should have put post ipm sop but thank you for all the advice ??Have to apologize I thought the FG IPM SOP was already populated.
1. Manage watering, stop overwatering, subwater in case of outbreak if possible. The rest of these are in no particular order.
2. 50:50 cinnamon
3. Mulch - many options
4. Trap adults - many options
5. Beneficials
6. Soil/media treatments
There's more detail but it belongs in the ipm sop.
Sometimes this is just adjusting to the needs of the plant, or rather not adjusting.
No problems. Your first question was more general use of a product, not till we dig deeper that we find what the real issue is. It'd just be easier once we hit the actual question to be able to link to the solution and not have a gazillion different options present in 12 different languages, rapid fire barage style. The fg issue is definitely discussed at length on here, please be patient while we build it out.
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I remember those Ocean Forrest gnats, they sucked. This last round of pro mix is not much better. The promis product you use is a systemic. I pass on that because there is no way to wash that off and it will be in the buds. Yes very small, but it's in there. Imiclapradid is one of the ingredients in a Safer product that I use to prevent wooly adgelid in canadian hemlocks, definitely a systemic and it works very, very well. My go to for gnats is to use Bt in the feed water. In one life cycle, all the larvae stage die. Without reinforcements the gnats die out. Takes approx 10 days , first you see a major reduction.....then nada. While the larvae stage are dying I use some sticky traps to knock down the flyers. This works so well I don't view gnats as a problem, just a quick annoyance.
