Ice Fishing 23-24

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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Looks like Fall is getting serious this week. Figured I'd start a thread for the upcoming hardwater season.
Tonight looks like the last night without frost(6C) with possible snow next week

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At least now I can wear my bibs to the river without feeling like a wimp. ;)

Last year I was walking on water on November 11.
Gear is pretty much ready. I've already set up the two insulated tents to make sure there were no bug, rodent, or mold related surprises. Sleds are ready.
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Jewels

Tilts at Tables
Can one use an 'average' or mean daily temp as an ice building meteric ?

I know water temperature, humidity, and convection may have an effect.
Wondering if you can observe weather close enough to (somewhat) predict first day on the ice.
Mostly just curious, do you have any rules of thumb, or tell-tales that would allow you to say, 'looks like I'm going to be on the Ice this week'
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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Can one use an 'average' or mean daily temp as an ice building meteric ?

I know water temperature, humidity, and convection may have an effect.
Wondering if you can observe weather close enough to (somewhat) predict first day on the ice.
Mostly just curious, do you have any rules of thumb, or tell-tales that would allow you to say, 'looks like I'm going to be on the Ice this week'
There are formulas for the rate of ice formation as related to temperature, but they are only a rough guideline.

Each water body is unique due to size, depth, orientation, structure, flow, springs, location, and a bunch of other factors. One lake might have walkable ice while one nearby might still be open. I may be able to predict a lake I know well.

The only sure test for safe ice is to wear your spikes(both for traction on your boots and around your neck for self rescue) and take your spud bar and chip your way out, drilling holes all the way. Even on a single lake, conditions can be drastically different only a few feet apart due to underwater springs, methane bubbles, currents, etc.

IMO, anyone who takes somebody else's word on early ice safety is being foolish. Even if it was safe yesterday, or this morning, it might not be now. Test it yourself and stay shallow early in the season.
 

Jewels

Tilts at Tables
Nice. I dig x and y.

Off the cuff; a month below freezing should get you 10 inches of ice.

I am kinda chicken so, in order to judge ice, I am most comfortable utilising traditional tracking methods.

First I spot some yahoo's 4×4 out on the lake, creep down the boat launch, and follow the tire tracks.

Most of the 80's, there was a bubble on me Granpaps pond.
Late January, and the ice is almost as thick as the auger is long, there is still a 10-in black disc of open water.

I want everyone to have a safe season.
My grandpa once said it and Amarok mentioned it, you don't know how thick the ice is that you are standing on, until you drill a hole.
 

belleswell

In Bloom
We usually get first ice by the last week of November around Thanksgiving time, and as late as Christmas like last year. I love hard water. As the
ice fishing season progresses, the panfish taste sweeter and sweeter. They go from their summer diet of bugs and worms to a winter diet of
copepods and diatomes. Microscopic and barely visible to the eye. Eating smaller on the food chain in the winter months makes them taste
sweeter.

Jigs
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Don't forget a good lake map book
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Do I need this many rods when I'm usually just
fishing with one. Nope, but it sure looks like I
know what I'm doing.
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Mean Green
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Home made spring bobbers from .010 guitar strings.
Small Snyder jig. Spikes and Mousies are caddis larva
that I buy 1000 of each at the beginning of the season.
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Vexilar FL 8
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Perch are my favorite year round, but especially ice fishing
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16" Crappie
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Secret sauce for crappie. Anise oil.
I normally chase bluegills or perch in the winter as I
like them better than crappies. However this Anise oil
will easily quadruple catches for crappie if that is
ones target.

It is sold at grocery stores and used for flavoring in making rock candy.
Just a small dab on the hook or jig, and then fish with the normal
minnows or grubs. A little goes a long way. Anise oil is the main
ingredient in commercially made crappie baits.
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I have used Mora hand augers for years and a spud before that.
Sharp spuds are always good for first ice. If you can punch a hole with
one poke, back away in the direction you came from. I bought an ION
36 v auger a couple years ago which is supposed to go through 1000' of
ice on one charge.

When I was using the Mora hand auger, trying to drill
50 to 75 different holes some days to find them, my arms would hurt the
following day. The ION 36v auger makes sore arms a thing of the past.
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Notice the small cardboard box wrapped in a grocery bag on the back side of the
Vexilar FL 8 flasher in the above pic. One of the top flaps is tucked into
the back of the flasher box where the 12v battery keeps it pinned there.

Once I've found a general area where I'm catching them and have a few
holes drilled in the area I can hole hop catching one or two from one hole and
then go to the next closest hole.

Hole hopping increases my catches of bluegill and will invariable result in
finding some holes that produce better than others. When I catch a couple at one
hole, I can throw them in the grocery bag lined box and then move to the next
closest hole. Lather, rinse, repeat and every so often, deposit them back at where my
bucket or portable shanty I drag out is at.

And never venture out onto the ice without a pair of these in your coat pocket.
These ice picks could be the difference between life and death if one falls through.
They can be used to help pulls ones self out of the freezing water.

Better to have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them.
I made the ones on the left years ago from the broken handle of a post hole
digger and some # 16 nails, sharpened on my wheel. I gave a couple of extra sets
of these to fishing buds. A cork on the sharp end of each lets them sit nicely in
ones coat pocket.

The orange ones on the right are commercially made and have an extra hole in the
end where the spike is at, so they can store in ones pocket with the pointy ends of
each pushed into the body of the other one.
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A very secluded honey hole about 20 miles from home that produces enough
10" gills to get my attention. Not to mention the occasional 12". When ice fishing,
and especially on secluded lakes, always and I mean always have your ice spikes in your pocket.

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Bullfrog

In Bloom
There are formulas for the rate of ice formation as related to temperature, but they are only a rough guideline.

Each water body is unique due to size, depth, orientation, structure, flow, springs, location, and a bunch of other factors. One lake might have walkable ice while one nearby might still be open. I may be able to predict a lake I know well.

The only sure test for safe ice is to wear your spikes(both for traction on your boots and around your neck for self rescue) and take your spud bar and chip your way out, drilling holes all the way. Even on a single lake, conditions can be drastically different only a few feet apart due to underwater springs, methane bubbles, currents, etc.

IMO, anyone who takes somebody else's word on early ice safety is being foolish. Even if it was safe yesterday, or this morning, it might not be now. Test it yourself and stay shallow early in the season.
Oh man do I have stories of watching idiots go out on the ice. Can't believe some of them didn't go through. One of the crazier ones, I watched a full sized truck drive across a lake with 4" of ice. Thankfully it wasn't near us but you could hear the ice snapping like crazy. If he had stopped he would've went down. Was fishing a bay on a really big lake, the bay was frozen but barely. I fished out in front of the launch at 5'-6' of water because any further and there was less than two inches. Some brave soul rides right on by with his quad loaded down with gear. My small group were the only ones on the bay, rest of the lake was open water. Unbelievably he made it out 4 or 500 yards, got his power auger out and cut a hole, jumped right back on his quad and hightailed it off the ice. Lucky dude, I was scared to walk any further and this guy never even check the ice until he was way out there. I just don't get it.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
Staff member
Moderator
I've been playing with gear, doing a few mods. I'll take some pics eventually.
I added a swing-arm for the transducer to the caddy I built for my Striker 4 sonar, as well as a 'cup' to hold the 'ducer during transport/storage. I continued modding the various milk crates I use for storage and have a sweet, efficient set-up for lures/tools/terminal tackle.

The biggest challenge is fitting everything on a sled or sleds to drag out on the lake, and that is all tetris-ing together nicely on my kitchen floor.

Temps are staying below freezing. Unless I hear something, or there is a weather change, I'll start driving around checking the lakes in about a week.

Not long now.
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Amarok

bad mother chucker
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Been watching ice fishing vids while in the down time between seasons and it drives me crazy watching all these burbot "experts" telling viewers how you need a big mass of bait to catch burbs.

Right. Because in nature, burbot swim around feeding on clumps of 6 minnow heads.
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I usually end up helping a few different noobs during the spawn every spring and I don't think I've failed yet at helping people catch their first ever burbs. It isn't rocket science. Basically everything that works for walleye will work for burbot. Just go a little bigger, both in lure size and in the actions used.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
Staff member
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Just saw some photos of a large lake closer to Edmonton. Guys are busting through 100 yards of inch thick ice to get to the open water with their boats.
I will definitely be taking a drive and checking out some of my smaller local lakes this weekend. Bring on the ice! I'm getting tired of jigging in my kitchen, action has been really slow.
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Amarok

bad mother chucker
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I hadn't realized that the striker 4 sonars run on 12-20 volts. I had only ever used 12v SLA's or more recently, 12v LiPo batteries, but I've already tested a 20v battery from my weed wacker and it works great.

The battery is so small and light that I may figure out a way to wear the older model(think Flavor Flav;) ), with the battery in my pocket. I'd be a hole-hopping machine.

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Also, are there any gadget geeks that can point me toward a quality 40v to 12v step-down converter? I have (2) 40v x 5Ah batteries for my electric auger that would be handy for powering other items while on the ice.

StrikeMaster has just released this unit down south, but nobody seems to have it in Canada. It's overengineered for my needs, but I'd probably grab one if they were available locally.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
Staff member
Moderator
No need to be coy. We know your talking about the b-zero.
No coyness here. :ROFLMAO:

I can run the Zero from a normal inverter, it's lights and underwater cameras and such that could use some more juice from a lightweight, underutilized power source.

Though now that you mention it: does anyone know where to get a 40v DC to 110 AC inverter? :unsure:


I think the Wand induction heater and my dynavaps should do the trick in the ice tent
You can test them yourselves when you come ice fishing in March. ;)
 

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
Though now that you mention it: does anyone know where to get a 40v DC to 110 AC inverter?
Pretty sure you can do anything you want.


200W 40USD
Amazon product
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
Staff member
Moderator
TOO MANY PROPRIETARY CONNECTIONS!!!!!
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Every stupid company has to make their own unique connectors. It's like the early days of USB when there were different cords for each device. Only now, instead of a drawer full of charging cables, it's a cupboard full of batteries.

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;)
 
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