Out in the Shed - Spring 2023

JL2G

Jesse Loves 2 Grow
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Sent inquiry to Marone/Profarm the makers of Grandevo, Regalia and Vinerate and one to Certis Bio (new company for distributing botanigard) asking about compatibility with electrostatic sprayers, they aren't compatible with thermal foggers.
I know we'd chatted a bit about that the other day, but what was their reasoning for the incompatibility using those products again?
Think you'd said ultrasonic wouldn't work with that stuff either.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
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I know we'd chatted a bit about that the other day, but what was their reasoning for the incompatibility using those products again?
Think you'd said ultrasonic wouldn't work with that stuff either.
The heat degrades them, not positive on an ultrasonic one but I know when I was messing with them for a humidifier they would get pretty warm. PCxHS7.jpg
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Frosty78

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Sent inquiry to Marone/Profarm the makers of Grandevo, Regalia and Vinerate and one to Certis Bio (new company for distributing botanigard) asking about compatibility with electrostatic sprayers, they aren't compatible with thermal foggers.
You're kidding me? Something that's been in agriculture for decades in fields/paddocks etc in hail rain or shine won't work because heat degrades it? I'm staggered. Not having a crack at you, just the response from them.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
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You're kidding me? Something that's been in agriculture for decades in fields/paddocks etc in hail rain or shine won't work because heat degrades it? I'm staggered. Not having a crack at you, just the response from them.
I thought thermal forgers were strictly limited to horticultural oils?
I searched their website briefly and see no mention of electrostatic application, these aren't products that have been established in traditional ag, I belive grandevo came out in 2013?? I know I emailed companies about thermal fogers and hit a "no go" somewhere along the way with the products I use. No cracks to be taken.

Reply from Certis-
Thank you for reaching out to Certis’ customer service and for your support with the purchase of BotaniGard 22WP. You asked about the use or compatibility of BotaniGard 22WP in an electrostatic sprayer. The BotaniGard product line is compatible with all ground application equipment (i.e., hydraulic, cold foggers, electrostatic).
 

Frosty78

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Electromiser trailed units from silvan pumps and sprayers here in Oz have been around since late 80,s maybe early 90,s. I certainly recall them in mid 90,s in full production . These were widespread use here, particularly in vineyard usage. I can't see why the theory wouldn't work on a smaller scale on say a knapsack sprayer. I see Petra has a handheld electromizer sprayer there now.

The premise is they can charge the particles so it sticks better to plants, vines, orchards etc

Are they saying their product will ruin its make up if it's positively charged? Temp range would be negligible.

Maybe it's cause it's 330 am here and I've been up with a crook kid. Maybe I need coffee. Maybe I need my head read (quite possible, many mates think im crazy)

Any particle size whether it be fogger, sprayer, broad acre sprayer etc has the ability to be electically charged.
That means less product through wastage.
Surely oils, foliar fertigation, etc are all in that realm. I thought a bloke as well versed with electrical work (I saw your light fabrication work) would be able to jerry rig a handheld sprayer to positively charge it on the cheap instead of paying a couple of hundred for those fellas to fix their dodgy switch. Tight arse aussie macgyver over here thinks you can do it mate.
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
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Maybe it's cause it's 330 am
Possibly.
Maybe it's cause it's 330 am here and I've been up with a crook kid.
More likely.
Maybe it's cause it's 330 am here and I've been up with a crook kid. Maybe I need coffee. Maybe I need my head read (quite possible, many mates think im crazy)
Definitely, but I think we have a language barrier too ?

I thought a bloke as well versed with electrical work (I saw your light fabrication work) would be able to jerry rig a handheld sprayer
I think I'd look at powder coating equipment.

Are they saying their product will ruin its make up if it's positively charged? Temp range would be negligible.
Not gotten any feed back yet indicating electrostatic sprayers are incompatible with anything and so far as foggers I was unaware that there is a low temperature fogger, I thought they all heated the product.

Still waiting for response from Marone/Profarm.
 

Frosty78

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I reckon you'll be fine.
Possibly.

More likely.

Definitely, but I think we have a language barrier too ?


I think I'd look at powder coating equipment.


Not gotten any feed back yet indicating electrostatic sprayers are incompatible with anything and so far as foggers I was unaware that there is a low temperature fogger, I thought they all heated the product.

Still waiting for response from Marone/Profarm.
 

Frosty78

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The picture I draw says pedophile.

Before I forget GCTC chopped yesterday at 55 days. Trim took about 15 min can't say what I think it smells like or I'll have a visitor from MI.
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You're Jason Stratham (turkish) trying to understand me as Brad Pitt (mickey) in the scene. That is how I think our conversations come across big fella
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Trim took about 15 min can't say what I think it smells like or I'll have a visitor from MI.

Hey! I'm a fucking treasure to hang out and smoke with! LOL.

100%
Watched it 4 or 5 times, got about 50%, went to Wikipedia and I'm up to 90% or so, I know he wants sequins on the pillows. WTF is he saying like the last three seconds?

As a partially Irish man, I think you guys are probably just too sober to understand that accent. I don't speak Welsh for example, but a few pints and I'd probably get by with proper gestures and pointing LOL :)
 

Frosty78

Habitabat autem somnium
I was in Ireland about 20 years ago and missed my connecting bus. So I was dropped off in Tipperary by the bus driver. Rang bus company about the connecting bus and they confirmed last one had already gone through. I had to get to cashel to go see the castle there the next day. They suggested hitch hiking, as did the hostel I was staying at that night. I suggested I wouldn't stop to pick me up so I've got no hope of anyone else. I tried about a k outside town limits. Hoofed it back after giving it an hour. Asked a local where the nearest pub was. I was going to cop the 60 euro cab charge up there as I was keen as to spend the day around cashel seeing the ruins. He pointed me where it was. About qtr mile in your language on my side of street.

So I hoofed it down and walked into the little local pub. Joint goes silent when I walk in. 4 young blokes at bar watching soccer(football over there) and and old couple in their late 60,s min. Bar goes silent, I walked to the publican and spew forth, pint of guineas please mate.
Place picked up and they start back with footy etc. Publican was obviously related to mickey from snatch because his vernacular was faster.

Excuse me mate, can you call me a cab for an hours time.

No worries pal, where you headed?

Cashel

When you want to head up there.

An hour or so mate, as long as I get there before they close I'm tip top mate.

If you can wait an till 730 I finish my shift and I'll run ya up there.

Fuck mate you serious

Yeas mate no worries, Mrs is picking me up and we are going past there on our way out for the night.

Bloody legend

Luckily my scottish ancestry gave me pikey speech skills that I can pick it up pretty quickly.

Old mate dropped me off wouldn't take a cent from me and said welcome to Ireland when in Oz if an Irishman needs a lift or a hand pay it forward...that debt was settled 10 years later.

I know you guys struggle with the speed of aussie speech. I was in la on same trip and merely replying to a female that said good afternoon while I was in Hermosa or Redondo beach I replied it's pretty warm outside isn't it. I repeated it several times till I slowed it down to single words slowly.
It's all good though mate because.....

and never sweat it because

I enjoy the banter and chewing the fat with ya mate.
how did you go with your homework. Get the rest of it
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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Old mate dropped me off wouldn't take a cent from me and said welcome to Ireland when in Oz if an Irishman needs a lift or a hand pay it forward...that debt was settled 10 years later.
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I love stories like this.
 
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