Alcohol and Cannabis

[HBZ]

when he said he generally smokes alone, maybe his brain has shut down the component of providing enjoyment when smoking with others? and prefers the solitude?

That's definitely the case somewhat..However when I'm good and buzzed up i tend plants really well..I just got used to no distraction when in the grow...It's been my leave me tf alone spot for many years..Lots of bullshit goes away when I'm tending to the gals..I surely like being quite buzzed and in peace from the rest of the world

 

[HBZ]

I don't see why that couldn't be a thing although he did say occasionally anyway he's good to hang with ppl as long as he's doing both.

Damn this whole humaning thing has it's dilemmas.

Ya I don't mind hanging out but usually with ppl that talk growing lol...The older I get the more Im becoming a hermit . My wife works alot of hours and when she's home that's right where she likes to stay...Some of that has rubbed off

 

[Captain Sternn]

Ya I don't mind hanging out but usually with ppl that talk growing lol...The older I get the more Im becoming a hermit . My wife works alot of hours and when she's home that's right where she likes to stay...Some of that has rubbed off

I can relate. I left the house yesterday because I needed to see the dr. and get some help shaking off this walking pneumonia I've had for about a month before I get some other infection and get in a bad way. I hadn't left the place since Christmas, I go on some pretty long stretches lol.

 

[rkymtnman]

The older I get the more Im becoming a hermit

you are not alone!

@HBZ maybe you need to have a little outing to a place like this? we get high AF, go have a few adult cocktails and then drive 50 mph indoor in electric karts. always puts a smile on my face.

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[Bullfrog]

I hate saying it as much as you'll like hearing it but seems like your becoming alcohol dependent. Your body rejects any other buzz until it gets what it wants.

 

[Psychobilly]

I'm going to sound like our good buddy @Psychobilly here pushing cheese. Love ya Billy. But grow out some Pure Michigan and give it smoke..Be a great place to start..That strain treats me extremely well

Hey don't knock the Cheese keeps me from needing multiple prescription bottles each month.

I really don't think that's it ...Only reason I say that is because on certain nights when I "really" drink..Like drink to the point of being actually drunk I smoke my face off. Like hang with the big dogs type smoking..Never have a negative nothing..In fact those nights I'm always the last person still awake and normally still smoking by myself after everyone else tapped long ago. With alcohol I have a major tolerance.... without alcohol I have zero tolerance....Wish I could make it make sense. But that's the reason I even started this thread cause I can't make sense of any of it. I probably just sound like a crazy person or a dumbass but this is reality for me and Im not happy about it

I'm German and Irish, and for me, I've narrowed it down to what I'm "really after" for alcohol; no hangover stuff, no stumbling around (Irish folk dancing) and not really that drunk unless it's an occasional thing. Getting there, where a case of beer can last more than a night, involves very specific strains that seem to help a lot. Chem crosses can be almost like drinking to me sometimes, and the Cheese usually can mix with that, and replace Xanax and Opioids that I used to get prescriptions for. Can't say it'll be the same for everyone, but I am happy I found a better way with what I actually use daily. Beta Caryophyllin, is capable of reducing alcohol cravings; Chem is great at producing that. And because I love and care; so are Cookie strains *sigh*. It pains me to recommend that lol.

 

[Psychobilly]

Oh, before I forget....Weedshine exists too.

 

[HBZ]

you are not alone!

@HBZ maybe you need to have a little outing to a place like this? we get high AF, go have a few adult cocktails and then drive 50 mph indoor in electric karts. always puts a smile on my face.

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Overdrive Raceway in Colorado Springs is the nation's first two-story, two-track indoor kart racing facility!

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Now that would be fun..Ide be down for that..Not sure anything like that around here..But I've never looked. Was planning on zip lining this past summer...Fate had other plans for me

 

[HBZ]

I hate saying it as much as you'll like hearing it but seems like your becoming alcohol dependent. Your body rejects any other buzz until it gets what it wants.

I have absolutely no problem believing that...I think your spot on

 

[HBZ]

Hey don't knock the Cheese keeps me from needing multiple prescription bottles each month.

I'm German and Irish, and for me, I've narrowed it down to what I'm "really after" for alcohol; no hangover stuff, no stumbling around (Irish folk dancing) and not really that drunk unless it's an occasional thing. Getting there, where a case of beer can last more than a night, involves very specific strains that seem to help a lot. Chem crosses can be almost like drinking to me sometimes, and the Cheese usually can mix with that, and replace Xanax and Opioids that I used to get prescriptions for. Can't say it'll be the same for everyone, but I am happy I found a better way with what I actually use daily. Beta Caryophyllin, is capable of reducing alcohol cravings; Chem is great at producing that. And because I love and care; so are Cookie strains *sigh*. It pains me to recommend that lol.

Really happy to hear ya found a solid way to stay away from opiates and benzos..Those things are the devil..Ide never knock the cheese...Just personally isn't way up there for me...Could be someday I suppose..Would have to be some sativa dom cheese more than likely

 

[Cradle of Mirth]

you got me thinking, kinda on a unrelated note...
if THC (SUPPOSEDLY) slows secretion of TSH from the pituitary gland mostly by regulation of TRH being release in the hypothalamus,
and TSH as we know for sure is associated with an increased risk of lipid and carbohydrate metabolism disorders
and that:

There was one abstract that reported that plasma concentrations of the luteinizing hormone (LH), testosterone, and cortisol were significantly higher in boys using cannabis (n=217), but plasma growth hormone (GH) concentrations were lower during puberty in the cannabis group

Then can I assume that is why most who i've known to use cannabis quite heavily, not necessarily smoking it, always look younger than they really are, and seemingly able to eat everything they want and not be as affected by weight gain? but in reverse for those who are struggling to gain weight, slow the metabolism down to a normal regulated level, where they have the reverse problem of too high of a metabolism. + gained appetite.

So it keeps us younger, happier, and regulates lipid/metabolism disorders. pretty sweet deal for endomorphs and ectomorphs and i guess the meso's out there just turn into arnold schwarzenagers like back when he smoked weed, drank beer and ate fried chicken at the beach gym with franko columbu

you got my brain churning, cause i can relate to you in some ways with the alcohol and weed but for me its nicotine. and other thoughts i've had. and i just know when covid cold turkeyed me from alcohol, weed, nicotine, and practically water which was torture to take down...well when i came back to the ganja finally after only craving a very specific high i had in the 2000's, sour diesel, its all i kept thinging about to keep my mind off things...anyways i got a good 40+ day tolerance break, didn't add back in the alcohol or the nicotine, got floored was loving it. till one stressful day i cracked on the nic, and that was when i learned to not combine the two as it confuses my body about cravings and also the effects of cannabis singularly. i don't mix em now sheerly so i can enjoy cannabis effects fully, and make sure i limit my use of concentrates/rosin, havent had a dab in years, but i was using my hot nail on bubble hash for a few days recently and it definitely impacted how I experience normal flower, and quickly got a tollerance to the nail..but its normalized now.

Running diverse seedpools that aren't completely homogenous helps with my tollerance the most. Unless i'm after a very specific terp profile or plant, i like sifting through things that have 3+ phenotypes, cycle through those and keep my tollerance down from the varying enteurage effects. but typically i'm just popping 6+ different strains to be sure. but i'll cater to the effects i want so i'm at least in the ball park, fewer coucher lockers than the cerebral dragon up the spine types typically for me.

 

[Cradle of Mirth]

synergy was a word i forgot to throw in there. i feel like we can reprogram our neurons of that synergy, there's gotta be a way. I can't fairly give an answer because for me it was pain following my experience that caused me to go cold turkey, quite simply that, pure pain. the thought of it, ghost sensations of pain lol. made it easy. i remember while they were connected things though, alcohol, nicotine and cannabis, it was hard to have one or the other without another.

This Ballast Point was my go-to when I could, some warm body temp tito's or zubrowka followed with warm water, gin and fresh ginger with limes and iced sugar water or a boston mule...all that used to make me yearn, now i just get ghost pain in the belly lol.

Only alcohol I get in me anymore is homemade kombucha stuff, can't distill it off without killing the good bacteria :/ so i aint dissing on the drink or trying to make it sound easy..if i'm drinking this fresh kombucha stuff then i'm still technically drinking? lol. i just don't have the synergy there no more between the alcohol and things.

 

[Cincimilla Genetics]

Read the thread: simplicity is how I best learn and communicate.

Alcohol is poison, there is no system in your body to receive it.

Cannabis is medicine, there is a system in your body to receive it.

Moderation is key. Over consumption or needing a stimulant is honestly a mental or emotional situation.

Intermittent fasting twice a year, eat clean, exercise.

This is a human baseline. If you are not here, you are not in control.

Master thyself.

Edit: Internally we all already knew this

 

[Cradle of Mirth]

 

[Cincimilla Genetics]

 

[HBZ]

Great posting fellas...Alot of this is exactly what I needed because it really gave the kick my mind needed... Fascinating view @Cradle of Mirth ...I never took nicotine into consideration..Man if I'm awake I have a duo of chew in my lip always..So many of y'all hit some points that hadn't crossed my mind..I NEED TO CLEAN UP..I don't want to be without cannabis...But I now know if I don't change some things that's what will happen and it's because of other vises controlling me...Not vises..Poisons..Some very helpful and smart fellas amongst us here..This thread alone quite possibly will change my life as I know it.. Perhaps I may have deep down knew some of this but decided to think it was other things causing me problems..Won't be easy for me to completely clean up to the point of cannabis only but I've been thru worse shit I promise ya that

 

[wigsplitta713]

When I used to smoke joints in the mid 80's and early 90's, I could smoke and then go to parties and drink, but not the other way around. If I drank, then smoked, I would get the spins and puke everytime, never a good time. After not smoking for 30 years and recently starting to dry herb vape, I assume it would still be the same. In my case, I gave up the alcohol and use cannabis in it's place, but only vape a couple of times per week. It's definitely a different vibe now, but maybe that's because I have different responsibilities or whatever. I have to be mindful because I tend to get anxious with most varieties out there when I vape now. I never had that problem with the Mexican Red Hair we would get in the 80's and it was always almost always the same stuff year in and year out....

Me love the spins but the SPINS DONT LOVE ME

I've been up and down the road. Countless strains inside and out... Definitely prefer sativa's or sativa dom..But it makes no difference...Only enjoy them with alcohol regardless

Me too bro I love drinking and smoking sometimes too damn much.

 

[DemonTrich]

If you can source Darlins Net (Dans buds personal pheno), that was absolutely THE best strain for pain and pain management. I was sad to let it go, none of my clients wanted her any more. I had a knee surgery, I dosed heavily for 5 days straight, but didn't take a single Norco (vicoden/pain pill).

This was the strain I used to help people get off of opioids.

Ive tried to reach out for years to get it back to everyone who got that cut from me. There are seeds now for this strain, but you'll have to hunt.

 

[Psychobilly]

Really happy to hear ya found a solid way to stay away from opiates and benzos..Those things are the devil..Ide never knock the cheese...Just personally isn't way up there for me...Could be someday I suppose..Would have to be some sativa dom cheese more than likely

Me to brother

You know, you have Susie Cream Cheese seeds if I'm not mistaken pull her at about 75 % cloudy, and I could easily see that being close.

If you can source Darlins Net (Dans buds personal pheno), that was absolutely THE best strain for pain and pain management. I was sad to let it go, none of my clients wanted her any more. I had a knee surgery, I dosed heavily for 5 days straight, but didn't take a single Norco (vicoden/pain pill).

This was the strain I used to help people get off of opioids.

Ive tried to reach out for years to get it back to everyone who got that cut from me. There are seeds now for this strain, but you'll have to hunt.

That's honestly how Cheese got my radar; it was the first time in my life that any kind of weed actually helped with what I really needed. I'm sure you remember how it was around here back when you barely knew the strain name, but man that Blue Cheese, was a game changer for me. Eventually I got to try Purple Chemdog, and that was also very helpful. And here I am now annoying people every time they grow a Cheese or Chem lol.

 

[wigsplitta713]

Me to brother

You know, you have Susie Cream Cheese seeds if I'm not mistaken pull her at about 75 % cloudy, and I could easily see that being close.


That's honestly how Cheese got my radar; it was the first time in my life that any kind of weed actually helped with what I really needed. I'm sure you remember how it was around here back when you barely knew the strain name, but man that Blue Cheese, was a game changer for me. Eventually I got to try Purple Chemdog, and that was also very helpful. And here I am now annoying people every time they grow a Cheese or Chem lol.

I'm still looking for the Exodus cheese we had back in 2011 from Green house seeds tried the seeds again nothing but have some strawberry cheese i believe from big buddha farms for his memorial got them free from karma packs