Online clones

Kold Kasiz said:

Thanks for the heads up, I bit the bait and for some of the same reasons. I love hunting through seeds finding my personal gold more than anything. I would also like to know the breeders vision and pheno they meant it to be. Definitely interested to see how good they are compared to some of my keepers.

Id love to see the bundle you chose, please let us know how it goes. This is the very first time outsourcing clones, i figured you had experience or knew someone since you posted the links.

Ive been curious on the Forbidden Fruit but not really keen on searching through crosses with it.

Also picked up an old favorite for my buddy who will be happy to see the Starkiller Og around again…Hopefully 🤞

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that’s what’s up , I’ll def keep everyone updated on whole cycle and end results . since you asked on what I got , my nerd ass spent some time trying to narrow what I wanted. This is what I purchased

JOKERZ (White Runtz x Jet Fuel Gelato)
Permanent Marker ([Biscotti x Jealousy] x Sherb Bx)
E85 (Wedding Cake x Project 4516)
Apples and Bananas (Platinum Cookies x Grandaddy Purp) x Blue Power) x Gelatti )
Purple Octane Jealousy ((Biscotti x Sherb BX1) x (Jealousy F2)
Jet Fuel Gelato (High Octane x Jet Fuel)
Peanut Butter Zkittlez (Peanut Butter Breath x Zkittlez)
Truffaloha #2 (Beleaf cut)(White Truffle x Platinum Punch(Hawaiian Punch cut)
Animal Tsunami (Animal Cookies x Caramel Tsunami )
Bubble Bath (The Soap x Project 4516)
Platinum Punch Mints (Platinum Punch x Platinum Kush Mints)
Gary Satan ( Gary Payton x Jealousy)
Gas Basket (Gary Payton x Bakers Dozen)
Cap Junky (Alien Cookies x Kush Mints)
Truffle Treats #9 (Dip'N Stix x White Truffle)
Grape Gas (Grape Pie x Jet Fuel Gelato)

BH said:

my nerd ass spent some time trying to narrow what I wanted.

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lol I know what you mean. Hell of a list you finished up with. Can’t wait to see them shine in your care.

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Without even seeing this here, I saw their IG story and ordered a couple myself. Picked up SC Blue Dream and Tropicana Cookies.

BH said:

that’s what’s up , I’ll def keep everyone updated on whole cycle and end results . since you asked on what I got , my nerd ass spent some time trying to narrow what I wanted. This is what I purchased

JOKERZ (White Runtz x Jet Fuel Gelato)
Permanent Marker ([Biscotti x Jealousy] x Sherb Bx)
E85 (Wedding Cake x Project 4516)
Apples and Bananas (Platinum Cookies x Grandaddy Purp) x Blue Power) x Gelatti )
Purple Octane Jealousy ((Biscotti x Sherb BX1) x (Jealousy F2)
Jet Fuel Gelato (High Octane x Jet Fuel)
Peanut Butter Zkittlez (Peanut Butter Breath x Zkittlez)
Truffaloha #2 (Beleaf cut)(White Truffle x Platinum Punch(Hawaiian Punch cut)
Animal Tsunami (Animal Cookies x Caramel Tsunami )
Bubble Bath (The Soap x Project 4516)
Platinum Punch Mints (Platinum Punch x Platinum Kush Mints)
Gary Satan ( Gary Payton x Jealousy)
Gas Basket (Gary Payton x Bakers Dozen)
Cap Junky (Alien Cookies x Kush Mints)
Truffle Treats #9 (Dip'N Stix x White Truffle)
Grape Gas (Grape Pie x Jet Fuel Gelato)

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I was eyeballing that Cap Junky as well 🤤. Great choices bro 👍🔥🔥

sleazyB said:

Have you used them before BH . Ive never bought clones online . Do you think their cuts are what they say they are ? Id love to have the real chem D or 91 in house . Thanks dude

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The guy Chemdog, has a dispensary in Massachusetts where you can buy cuts of Chem D. It's one I would love to have too so I checked it out.

There's a dispensary here that has a license to sell his stuff too but they only had Chemdog 4 when I checked.

Psychobilly said:

The guy Chemdog, has a dispensary in Massachusetts where you can buy cuts of Chem D. It's one I would love to have too so I checked it out.

There's a dispensary here that has a license to sell his stuff too but they only had Chemdog 4 when I checked.

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That's good to know man. I currently have 4 chem 4 S1 in veg right now . The the chem , diesel type terps . I'm also big on OG

Fwiw, the pics they posted of Chem91 and Chem D do not look anything like the actual cultivars.

Idlewilder said:

Fwiw, the pics they posted of Chem91 and Chem D do not look anything like the actual cultivars.

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Love ya bro but No offense but thats broad statement to say that and i disagree ( everyone has their own views and I dig for one reason . I ran both of those clones and seed crosses with both chem 91 and d many times and it does look like that , old school bud ( trust me it’s not eye candy ) . Main argument is there’s no cemented strain for cannabis that 100% guratees the results if you don’t do so, so sometimes it even takes multiple times to get the correct needs from the strain if it’s finicky or has certain needs. environmental changes to growers choices make a huge choices to end result. For example i have given soo many phenos and legit breeder cuts to others and i know my results. But seeing so many times the other growers results def was different and thats why i like to find what works for me vs assuming it will be 100% like the grower before
Me results

Come on cementing if legit based on a pic? These nurseries its not their focus to post pics for proof, this is same thing with seeds when people get mad and say “ it didnt look like theirs” well sometimes the enviroment, growers choices and loving on the plant made a huge % of why. Shoot when I bought meatbreath and a few strains I wondered, why is alll on market I see look like shit? so I continued to grow meat breath and mid way in flower I knew than it def was bad growers and fucking up the end results vs clone. shoot this is why blue dream to gg4 and sooo many good strains get removed from people growing them cause of bad growers making it “bad” vs overall knowing it’s the growrs fault.

im not defending the clone seller I’m just saying there’s sooo much to % in its better to realize a good grower can even make bad strains llook semi good but a bad grower with good strains will still make shitty bud for sooo many reasons

BH said:

No offense but thats broad statement to say that and i disagree for one reason . I ran both of those clones and seed crosses with both chem 91 and d many times and it does look like that , old school bud ( trust me it’s not eye candy ) . Main argument is there’s no cemented strain for cannabis that 100% guratees the results if you don’t do so, so sometimes it even takes multiple times to get the correct needs from the strain if it’s finicky or has certain needs. environmental changes to growers choices make a huge choices to end result. For example i have given soo many phenos and legit breeder cuts to others and i know my results. But seeing so many times the other growers results def was different and thats why i like to find what works for me vs assuming it will be 100% like the grower before
Me results

Come on cementing if legit based on a pic? These nurseries its not their focus to post pics for proof

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I 100% agree that grower and environment influence a cultivar’s characteristics. I guess I should’ve clarified that their pics do not look like Chem91 and Chem D when I’ve grown the clones in my environment, and do not closely resemble pics that other growers have posted. Chile Verde looks like the cut I grow. Chimera looks like the cut I grow. I didn’t make it past the fourth page so I don’t know what else they have.
In todays canna-society, visual appearance carries more weight than almost anything else, with the exception being thc%. As growers, we know the truth…but a lot of custies focus on look and %. I was just stating my opinion from first hand experience with the cultivars. They have a helluva library

Idlewilder said:

I 100% agree that grower and environment influence a cultivar’s characteristics. I guess I should’ve clarified that their pics do not look like Chem91 and Chem D when I’ve grown the clones in my environment, and do not closely resemble pics that other growers have posted. Chile Verde looks like the cut I grow. Chimera looks like the cut I grow. I didn’t make it past the fourth page so I don’t know what else they have.
In todays canna-society, visual appearance carries more weight than almost anything else, with the exception being thc%. As growers, we know the truth…but a lot of custies focus on look and %. I was just stating my opinion from first hand experience with the cultivars. They have a helluva library

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Agreed bro, love ya to the core and I wasn’t debating with ya just giving that input cause for so many times people I have seen online and locally have legit cuts but their growing sucks and that’s what also makes it look bad or bad results. sooo many good keeper clones are not that popular cause of that and you’ll even see people use those old schoolers and just not name it that on their menu cause it def will sell better to be not labeled as that cause of people making a bad example of it previous purchase.

just saying, I’ve bought soo many clones or seeds and yes they looked awesome on their pics or in their grow but sometimes it’s a specific style or ppfd/nutes and inputs that made that grower win or lose fosure. I mean woild u grow pure cherry pie or ogkb ? soo many yes I love the smoke but man they are finicky and also hermie prone cause of that but reason they stayed around is because costumers loved it it wasn’t the grower who did. shoot cherry pie was so popular like GSC and many that if it didn’t have seeds in the buds it was a fake , cause it was so hermie prone . Or look at zittlez - it’s just plain hard to grow and that’s why soo many batches suck but when u do correctly omg it’s bomb or have crosses with it. It’s not eye candy but it’s such good flavor it still wins

BH said:

Agreed bro, love ya to the core and I wasn’t debating with ya just giving that input cause for so many times people I have seen online and locally have legit cuts but their growing sucks and that’s what also makes it look bad or bad results. sooo many good keeper clones are not that popular cause of that and you’ll even see people use those old schoolers and just not name it that on their menu cause it def will sell better to be not labeled as that cause of people making a bad example of it previous purchase.

just saying, I’ve bought soo many clones or seeds and yes they looked awesome on their pics or in their grow but sometimes it’s a specific style or ppfd/nutes and inputs that made that grower win or lose fosure. I mean woild u grow pure cherry pie or ogkb ? soo many yes I love the smoke but man they are finicky and also hermie prone cause of that but reason they stayed around is because costumers loved it it wasn’t the grower who did. shoot cherry pie was so popular like GSC and many that if it didn’t have seeds in the buds it was a fake , cause it was so hermie prone . Or look at zittlez - it’s just plain hard to grow and that’s why soo many batches suck but when u do correctly omg it’s bomb or have crosses with it. It’s not eye candy but it’s such good flavor it still wins

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I knew where you were coming from and completely agree. Blanket statements like I made, shouldn’t be made. I’m glad you called me out on it.
I can only imagine the amount of absolute fire that’s been lost because it wasn’t grown properly.
I’ve also found that it takes a couple rounds for a cut to get acclimated to a grower’s environment and for the grower to learn what the cut likes. I feel that too many growers move on after the first run because the cut didn’t produce in some aspect that the grower expected.

Look , I'm gonna screw it up , but Im wanting to screw up the real chem D cut and not a fake one 😆

Psychobilly said:

The guy Chemdog, has a dispensary in Massachusetts where you can buy cuts of Chem D. It's one I would love to have too so I checked it out.

There's a dispensary here that has a license to sell his stuff too but they only had Chemdog 4 when I checked.

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Probably the better cut to be honest bro

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Cutting (all 4 each) look great! 👍 you can def tell they have some super healthy moms and its prime cuts.

Made a tag for each clone and taped it on party cup. They will soak in the r/o water with SABF for 24 hrs under misted dome (50% of hole of dome open) . before cuttint put into cup I dunk into r/o water with SABF for 15-30 seconds . Key is to give their moisture back and let them recover . No leds on for their zones till 48hr and set to lowest dim.”

HBZ said:

Probably the better cut to be honest bro

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maybe but..
Why ? Just because someone can say they were the founder/discovery owner of a cut doesn’t cement it and tbh i don’t believe that dude even is the orginal holder of it anyways and if anything u see way too many people with mix stories and what not. Even if it’s him who originally had it it’s def not only his stock anymore . If he wanted that then don’t sell clones and also sooo many breeders have had it to use in their gear so I really doubt he had it only to him till now?

if anyone can go and get this cut from that person (chem) and majority are Inless they got a legit cut already , if they are on their sop of cloning and testing them in garden of virus/pest and healthy status plants I’m all down . Honestly that’s a cut I know that’s def easy and confirmed u can get cheaper than the dude who wants to claim it’s “exclusive“ . it would be like me buying any direct breeder or owner of cut and than saying the exact clone but if I was selling it isn’t as good as the person I got from even if same health ? it’s like so many stories breeders or cuts being held with ”rules” of no sales or giving it to others, yeah that works lolz 😂

BH said:

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THE CLONE BANK
Delivered using 1 day express and shipped within 24hr of purchase!

Cutting (all 4 each) look great! 👍 you fan def tell they have some super healthy moms and its prime cuts.

Made a tag for each clone and taped it on party cup. They will soak in the r/o water with SABF for 24 hrs under misted dome (50% of hole of dome open) . before cuttint put into cup I dunk into r/o water with SABF for 15-30 seconds . Key is to give their moisture back and let them recover . No leds on for their zones till 48hr and set to lowest dim.”



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maybe but..
Why ? Just because someone can say they were the founder of a u doesn’t cement it and tbh i don’t believe that dude even is the orginal holder of it anyways and if anything u see way too many people with mix stories and what not. Even if it’s him who originally had it it’s def not only his stock anymore . If he wanted that then don’t sell clones and also sooo many breeders have had it to use in their gear so I really doubt he had it only to him till now?

if anyone can go and get this cut from that person (chem) and majority are Inless they got a legit cut already , if they are on their sop of cloning and testing them in garden of virus/pest and healthy status plants I’m all down . Honestly that’s a cut I know that’s def easy and confirmed u can get cheaper than the dude who wants to claim it’s “exclusive“ . it would be like me buying any direct breeder or owner of cut and than saying the exact perclone but if I was selling it isn’t as good as the person I got from even if same health ? it’s like so many stories breeders or cuts being held with ”rules” of no sales or giving it to others, yeah that works lolz 😂

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Definitely agree with all that..Was basically saying the Chem 4 is better than the Chem D...But even that is subjective...4 is typically a easier grow with a better yield when compared to the D..

Sabf? I haven't taken in a clone in many years in fear of getting some nasty bugs or something again...is that a dunk to clean the clone of anything on it? Would love to know the proper way to handle a clone coming in..

Akss said:

Sabf? I haven't taken in a clone in many years in fear of getting some nasty bugs or something again...is that a dunk to clean the clone of anything on it? Would love to know the proper way to handle a clone coming in..

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SABF = Southern AG Biological Fungicide

it’s a species of bacteria that will defend from many soil/hydro/root issues/molds and for foliar ( like when I’m dunking) for defense of foliage based molds and plants surface to be clean via the bennie dominates . I use as a drench in my rez whole cycle and make sure to apply as a defense mode in seed-clones (i even apply stronger dosage then) . It’s safe via drench and foliar to day of harvest

when tested on seeds and clones, I will use SABF in water cup for seeds or clips or even when I soak my root riot with SABF in the water. This main defense for medium based exp in start is against wilt and misc root molds.

the pro of SABF over cannabis branded versions of same species is its 98% concentration vs way lower % and way more cost % . a good example of cannabis brand is hydroguard and a foliar version and same species is cease . way over priced and no way big ag would ever use em! Def reason why they don’t sell SABF at hydrostore cause SABF is like 500x stronger than hydroguard .

for drench , when adding to rez normal rate = 1-2ml per 10gal aka water rez, reapply to rez if not empty every 3-7 days

foliar : 5-15ml per gal , 15ml is for high risk/already infected rate, I apply at 10-15ml when it’s outdoors and end of season , it made me pm free and lowered septoria & budrot that’s fosure. For even just that it’s a worthy tool in my sop

clones/seedlings, I apply 1/2-1ml per gal , this extra concentration is just because I’ve had seeds die or clippings but once I started doing this my clone % is higher than when I was doing sterile methods and seedlings never wilt or die like I used to. it’s really a great tool whole cycle and exp when these plants are vulnerable to wilt and similiar diseases at that stage. once I see roots I apply SABF with mykos/bennies/fungi & regalia for sar. If curious pm me and/or check my journal and I explain my weekly rez and foliar ipm to misc things like cloning/seedlings.

SABF is very cost effective and I can’t see myself not using it, I def would for cost stop doing other things firdt before SABF cause it def shows by % and how plants overall health of the extra care and adding certain species.



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as a IPM before bringing in plants I also scope under a 100x-1kx scope via usb and see if I can scope any known pest/issues. I checked 5+ pheno’s of this batch and all showed Clean

Right on man👍 thanks for taking the time..

sleazyB said:

Look , I'm gonna screw it up , but Im wanting to screw up the real chem D cut and not a fake one 😆

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LOL I like that

HBZ said:

Probably the better cut to be honest bro

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It's honestly hard for me to pick between them, and I'm not sure I'd be able to choose just one haha. I've liked them all that I've tried a lot.

BH said:

if anyone can go and get this cut from that person (chem) and majority are Inless they got a legit cut already , if they are on their sop of cloning and testing them in garden of virus/pest and healthy status plants I’m all down . Honestly that’s a cut I know that’s def easy and confirmed u can get cheaper than the dude who wants to claim it’s “exclusive“ . it would be like me buying any direct breeder or owner of cut and than saying the exact clone but if I was selling it isn’t as good as the person I got from even if same health ? it’s like so many stories breeders or cuts being held with ”rules” of no sales or giving it to others, yeah that works lolz 😂

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I can't seem to remember the name of the dispensary in Massachusetts right now, but when I first read about this, my initial thought was "Well there's something I'll never be able to afford", and then to my utter shock, the guy Chemdog was selling cuts of Chem D in the dispensary in his home state for $35.00. I'll be honest here, that seems like a pretty sweet deal on something like that. I've thought about nagging the one here that's licensed by him to sell his stuff into getting a cut too, but when I talked to the guy in charge, he said they currently were only running the Chemdog 4, which, I did finally grow a BX of that this season, and it IS a nice one that I'm waiting to cure for some sampling.

HBZ said:

Definitely agree with all that..Was basically saying the Chem 4 is better than the Chem D...But even that is subjective...4 is typically a easier grow with a better yield when compared to the D..

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So far my experience has been both of them throwing the nugs. I do notice differences for sure, but, I'll know more once I've had a chance to sample them. This season is the first one in a while where I didn't run Chem D. I started thinking I'd regret that decision, but I've got a few pounds of Chem D stashed away for emergencies, LOL. I'm waiting on that Chemdog 4 to cure so I can give that a go finally, and it is NOT easy... That smell... SO glad I dusted that seedling... LOL. I'm thinking of naming that "Gas Station Cheese" haha.

By the way, while we're on this subject.... Anyone grown out a good Sour Diesel before ? I don't have experience with that one, but I've heard that the sour level in it, is pretty nice, and with Cheetos, that sour comes through nicely with the Cheese sour already there. Strange Caramel flavor in the middle of the smoke, but I can tell there's Chem in it from that weird Lemon / Pine that's up front before the Cheese side takes over.

Well @BH you were 3 orders ahead of me and I haven't even got a tracking number yet 🤷. You must be neighbors to him lol. Good to see all your cuts look good though 👍, that's a plus.