Cloning success

Frosty78

In Bloom
Ive spent a decade going through 9 different turbokloners from 24 site to 144 and just as many homemade with hingeless coleman coolers, 2” hole bits pvc manifold etc
And what's the solution? What's your preferred method then mate. What did you settle on? I'm not interested in wasting a decade seeing as I'm starting out indoors lol. Outdoors ice had down pat for decades lol
 
And what's the solution? What's your preferred method then mate. What did you settle on? I'm not interested in wasting a decade seeing as I'm starting out indoors lol. Outdoors ice had down pat for decades lol
If you have the power capacity to properly control your environment then the machine are the way. I always rebuild the manifold and replaced the pump with a lower wattage and put them on timers 15 min on 15 off
 
Heater or frozen water bottles can easily control water temps its the humidity swing, dew point exposure, condensation, spore heaven. Some machines sell domes as well. Inserts are hard to properly clean the expensive ones you can sterilize in the oven are worth the investment and awesome deep clean the manifold sprayers everything in between every run. Lots of work in volume. Forced me to switch to plugs and trays, very hard to ship a rooted clone from the machine vs rooted in grodan cubes, peat or coco plugs
 
Leatherman knife
Rapid Rooters preferred (or peat pucks)
Rooting gel, then dipped into powder as well
No nutes in clone medium
Inverted see-thru Sterilite container
Lights sit on "top" of see-thru basin
Clones sit on "bottom" lid
Spray, click and lock it shut
Extreme light foliar feed every few days
99-100% success
About 8 to 10 days for the strong, quick ones


I never had a single clone root in my cloner, and it screwed up my entire rotation/staggered harvests, so I hate them.
Mine now sits on the shelf collecting dust, pumps scavenged for other stuff.
 

HOGBACKMAGIC14

In Bloom
if i am only doing a few cuttings i use a 16oz cup clonex wet medium almost drench cover with ziplock bag for dome
its works pretty well and i use a DIY cloner i made what i found out with hydro spray cloners my pump shit out and i ended up
using to big of a pump in a 5 gal bucket i switched to a 6watt pump keeps water temps cooler and works for me
with good results :punkrocker:
 
if i am only doing a few cuttings i use a 16oz cup clonex wet medium almost drench cover with ziplock bag for dome
its works pretty well and i use a DIY cloner i made what i found out with hydro spray cloners my pump shit out and i ended up
using to big of a pump in a 5 gal bucket i switched to a 6watt pump keeps water temps cooler and works for me
with good results :punkrocker:
Where did you find the six watt pump?
 

OldG

Elite Hobbyist
If you have the power capacity to properly control your environment then the machine are the way. I always rebuild the manifold and replaced the pump with a lower wattage and put them on timers 15 min on 15 off
and that fixes the heat problem. running 24-0 with too small a cloner res and i always had problems.

I have the 9 port turbokloner. Do not buy its a leaky POS

I also have a fat sack of those spray everywhere jets...the pump is good and i have lots of PVC. I just dont clone enough to need it.

My last round..it was as easy as cloning gets. I took cuts...put them in water while i got them....then put them in clone gel for a good 3 to 5 minutes...into a floraflex plug right into a 4 inch rockwool cube at PH 5.5 (water with a drop of super thrive). They took off 10 for 10 and i had to flush 2.

And they make these tiny little bottles of cloning gel. I get those and after a round of cuts...i just use the next one (always clean). CLEAN really helps with clones.

I keep some of those 4 inch around for it now.

And i have them in stock... :D

Floraflex in 1/2 gallon pots (6 inch) with clones works VERY well. I think its the first time i really liked the system.
 

HydroRed

3Thirteen Seeds
Staff member
Admittedly, cloning isn't my strongest suit but I do have an idea of what works better for me at least.

When taking cuts, I like to put the them into a cup of water as soon as I cut them. (Letting a fresh cut sit in open air can cause an embolism.)
Use clean, sharp cutting tools.
Lower lighting often works best for me. That shadowed corner in the tent or under a low wattage fluorescent is usually just right.
I dont use anything but tap water (pH 6.0 and 110ppm)

When it comes to cloning into a hydroponic bubbler/sprayer etc:

-low light
-Water temps 70ish*F
-I wont use a dome or a cover over the cuts. I let the bottom end of the plant do all the "work".
-I also don't submerge the cuts directly into the water underneath the lid in a bubbler. I'll keep about 1/4-1/2"" between the bottom of the cuts and top of my water line and let the bubbles popping on the surface keep them all wet.
-change the water every 3 days
Usually have roots beginning by 3rd water change.


In rapid rooters/plugs:

-low light
-I will always use a humidity dome with plugs/rooters. No venting for the first 2-3 days.
-I'll keep the plugs moist not wet.
-mist the cuttings foliage and inside of humidity dome 1-2x daily
Usually have transplantable roots in 8-12 days.

I almost always had issues when I used rockwool. Im sure it was on me, but I found more success with other methods.
 
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HydroRed

3Thirteen Seeds
Staff member
So lower pump for cooler water temps for longer? Would a air stone work even better for cooler temps longer? I know it's not a sprayer but it will get moisture solution there aswell correct?
The air stones can put off just as much (if not more) heat than a submersible pump. The heated air from the pump is what makes the air to the bubbler stone, in turn releasing that heat into the res. Bubblers are great to use if you dont have heat mats and struggle to keep warmer temps in your water.
 
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