Russet/Broad Mites & Cyclamen Mites INFO & IPM

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DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
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6. IPM Foliar protocol ( any order , key is knowing what product can be used in flower and be mixed together
A specific example of this plays out in your scenario

"Compatibility: PFR-97™ can be used in conjunction with most other pesticides and is compatible with beneficial arthropods. It can be mixed with copper-based fungicides without impacting performance. However, do not mix with other fungicides, or apply within 5 days of fungicide applications other than copper. PFR-97™ can be mixed with most insecticides for which such mixing is permitted by the label, in accordance with the most restrictive label limitations and precautions of all products used in the mixture. Do not exceed any label dosage rates. However, physical compatibility should be checked by mixing small quantities of each tank mix partner in correct proportions (“jar test”) prior to the first time such a mixture is attempted"

Notice where the application of sulfur falls with respect to PFR97, Botanigard has a similar limitation. Improper application would not only be expensive but counter productive.
 

DopeDaniel

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spinosad like many has a stated ph need and unlike many it wants to be set at 5.5-5.8 ph.

I can't find info supporting a tank pH of less than 6 can you provide link to resource?

I don't disagree with anything @BH has said but all of his strategies may not be practical for everyone. Point is to have consistency in how you operate. If its not practical for you to take a shower every time you enter your grow, start with washing your hands.

I will be doing a sulfur burn in a few days. This is also not practical for everyone, particularly those whose grow area is shared with their living space. This is something that is not reactive but preventative so pest ID is kinda a mute point.

If you don't have a way to automate the burn and venting, this process is not for you.

If you don't have minimal proper ppe (full face respirator with appropriate cartridges) this process is not for you.

There are many other aspects to this but I will leave it to you to do your own due diligence here.

You are creating a micronized vapor that permeates all areas, cracks and crevices.

4hrs max length of burn, I trend towards 1.5 hrs for my 96 sq. ft. area.

Use a burner designed to maintain the appropriate temperature.

Use enough sulfur so it doesn't run out during the burn.

Perform during dark cycle several hours before lights on so you can let tratment sit for a few hours before venting. For my system it takes over an hour to ventilate.

This set of instructions is certainly incomplete and only a portion of the SOP.
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
I can't find info supporting a tank pH of less than 6 can you provide link to resource?

I don't disagree with anything @BH has said but all of his strategies may not be practical for everyone. Point is to have consistency in how you operate. If its not practical for you to take a shower every time you enter your grow, start with washing your hands.

I will be doing a sulfur burn in a few days. This is also not practical for everyone, particularly those whose grow area is shared with their living space. This is something that is not reactive but preventative so pest ID is kinda a mute point.

If you don't have a way to automate the burn and venting, this process is not for you.

If you don't have minimal proper ppe (full face respirator with appropriate cartridges) this process is not for you.

There are many other aspects to this but I will leave it to you to do your own due diligence here.

You are creating a micronized vapor that permeates all areas, cracks and crevices.

4hrs max length of burn, I trend towards 1.5 hrs for my 96 sq. ft. area.

Use a burner designed to maintain the appropriate temperature.

Use enough sulfur so it doesn't run out during the burn.

Perform during dark cycle several hours before lights on so you can let tratment sit for a few hours before venting. For my system it takes over an hour to ventilate.

This set of instructions is certainly incomplete and only a portion of the SOP.
I looked all over the label and cant find that, it says 6-9 ph

Not sure where i got that info and thab wrote it on the bottle.



Will edit thread in future . Sorry
 
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DopeDaniel

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The amount of critical shit @BH covered in the span of just a couple hours last night cannot possibly be captured by one go through.

I my effort to comply the stated useage amounts for spinosad I make every effort to do no more than 2 foliar applications and one soil application per month. There are times I can avoid the foliar but skipping the soil application has proven detrimental.
 

jaguarlax

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The amount of critical shit @BH covered in the span of just a couple hours last night cannot possibly be captured by one go through.

I my effort to comply the stated useage amounts for spinosad I make every effort to do no more than 2 foliar applications and one soil application per month. There are times I can avoid the foliar but skipping the soil application has proven detrimental.
Yea shoutout to @BH for hopping on the new IPM section. Appreciate you mayneeee
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
I can't find info supporting a tank pH of less than 6 can you provide link to resource?

I don't disagree with anything @BH has said but all of his strategies may not be practical for everyone. Point is to have consistency in how you operate. If its not practical for you to take a shower every time you enter your grow, start with washing your hands.

I will be doing a sulfur burn in a few days. This is also not practical for everyone, particularly those whose grow area is shared with their living space. This is something that is not reactive but preventative so pest ID is kinda a mute point.

If you don't have a way to automate the burn and venting, this process is not for you.

If you don't have minimal proper ppe (full face respirator with appropriate cartridges) this process is not for you.

There are many other aspects to this but I will leave it to you to do your own due diligence here.

You are creating a micronized vapor that permeates all areas, cracks and crevices.

4hrs max length of burn, I trend towards 1.5 hrs for my 96 sq. ft. area.

Use a burner designed to maintain the appropriate temperature.

Use enough sulfur so it doesn't run out during the burn.

Perform during dark cycle several hours before lights on so you can let tratment sit for a few hours before venting. For my system it takes over an hour to ventilate.

This set of instructions is certainly incomplete and only a portion of the SOP.
If you are a beardo (facial hair) and don't understand the risk of not geeting a good seal with your respirator this procedure is not for you.

You risk serious physical harm if you do not respect these properties of sulfur.

This is what incorrect use does do cannabis.

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Even if I would have applied at a non damaging rate, the timing was too late and sulfur can adversely impact flavor and product quality.

This morning's application went off without a hitch.
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If anyone has any comments / experiences it would be benificial and appreciated if you share.
 

Drynobbob

In Bloom
I haven’t had any outbreaks, but I been impressed with this product. Organishield. Since I been using it on both indoor and few outdoor last couple of years. Got rid of any spider mite or any bug residue under the scope for me. I got a full bottle of spinosad and pyrethrum and trifecta crop control all unopened. Think I read that bee keepers use it for mites on bees.
 
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