Chem D

[Psychobilly]

Hey guys, I've got a question that I'm not quite grasping about Chem D; I've read that it's a Phenotype of the original Chemdog, and that it's either a Sativa, or Sativa dominant strain, and I've also read that it was "bred with an Indica at some point maybe" and I'm starting to think that.

When I was starting to use my Jeweler's Eye to check the color of the resin on my plants this passed season, I noticed that the Chem D was already getting cloudy like almost at the same time Blue Cheese was, and Blue Cheese outside in Michigan? The End of September to maybe mid October and it's ready. So I'm a bit confused as it was ready to soon. Now I really don't have much experience with Sativa heavy strains, but the Hawaiian Sunshine I grew took a REALLY long time. It was still clear for a while. It was started from Seed taken from buds I smoked and I am OCD as fuck about seeds, so I know it was the Chem D.

I guess I'm wondering if that's normal? Or is it distinctly possible that there is some Indica in there?

Any thoughts?

 

[imjustgrumpy]

Stuff like this is why no one can get authentic cannabis information




Proper Chem D should be eye-wateringly pungent like skunk, halitosis, pepper and burnt rubber. Spits out sterile nanners in flower, done between 65-70 days. Not my pics.

 

[Psychobilly]

Burnt Rubber is exactly how it smells, though with curing there's a noticeable almost Pine Sol like aroma. Yeah it's one of my favorites. Peppery as fuck on the nose on the exhale, just wonderful.

But that article you posted still called it a Sativa, and yet the flowering time isn't exactly long, which was my reason for asking.

 

[imjustgrumpy]

The screenshot I posted is not accurate cannabis information

 

[Psychobilly]

The screenshot I posted is not accurate cannabis information

What? Don't be silly! Everyone on the internet hears "pictures or it didn't happen" and you posted pictures..... lol sorry couldn't resist. I'm basing what I said about Chem D's genetics off of an article I read that was an interview with the dude that named Chemdog, and I may have already figured out not to listen to every web site in terms of facts, I do feel like that is a pretty credible source. From what I read, Chem D was one of the 13 original seeds from back when it was "Dog Bud" and "Chem Weed" at a Grateful Dead show. Apparently he simply named each seed "Chem 1...2...etc" and then "Chem A....B...C...D...". I wasn't there and I'm not friends with Doctor Who but I feel personally that that is credible in terms of history. Again, this is my opinion, but my main question for this was simply how a Sativa or Sativa dominant strain, would have such an incredibly short flower cycle based on the color of the resin VS the month its ready is all. I'm ok with strains having some mystery, I just wanted to know if it was normal for it to lean that far into Indica territory.

 

[Idlewilder]

Don’t get hung up on the indica/sativa term.

Matt Riot is an idiot but Notsodog is the real deal

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[Psychobilly]

Don’t get hung up on the indica/sativa term.

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I'll read that tomorrow, it's a bit late around here. But for myself personally; for me, Sativa means longer flowering periods and nothing more, just as Indica means "region sees snow fall each year", and a natural shorter flower cycle where it's ready early by comparison, and that is about as far as I take that. My experience says the resin color and Terpene Profile will dictate a given experience more so than Indica or Sativa. I probably could have worded that better really. But my question is more based on flowering time than name given.

Is Chem D a weirdly short flowing cycle for the Sativa dominant genetics that make up its supposed landrace genetics? Or is my Michigan environment bringing out a shorter flowering cycle that I simply didn't understand?

Sorry, I may have just not worded that as well as I could have. My confusion is stemming from flowering time more than anything else.

 

[imjustgrumpy]

Matt Riot is an idiot but Notsodog is the real deal

This meme is a Riot

 

[Psychobilly]

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This meme is a Riot

Being from Michigan there's a few times ICP popped in my head reading that but it's still funny lol. If it helps with my question, forget that I said Chem D... what if you were trying to guess what genetics make up any strain was giving you if all you knew was "Probably leans Sativa or what genetics says it's longer flowering periods" and then you see a seedling of that being finished what seems like too fast for a tropical climate oriented sub species, and wonder / ponder because you smoked a bunch of it, if there's any actual Indica/ short flowering periods in these genetics that appear to be pretty heavy tropical leaning. I'm not asking specifically for this strain, but the tropical leaning VS colder climate leaning being the answer, or, is my colder environment bringing something out that I have misunderstood? Again I may not be wording this in the best way.

 

[18B]

Anything coming out as DAWG is NOT the real CHEMDOG anything....the acceptable term for the use of DAWG is for anything related to JJs STARDAWG....This is according to PBud and chemdog, skunkva, and they hashed it out with JJ over it too.

 

[18B]

Don’t get hung up on the indica/sativa term.

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I like you even more now... ?

 

[Psychobilly]

You know I used to wonder why "Dawg" was used until I started reading and found out it wasn't the original spelling. There's so many sites that have info on them that totally contradicts what another says making it difficult to get good info.

Shit depending on which site you read "Candy Kush" and "Kandy Kush" are either different strains, or simply different spellings of the same one....

I totally understand that there's varying degrees of facts, but my initial question is essentially now; "is Chem D a Sativa, and is it normal for such a quick flowering cycle, or is the plant responding to my environment?". As I said in my initial post, I've got what I believe to be a pretty heavy Sativa dominant strain that took weeks to be ready so I'm using that as a comparison. Is Chem D a Sativa? And by Sativa, I simply mean "longer flowering periods". Depending on which site I'm reading (Leafly, Hytiva, etc...) they say Chemdog is of Nepalese and Thai origin.

 

[imjustgrumpy]

I'm currently growing the Chem D clone in Michigan as well. Chem D doesn't have the electric and euphoric high that I associate with sativas... the effect is heavier, sleep inducing, and will put you down in the couch. Chem D is finished at 65 days and its not because we live in MI. People do not add Chem D in crosses for a touch of Sativa.

 

[Psychobilly]

Ok see that it's why I had confusion; so many sites including the one you posted were calling it a Sativa, but that tropical longer flowering periods didn't seem to show up on mine. In fact I noticed what I'd call heavy Indica leaning because it finished so quick.

I let her go until I had a nice Amber coloration in the resin to get some CBN going, and until a member here mentioned a plant having a burnt rubber smell I had some trouble with its scent description. She got pretty chilly too and was stunning! One of the stickiest plants to grind up too. Motor Breath can be really sticky, but Chem D will fuck a grinder right up.

The burnt rubber smell is still there now, but as its cured, there's been a kind of intriguing Pine Sol aroma that's been just starting to show.

I had this done indoor last year which is where my seedling came from, and I feel like cooler temps increased resin production; the indoor was sticky too, but not fuck a grinder up after a quarter ounce sticky.

I didn't know you were in Michigan; ever grown Blue Cheese outside here? I've had incredible results with that strain.