Issues dammit

[Gweedo's Growroom]

Started having this issue about three days ago,clawing downward, general droopyness and pretty lime green growth, only going on with the plemon ladies, looks like overwatering and nit deficiency, but I'm no expert, anybody wanna venture a guess, ppms are 850 Jack's 321 light is 18 inches off the canopy, and I'm in hempy buckets being bottom watered every other day for 5 mins to cycle out the bottom of the buckets with fresh nute solution. Gonna flush from the top today with fresh feed at half strength and see what happens

 

[Jewels]

Dunno dude. Can you confirm that the ( high ) water-line has not come up ?

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

Definitely not

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

Tops are pretty much dry in the buckets, the medium drains awesome, it's the plemons mainly the PCK doesnt seem effected, they haven't been right since I pruned and defoliated them, it's also been pretty cool at lights out right around 65

 

[BH]

Did you reuse soil/medium? Fresh ? if fresh did you let the bags or w/e you bought them be “room temp”. second would be I would check your ph probe with 4.0 and 7.0 to see if it’s accurate . Than if you did “reuse” the soil, sometimes if you aren’t using organics or even so, you could have spikes of higher nutes or metals than the plant wants . hints why if synthetic that’s why they suggest flush at end of cycle of the grow vs if you were doing super soils. do you have a thermometer or a temp/humidty + probe or a environmental cotroller like pulse and have it above your canopy vs the grow rooms temps/humidity ? Those factors can show you why things can be out of whack like vpd or rollercoaster temps or humidity is too low or too high for veg stage . In veg you want it at around 65-75% humidty and in flower if you grow above 78f + you follow Co2 ppm at 900-1500 gradually and your nutes will be if not the same as your Co2 ppm, they intake as much as your Co2 gives the plants ( hints why if your plants actually intaking . more Co2 like 1200-1500k it can do the higher ppm, depending on strain ). Your temps should always be mapped to the q0 degree from when the peak or general temp of the on cycle of your room ( like my in cycle is 80-86, so I want my off cycle to be 70-76f). there’s many factors but I got ya started

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

@Burned Haze its fresh medium, new plants, new system, and not one like people normally run so I'm writing the manual as I go lol definitely having a big ass temp swing, I'll alleviate that with my big oil heater, and I'm running my canopy temp between 76 and 80 leaf temps run avg about 75 haven't checked leaf temps in about a week(can't find my dam ir thermometer) and humidity stays around 60 at all times, the lights on conditions are stable just getting that temp drop at night, humidity stays constant, I'm controlling it and the temps with inkbirds, gonna flush and see what the runoff is, and re feed and recharge accordingly, and thank you very much for your time and input sir

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

So just flushed both plemons with about 2 gallons each, this was my input and outputs for both of the plemons

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

 

[BH]

I think it’s your temps, is your humidty corrects? 70% Rh in veg stage , follow vpd ifnot was me in flower stage

10 degrees in between on and off.

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

70 is hard till I get a bigger humidifier, heading to town tomorrow I'll see what the box stores have if not, good ole Amazon's always got my back lol

 

[BH]

This one is a great humidifier if you aren’t commerical and it has humistat built in. If you look at 1000 square feet suggested npn a/c = this one is always in top 5. very good for its cash and so many brands will kill you on the filters

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[Gentlemancorpse]

I was also gonna say temps... I'm assuming LEDs? What are your temps during lights on?

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

80 max

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

Gonna just grab a 6liter humidifier with the heating or cooling option and see how it acts, the gals are looking better today, just top watered till a gallon of runoff came out and sprayed em down with some silica

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

Problem I'm having is I need to free up some amperage via switching my lights over to 220v, the big oil heater I have pulls 11 amps lol has me on the edges of safe, hopefully the warming effect of the dehueuy is enough to keep me good at night, the one I have now is only 2 l doesnt last very long, hoping to kill 2 birds wit and one stone, if not I'll just re do my sub panel accordingly and get a proper size heater in there

 

[BH]

if this grow isn’t your house , meaning like a shed, storage bin or external garage , anything not connected to your house mainly. You could run Co2 burners to convert to Co2 plus it would be a natural heater ( won’t run when the lights on but if you can get your room to 78-86f i bet you can run without a heater Inless your in a very cold nd not insulated area. most people even in larger rooms need to run a/c after running a propane/natural gas Co2 burner cause it’s gonna bring your heat up fosure. Solution is duct in cold air from outdoors or even a “lung room” and have the in-line fan connected to a temp controller and only have it turn on when you get to your max temps.

if you only grow in winter you def can use it for it’s advantages, plus my area they def charge more for the hotter season by rate and have more strict hours vs winter/fall where charges are same everyday/every hour and cheaper No matter what.

ive Seen guys use propane/natural gas burners in their house but I‘d rather be safe than sorry on that one. Everyone has different views so that’s on you if you wanted to go Co2 burner.

 

[Frimpong]

if this grow isn’t your house , meaning like a shed, storage bin or external garage , anything not connected to your house mainly. You could run Co2 burners to convert to Co2 plus it would be a natural heater ( won’t run when the lights on but if you can get your room to 78-86f i bet you can run without a heater Inless your in a very cold nd not insulated area. most people even in larger rooms need to run a/c after running a propane/natural gas Co2 burner cause it’s gonna bring your heat up fosure. Solution is duct in cold air from outdoors or even a “lung room” and have the in-line fan connected to a temp controller and only have it turn on when you get to your max temps.

if you only grow in winter you def can use it for it’s advantages, plus my area they def charge more for the hotter season by rate and have more strict hours vs winter/fall where charges are same everyday/every hour and cheaper No matter what.

ive Seen guys use propane/natural gas burners in their house but I‘d rather be safe than sorry on that one. Everyone has different views so that’s on you if you wanted to go Co2 burner.

Brilliant

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

Just now getting back to this one guys, the room is a spare bedroom in my house 11x11x8, since runnin the oil heater the swing is right at about10 degrees now 66 for the low and 78 for the high yesterday, outside it's been about 30f for the last few days, humidity has been steady at 60-63, the air outside is straight up arid lol. since last time I've been top watering them every other day at 850ppm ph 6.0, I'm starting to think I may have killed off some roots while bottom watering them, the system wasn't wicking as well as I'd planned, hence the weird symptoms I'm guessing. Is it possible for part of the plant to get water and others not if the medium dries hard up top but not down low???or would it be 2 totally different ph s in the dry and wet zones??? Shits got me stumped for sure??? first time I've ever had an issue this long, okay books over picture time
Also noticed these tiny braille like bumps on the leaves of that plant, and only that plant they are like tiny braille dots on the bottom with a depression on the other side of the leaf, no bugs via scope check, and I couldn't find anything like it on the web, I'll try and get a scope pic up later today and then there is the ripple texture leaves it's also the only plant doing that as well, all things equal, hate to sound so noobish but I'm truly at a loss

 

[Bubby's n da lab]

Just now getting back to this one guys, the room is a spare bedroom in my house 11x11x8, since runnin the oil heater the swing is right at about10 degrees now 66 for the low and 78 for the high yesterday, outside it's been about 30f for the last few days, humidity has been steady at 60-63, the air outside is straight up arid lol. since last time I've been top watering them every other day at 850ppm ph 6.0, I'm starting to think I may have killed off some roots while bottom watering them, the system wasn't wicking as well as I'd planned, hence the weird symptoms I'm guessing. Is it possible for part of the plant to get water and others not if the medium dries hard up top but not down low???or would it be 2 totally different ph s in the dry and wet zones??? Shits got me stumped for sure??? first time I've ever had an issue this long, okay books over picture timeView attachment 43259View attachment 43260View attachment 43261View attachment 43262View attachment 43263View attachment 43264
Also noticed these tiny braille like bumps on the leaves of that plant, and only that plant they are like tiny braille dots on the bottom with a depression on the other side of the leaf, no bugs via scope check, and I couldn't find anything like it on the web, I'll try and get a scope pic up later today and then there is the ripple texture leaves it's also the only plant doing that as well, all things equal, hate to sound so noobish but I'm truly at a loss

well water or city?

 

[Gweedo's Growroom]

Its city water comes out at 110ppm and ph 7.4, I treat it with hydro guard before I mix my nutes