It’s funny you mention ‘clone.’ I thought the same thing a few days ago when I peaked underneath to see what was going on.
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It’s funny you mention ‘clone.’ I thought the same thing a few days ago when I peaked underneath to see what was going on.
@jaguarlax Here's my two Darshan #3 for reference. Day 24. After the week 2 pH snafu, they're starting to pull out with the rest of them.
Darshan #3 - 1 (first leaf set removed)
Darshan #3 - 2 (first and second leaf set removed)
Darshan #3 - 1 (first leaf set removed)
Darshan #3 - 2 (first and second leaf set removed)
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The Short Story:
In short, Darshan is a God O War f1 x Nepal Highland IBL. Its inception was never intended this early on. The numbering of the Darshan's represent the GOW phenotype that was pollinated. Darshan is nothing more than informational gathering at this point. There's a much longer backstory if you're up for a read.
The Long Story:
@jaguarlax don't mind the copy and paste. It made it easier to answer possible questions.
History of Darshan and the Nepalese in my garden; and where we're at today
Late last year I started working on the God O War F2 project. I was narrowing down my top ladies to #3 #4 and #8. All were gorgeous flowers with a nicely balanced hybrid stone that I like. #10 and #11 were visually the heaviest producers, with #11 looking the heaviest. Neither #10 or #11 expressed any color. #7 and #9 weren't going to make it past the second round.
I still needed to find my male. I had chosen two, but I accidentally culled my favorite one. I was planning a round three to look for a male similar to the one I culled. While searching for him, I was going to keep looking through the females to see if there was something even better than my selections. I also wanted to continue growing my initial selections before choosing a final candidate.
While round two of the GOW f2 project is growing, I decided to start my Nepalese project concurrently.
What is the purpose of the Nepalese Project?
I'm trying to recreate the strongest stone I can remember. The effects were more like an acid trip rather than just smoking some weed. You'd be high for 6-8 hours after smoking one blunt. This was pretty typical feedback. No one knew what it was genetically. We didn't even ask those questions back then. Even so, during that time, everything was pretty much called chronic. It was 1995 and '96. That old school, psychedelic effect is what I'm chasing.
Why Nepal Highland?
Without knowing the genetic make-up, I needed to decide my course. The first thing I thought of was, "old school." I remember the transition in time going from brick weed to green bud. It was the prime of White Widow, Northern Lights, etc. Today, there's been 25 years of cross breeding and the genetic roadmap growing far away from its roots. So I knew I wanted to start with a landrace. For me, that feels like a blank canvas and a good starting point.
I understand how we're in the infancy stages of understanding cannabinoid profiles and how they interact with each other. I also believe in my gut that THC-V plays an important part in my quest. So a cultivar known to produce THC-V was another box I wanted checked.
Most of the stronger landraces come from higher altitudes. The Himalayas being one of them. Nepal Highland checked the box of a higher altitude landrace, and is known to produce higher levels of THC-V. It's suppose to produce highly resinous plants with sturdy structure, and a slightly shorter than normal flowering time for a sativa. So I figured it was worth a hunt and a good starting point.
So what traits should you be looking out for?
Shortly after I started the Nepalese seeds, the pandemic happened and the decision was made to shut down completely. I was turning off all of the lights without knowing when I'd turn them back on. So I had to let my entire library go. Keep in mind both my round two GOW f2 project and all of the Nepalese are beginning flower at this point. Thankfully I had already chosen what visually looked like a potential stand out Nepalese male. He hands down had the best, natural structure of any plant I've grown. Aside from that, and a stinkier stem rub, I still don't know much about him at all. Even with such limited information about him, I decided to let him pollinate every plant in the flower room since I was letting them all go due to the unforeseen shut down. It was a Hail Mary attempt to try and preserve those genetics, to some degree, so I could restart my projects in the future. So I hit every Nepalese female, to produce more Nepalese seeds to hunt through later when I decided to restart this project. My GOW F1 girls were in the same room. So they were hit too as innocent by-standers. It also helped in preserving those particular GOW phenotypes I was never afforded the time to get to know and decide on. But I never would have intended for any of the crossbreeding to begin otherwise. BCK, Darkstar, Moontang Mystery, and GOW #'s 3,4,8,7,9,10,11 were all apart of getting some Nepali pollen. That's how they came about.
What do I expect from them?
That's hard to know considering I was never afforded the time with these projects nor were they ever planned at this juncture. The GOW f2 project needs to be started from scratch with all new f1's, and I need to restart a hunt and familiarize myself with the Nepalese first and foremost. These unplanned Nepalese crosses are still in the earliest phases of discovery and quite frankly, they're just seeds at this point to explore if time or desire permits.
I'm not presently taking the Nepalese crosses too seriously, nor do I plan to do anything with them for some time. Unless of course one of them is undeniably a show stopper. I only consider those a glimpse into how the Nepalese might pair over-all regarding plant and flower structure, smell, and possibly effect. More importantly, if similar traits are present amongst the crossbreeds, this could potentially be documented as possible dominant traits passed along from the father. This could give me good intel into the Nepalese hunt since I did a selective pollination with the same father.
So what's the best approach with them?
Informational gathering right now. Any bit of feedback is important. Everything is new and uncharted. So vigor, plant structure, flower structure, ease of grow, any resistances, aromas, flavors, bag appeal, effect, etc.
Lastly
Darshan means "The act of looking. An opportunity or occasion of seeing a holy person or the image of a deity." Hindus attach great importance to a Darshan, or view, of a saint or holy image. I found this to be a very fitting name considering it's a God O War x Nepal Highland IBL.
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Thank you for getting me up to speed. I understand shutting down due to the pandemic except I had way less going than you. I can appreciate what you were/ are looking for with the old school all day high that was close to an acid trip. I as well around the same time frame was able to get ahold of something similar at least by your description that had very similar effects. High all day from a relatively small amount, trippy daze, slow motion almost or I was because leaving a car show riding on the freeway feeling like I was blasting along until looking at the speedo and only going 45, kick ass weed! Again, thank you for getting me up to current and even though you are just observing I feel confident you’re going to find something special.
At first, it was a tough pill to swallow letting everything go. In hindsight, I'm thankful for it. It afforded me time to settle more important personal matters and more importantly in regards to our hobby, it afforded me time for a lot of self reflection. I believe now that I needed that time to take a step back, evaluate where I was heading, and realize how off course I was getting.
Your description has some similarities as well. We'll know we're there when some people start to question if the weed was laced.
Thanks brother, I appreciate that. It's going to be a very long haul and I'll always appreciate any testing support while embarking on the quest. I already feel blessed with these evolving friendships and Merlin may have graced me with an ace to put up my sleeve. I'm excited for what's to come.
I concur. I may only have a small sample size with two #3's going, but I too am pleased so far. I'm still waiting to see how they react once flower is initiated. The structure on that NH male was gorgeous. I'm really interested to see how much influence he had once I start hunting through the NH again.
Strain Name: God O War
Genetics: (Ghost Train Haze #1 x 9lb. Hammer) – Full genealogy found here: God O War (GK Genetics) :: Cannabis Strain Info
Sex: Regular
Type: Hybrid
Yield: Average - Above Average
Flowering Time: 9-10 Weeks
Height: Medium - Tall
Feeding: Average
Training: Highly responsive to different training techniques
Phenotypes: You can expect nice, vigorous growth from this strain. It exhibits long lateral side branching, with open internodal spacing and long reaching petioles. Plants will be medium to tall in height with a higher percentage of taller phenotypes. Structures range from ‘Christmas Tree’ to multiple secondary tops from vigorous lateral side branching; which stretch vertically closer to the main stalk. Flowers will be medium sized, with good trichome development, high calyx to leaf ratio, and have a heavier nose. Purple phenotypes and flowers with larger calyxes will have a heavier 9lb. Hammer influence. Smaller, dense calyxes, wavy leaf tips and blade curl will lean toward their Ghost Train Haze Mom.
Effect: Very Well Balanced Hybrid, Heady, Relaxed Body, Euphoric
Taste/Smell: Sweet, Lemon, Pine, Mint, Bubblegum, and Fuel
Day 46 #3
Day 46 #10
Day 46 #11
Day 48 #8
Day 51 #10
Day 56 #4
Day 56 #8
Day 56 #3
Genetics: (Ghost Train Haze #1 x 9lb. Hammer) – Full genealogy found here: God O War (GK Genetics) :: Cannabis Strain Info
Sex: Regular
Type: Hybrid
Yield: Average - Above Average
Flowering Time: 9-10 Weeks
Height: Medium - Tall
Feeding: Average
Training: Highly responsive to different training techniques
Phenotypes: You can expect nice, vigorous growth from this strain. It exhibits long lateral side branching, with open internodal spacing and long reaching petioles. Plants will be medium to tall in height with a higher percentage of taller phenotypes. Structures range from ‘Christmas Tree’ to multiple secondary tops from vigorous lateral side branching; which stretch vertically closer to the main stalk. Flowers will be medium sized, with good trichome development, high calyx to leaf ratio, and have a heavier nose. Purple phenotypes and flowers with larger calyxes will have a heavier 9lb. Hammer influence. Smaller, dense calyxes, wavy leaf tips and blade curl will lean toward their Ghost Train Haze Mom.
Effect: Very Well Balanced Hybrid, Heady, Relaxed Body, Euphoric
Taste/Smell: Sweet, Lemon, Pine, Mint, Bubblegum, and Fuel
Day 46 #3
Day 46 #10
Day 46 #11
Day 48 #8
Day 51 #10
Day 56 #4
Day 56 #8
Day 56 #3
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Absolutely beautiful ???????
Just a quick update on Darshans. #11’s are exhibiting the most vigor, the #3s are not slacking at all. I decided to go ahead and top and strip the smallest #11 just to see how she would react. Getting a bit bushy but side branching is worth keeping around imo. I’m eager to see how the topped one comes back.
My fav #3
My fav #3
Looking great Jag!
+1 I was planning all natural with this grow. I still am with some, but I also decided to strip a few, and top others.
The side views you posted are exactly what I was looking for from the male I used. It'll be interesting to see how common that structure translates across the phenotypes and the other crossbreeds. He was short and stout. He had perfectly symmetrical side branching from top to bottom. I actually thought he was going to be a stand out female in veg until flower revealed he was a boy. I was shocked it ended up being a male. It was the shortest plant of the bunch. But not a runt by any stretch. He produced copious amounts of pollen and had one of the stronger smelling stem rubs.
I guess it’s relevant to share the lone Spyralout I have..: that’s the BCK Phylex Cut x Nepal Highland Ya? I dropped 3 but only 1germed right away, the other two were slow and I forgot about them ?. I wasn’t able to salvage them by the time I caught it.. Anywho this lil lady was topped just a few days ago. She didn’t mind at all.
PS: Maybe one of those white boards like what I saw in your thread, would be helpful.
PS: Maybe one of those white boards like what I saw in your thread, would be helpful.
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I love the branching on that Darshan#11. That structure would translate nicely to stout outdoor bushes. She looks amazing, and i have no doubt potent, given her lineage. I can't wait to see the finish and smoke report on her, jag.
looking like I will start flipping to flower at the end of this coming week. 7 more days in veg seems appropriate. My guess is she will be about 12-16 inches by then.
Strain: Darshan #3 (God O War #3 f1 x Nepal Highland IBL)
Both parents had respectable structure and vigor between them. But the NH Male selected had impeccable structure. Ultimately, I wasn’t afforded much time with this strain. We’re basically looking at it together. NH should present an aroma ranging from Floral, Citrus, and Sweet-Creams. It’s reported effects are Strong High, Uplifting, Corporal, and Full Body effect. GOW’s bouquet has been Sweet, Lemon, Pine, Mint, Bubblegum, and Fuel, while producing a Heady, Relaxed Body, and Euphoric effect. The majority of GOW f1 phenotypes have been a very well-balanced hybrid. I’m interested in experiencing the effects from these two after being combined.
Mother: God O War #3. #3 was my front running selection of the GOW f1 females. While most things being equal between GOW #3 #4 and #8, #3 also had a semi-gloss sheen on her leaves. This leads me to believe she might offer some level of protection against pests and or molds. (It’s merely a theory and has not been tested.)
Father: Nepal Highland IBL. This particular male was shorter amongst most of the other phenotypes. It had strong branching that looked equally uniform from top to bottom. Its structure was impeccable. It had a nice strong stem rub and produced copious amounts of pollen and seeds.
Purpose: These seeds weren’t a planned project. But I can use this time as a learning experience and get to know the NH a little better. I’m sure there’s going to be findings that will carry over and provide helpful information when hunting through the Nepal Highland again. Any information to help narrow down a search is useful.
Both parents had respectable structure and vigor between them. But the NH Male selected had impeccable structure. Ultimately, I wasn’t afforded much time with this strain. We’re basically looking at it together. NH should present an aroma ranging from Floral, Citrus, and Sweet-Creams. It’s reported effects are Strong High, Uplifting, Corporal, and Full Body effect. GOW’s bouquet has been Sweet, Lemon, Pine, Mint, Bubblegum, and Fuel, while producing a Heady, Relaxed Body, and Euphoric effect. The majority of GOW f1 phenotypes have been a very well-balanced hybrid. I’m interested in experiencing the effects from these two after being combined.
Mother: God O War #3. #3 was my front running selection of the GOW f1 females. While most things being equal between GOW #3 #4 and #8, #3 also had a semi-gloss sheen on her leaves. This leads me to believe she might offer some level of protection against pests and or molds. (It’s merely a theory and has not been tested.)
Father: Nepal Highland IBL. This particular male was shorter amongst most of the other phenotypes. It had strong branching that looked equally uniform from top to bottom. Its structure was impeccable. It had a nice strong stem rub and produced copious amounts of pollen and seeds.
Purpose: These seeds weren’t a planned project. But I can use this time as a learning experience and get to know the NH a little better. I’m sure there’s going to be findings that will carry over and provide helpful information when hunting through the Nepal Highland again. Any information to help narrow down a search is useful.
Day 36 from seed
So far, I’m very pleased with their structure after observing mine and seeing Jags. #2 is beginning to make 11 blade leaves and looking a little better than #1. It’ll be interesting to see them both through flower. Anything can change.
3th row from left, #1 starts at bottom, only first two plants
So far, I’m very pleased with their structure after observing mine and seeing Jags. #2 is beginning to make 11 blade leaves and looking a little better than #1. It’ll be interesting to see them both through flower. Anything can change.
3th row from left, #1 starts at bottom, only first two plants
Strain: Terpenado Mystery f1 x Pandemic f1
The thought here was dense, gooey TM flowers with Pandemic’s beautiful coloring and rich terpenes. The TM smelled of Peanut Shell with a slight citrus and produced a mellowing, happy effect. Pandemic’s bouquet has been Sweet, Candied, Berries, Fruit, and Floral with a heavier Indica leaning effect. I’m more intrigued by the potential aroma, bag appeal, and effect from these two after being combined.
Mother: Terpenado Mystery is the result of an accidental open pollination. The seeds were gifted to me by a fellow grower on IG. It’s unclear if the male donor was another Terpenado Male or (Goji OG x Sunshine Daydream) Male. Both males released pollen before they were pulled out of the tent.
Father: Pandemic was an f1 project that was made using my Gelat.OG Mother and a Hyper Alien male. This project was originally delayed during testing, and now ultimately abandoned. Pandemic has never exhibited any intersex issues, but is still a part of the same lot and should be watched closely. I selected an impressive looking male during testing and stashed away some pollen. Pandemic is loud with fruity, sweet-candied terpenes and rich color. Of all the abandoned projects in this lot, Pandemic would be one of the first ones I’d revisit and work with.
Purpose: These seeds weren’t a planned project. They were created from a personal side chuck spawned by my own curiosity at the time. I wanted to see if the Pandemic male would pass along Pandemic’s incredible terpenes and color to the TM female. I expect the effects to be blissful.
The thought here was dense, gooey TM flowers with Pandemic’s beautiful coloring and rich terpenes. The TM smelled of Peanut Shell with a slight citrus and produced a mellowing, happy effect. Pandemic’s bouquet has been Sweet, Candied, Berries, Fruit, and Floral with a heavier Indica leaning effect. I’m more intrigued by the potential aroma, bag appeal, and effect from these two after being combined.
Mother: Terpenado Mystery is the result of an accidental open pollination. The seeds were gifted to me by a fellow grower on IG. It’s unclear if the male donor was another Terpenado Male or (Goji OG x Sunshine Daydream) Male. Both males released pollen before they were pulled out of the tent.
Father: Pandemic was an f1 project that was made using my Gelat.OG Mother and a Hyper Alien male. This project was originally delayed during testing, and now ultimately abandoned. Pandemic has never exhibited any intersex issues, but is still a part of the same lot and should be watched closely. I selected an impressive looking male during testing and stashed away some pollen. Pandemic is loud with fruity, sweet-candied terpenes and rich color. Of all the abandoned projects in this lot, Pandemic would be one of the first ones I’d revisit and work with.
Purpose: These seeds weren’t a planned project. They were created from a personal side chuck spawned by my own curiosity at the time. I wanted to see if the Pandemic male would pass along Pandemic’s incredible terpenes and color to the TM female. I expect the effects to be blissful.
Day 36 from seed
I have to say, I am impressed with this line up. That’s some really good height uniformity once lined up. Even with #3 being taller, it still looks good and is worth a look. Neither parent was overly tall so I don’t see a reason to shy away from the taller phenotype. #2 and #6 were my picks from this bunch. I’ll still be keeping an eye on #3. It was recently topped and is one of the tallest in the room.
Far Left, 1st row, #1 starts at bottom
I have to say, I am impressed with this line up. That’s some really good height uniformity once lined up. Even with #3 being taller, it still looks good and is worth a look. Neither parent was overly tall so I don’t see a reason to shy away from the taller phenotype. #2 and #6 were my picks from this bunch. I’ll still be keeping an eye on #3. It was recently topped and is one of the tallest in the room.
Far Left, 1st row, #1 starts at bottom
Strain: BCK Phylex Cut x Pandemic f1
BCK checks a lot of boxes for me. I’ve always liked dusting her with different pollen. She smells of effervescent, aloe lotion with a slight cheese and has a sativa leaning, old school effect. Pandemic brings beautiful coloring and rich terpenes. Pandemic’s bouquet has been Sweet, Candied, Berries, Fruit, and Floral with a heavier Indica leaning effect. BCK has proven time and again to be a very stubborn, dominate plant. BCK produces rough, beach sand style trichomes while TM produces soft, and gooey heads. It’ll be interesting to see who dominates who with this trait. I’m expecting a very pleasurable effect from this combination.
Mother: BCK Phylex Cut is presumably Birthday Cake Kush though unconfirmed. This particular girl grows exceptionally well, has sturdy, uniform structure, consistent yielder, easy to clone, etc. She’s an exceptional smoke.
Father: Pandemic was an f1 project that was made using my Gelat.OG Mother and a Hyper Alien male. This project was originally delayed during testing, and now ultimately abandoned. Pandemic has never exhibited any intersex issues, but is still a part of the same lot and should be watched closely. I selected an impressive looking male during testing and stashed away some pollen. Pandemic is loud with fruity, sweet-candied terpenes and rich color. Of all the abandoned projects in this lot, Pandemic would be one of the first ones I’d revisit and work with.
Purpose: These seeds weren’t a planned project. They were created from a personal side chuck spawned by my own curiosity at the time. I wanted to see if the Pandemic male would pass along Pandemic’s incredible terpenes and color to the dominant BCK female. I was also intrigued by the possibilities of their combined effect.
BCK checks a lot of boxes for me. I’ve always liked dusting her with different pollen. She smells of effervescent, aloe lotion with a slight cheese and has a sativa leaning, old school effect. Pandemic brings beautiful coloring and rich terpenes. Pandemic’s bouquet has been Sweet, Candied, Berries, Fruit, and Floral with a heavier Indica leaning effect. BCK has proven time and again to be a very stubborn, dominate plant. BCK produces rough, beach sand style trichomes while TM produces soft, and gooey heads. It’ll be interesting to see who dominates who with this trait. I’m expecting a very pleasurable effect from this combination.
Mother: BCK Phylex Cut is presumably Birthday Cake Kush though unconfirmed. This particular girl grows exceptionally well, has sturdy, uniform structure, consistent yielder, easy to clone, etc. She’s an exceptional smoke.
Father: Pandemic was an f1 project that was made using my Gelat.OG Mother and a Hyper Alien male. This project was originally delayed during testing, and now ultimately abandoned. Pandemic has never exhibited any intersex issues, but is still a part of the same lot and should be watched closely. I selected an impressive looking male during testing and stashed away some pollen. Pandemic is loud with fruity, sweet-candied terpenes and rich color. Of all the abandoned projects in this lot, Pandemic would be one of the first ones I’d revisit and work with.
Purpose: These seeds weren’t a planned project. They were created from a personal side chuck spawned by my own curiosity at the time. I wanted to see if the Pandemic male would pass along Pandemic’s incredible terpenes and color to the dominant BCK female. I was also intrigued by the possibilities of their combined effect.
Day 36 from seed
Not another bad looking bunch here. All are relatively average in height with a few shorty’s. #1 #4 and #6 have most of my attention. I still have an eye on #3 and the others are worth watching. But who knows what the final outcome could be until harvest and a good smoke report.
2nd row from left, #1 starts at the bottom
Not another bad looking bunch here. All are relatively average in height with a few shorty’s. #1 #4 and #6 have most of my attention. I still have an eye on #3 and the others are worth watching. But who knows what the final outcome could be until harvest and a good smoke report.
2nd row from left, #1 starts at the bottom
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