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Actually someone said to go 24on/0 off and that works “best”

that’s been proven by testing of same strain but also many great breeders and big ag would disagree with that (bro sci ) anything above 18/6 is waste hints why 17on /7 off is best since you’ll save a hour a day and plants will look no different . 30 extra hours of power baby in general per month and than 11 on / 13 off for flower cycle ( dj shorts was the one of the first to write about on the books/ publicly )


Harvey from npk explains as well


I reveg and veg 24/0 as I can't have a proper cycle in the room it's in and I find they reveg and veg quicker just got to feed more imho??
 

HydroRed

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but why is this math ethics or answer that makes you thrive to go 18/6 do you Find the plants grow faster? It’s proven sci that plants need sleep and also proven through university and through big ag and netherlands and many country’s did testing That also agree , wasted power after 18lights on/ 6 off max.

if you had 100’s of lights and even 1000’s and even the maintance also while running also a room the extra hours . Why run those extra 6hour? That’s 180 hours wasted a month wasted? I’m good my lights get 2-4lb Light per 1000w and my plants look amazing in veg . waste all you want but you can’t play god when they have evolved just like you to want sleep and co2
Plants dont "need" sleep or else they would die on a 24 hr light cycle. Lets say they "prefer" sleep....and lets not forget to mention that the majority of stretch happens when lights are off. Aside from shaving $$ from the electric bill, a shortened light cycle has no more affect on those plants than a 24 hr light cycle.
 

HydroRed

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Plants do need sleep

17/on/7 off works for me and my plants and bud always gets great results . I’m good on that 24/0 , did it for a few years and it was def “ no big improvement’ I’ll take the redution on my electric bill and let my plants sleep ;) I mean shoot most of the time they grow so fast j have to keep em in 1 gal’s before my final and top em daily cause they want to grow like a wild fire.
Not trying to argue or be combative, but those links dont prove or dispell anything other than reduction of cost on electricity when grown indoors...which is exactly what I stated in my post.

The RoyalQueenSeeds link you posted even states exactly what I said. Theres no gain to a shorter veg light cycle other than electricity savings. They claim they experienced some differing results in regards to cuttings, but thats just their own personal experience -nothing scientific. Directly quoted from that link:

VEGETATIVE GROWTH: 18-6 OR 24-0?


Photoperiod cannabis strains can essentially be kept in vegetative growth indefinitely, so long as they receive 14+ hours of light per day. The debate on what is the optimal light-dark schedule for vegging cannabis rages on. That being said, most indoor growers will agree that somewhere between 18–24 hours per day is perfect. Outdoor growers get started in spring/summer to make the most of the long days too.


The 24-0 schedule might speed up the vegetative growth process some. The downside is the higher power bills. 18-6 is more common because it’s a closer match for long summer days and a little cheaper. Higher success rates with cuttings on an 18-6 light-dark cycle than those receiving 24-0 is the only substantial difference we have discovered from our own experiments.


The Zambeza link you provided doesnt even mention growing in vegative growth lol. It talks about outdoor, the conversion to flower and why lighting is important @ 12 hrs...to induce flower. I believe we are already privy to this info.

The other links are just stating what we have already agreed on....-plants can have a sleep cycle if you allow them.
Doesnt mean they need them or are necessary was all I was getting at in all of this. When it comes to reveg I have found that 18/6 dont come close to the amount of results I get from 24/0 and my plants also dont stretch like crazy in veg like they do when a dark period is introduced like 18/6. This is relatively important to someone like me who houses mothers for many years on end. I dont doubt your plants and flowers do well for you and that you have a great system down for your garden. I just dont believe there is any gains to be had with 18/6 other than a savings on your light bill and your links pretty much concur what I mention(ed).
 

BH

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what’s far deep red For eh? That that was for presenting and brining the tones of sunset and putting the plants a sleep quicker? Hmm? wow so many people interested in that and biz and that must mean nothing ?

and point of not using more light is the “improvement “ of that extra 180+ hours from a room, than another 30+ hours from a flower, I’m good ;) pays for another cycle almost or if I had another room that’s quite a bit eh

ive done enough compares to know enough that 18/6 when thats not even worth it when most plants don’t even care. If you give a plant a great enviroment with Co2 , great lights for its needs ( which at veg they don’t even need nowhere nears as much vs flower ) and proper environment and proper airflow During that lights on. sure As hell show on my end good results , if not I think your doing something wrong and is not that extra hours, I’m good on that one

they all explained theres no reason to use unnatural amounts of light beyond 18/6!
 

jaguarlax

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those are the 12 board units, right? wanna send me a couple when you're done assembling? i'll test em out for ya ;)

Erm 6 panels per driver... xlg-240 - H - AB


If my calculations are correct

4 drivers x 24 panels with 96 LED per strip = :mariofireball:
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@coste to answer your question... maybe the 12 board you are seeing x2??? I am not sure he has so many different options on the ebay store...
 
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